A 501 ? Thinking that line capacity is not an issue anymore with braid and with all the upgrades you can do to a 500/501
It seems that I can't find work for my 112h red, I sometimes I forget that I have one ::)
Marc..
The larger OD of the spool gives you slightly more line per revolution. My 112H's are all 501 width.
I have a couple of 112H reels and love them. Always wanted a narrow one but $$$$ has held me back. I really like my 501 and 506 reels also. Both great reels , through the 112H is a more handsome reel imo... of course the Jigmasters have that whole quick change spool thing :)
Interesting, I know the line retrieve is a bit higher 29" vs 27" for the 501, but if you add a 5:1 gear ration to the 501, I guess it would surpass the 112h in that department too
Marc..
It's really a stronger framed reel. Will resist twisting more than a Jigmaster but it has its cost for the added strength...it's called weight.
Quote from: Bryan Young on August 21, 2014, 06:48:06 AM
It's really a stronger framed reel. Will resist twisting more than a Jigmaster but it has its cost for the added strength...it's called weight.
But if you add a Tiburon frame to the Jigmaster. Like, I'm talking about a fully loaded jigmaster, is there a need for a 112h?
Marc..
Even with a tib frame, the removeable sideplate securement is still not the same as sidepates being screwed together.
If you put 5:1 gears in the 112H the retrieval advantage is still there. The 112H is the width of a 99 and so it is easier to lay line level. I like the drag range advantage. With the same pressure on the drag stack a 112H will have less drag at the line than the 500 when both spools are full. Because the 112H is more narrow it's spool empties faster and therefore ramps it's drag up faster. This is important if you are running high drag settings on a built reel.
With Alan Cs. 5:1 gears, the 500 with a full spool can handle lots of drag but the pinion will shred in a full 112H. If a fish were to spool a 112H that had a lower original drag setting the 112H would have the same drag as a 500 once the spool empties to the diameter of a full 500. In my way of thinking, unless you have hooked into a freight train, a fish will slow its run down before it has spooled a 112H especially with the increased drag. At least that is a theory I would like the opportunity to put to the test.
Ron
Quote from: Bryan Young on August 21, 2014, 07:18:22 AM
Even with a tib frame, the removeable sideplate securement is still not the same as sidepates being screwed together.
Ho Yah non exploding reels!!
Ron
You guys make a lot of sense
Thanks, Marc..
Quote from: Marcq on August 21, 2014, 07:30:42 AM
You guys make a lot of sense
Thanks, Marc..
You might be better off with the 501, there are many custom parts available for that reel
Quote from: Bryan Young on August 21, 2014, 07:18:22 AM
Even with a tib frame, the removeable sideplate securement is still not the same as sidepates being screwed together.
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You could make that side-plate just as strong if you wanted to, the parts are available to do so. Personally, I never had any issues with the removable plates.
Sal,
Out of interest, what parts are needed to strengthen the sideplate?
Mike.
Here you go Mike:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/1-500S.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/1-500S.aspx)
Scotts is out of them, I wouldn't be surprised if Ron grabbed them all ;D, but you should still be able to find them, if you look around.
I did not hunt them down, simply because I believe the 501 plates are just fine, I caught a nice size shark with one of those and they never blew up, that was good enough for me.
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Quote from: Marcq on August 21, 2014, 06:09:59 AM
Interesting, I know the line retrieve is a bit higher 29" vs 27" for the 501, but if you add a 5:1 gear ration to the 501, I guess it would surpass the 112h in that department too
Marc..
The same gears can be put into a 112H.
I haven't installed it yet, but I bought Tiburon's T3BFSK Extra-Wide Topless Frame & Spool Kit for my 112H. They call it the "Bluefin Special", and I can't wait to try it out. :)
~A~
I have a wide Newel kit I can't figure out what to do with, all of my 112H reels are now narrow.
Lee, I'm curious what kind of fish are you targeting with those narrow 112h reels .
Lee,
Is your kit a Blue Fin or a Tuna special? You have my second favorite thing in the world (the first being YTS kits.)
Ron
Lee, if I didn't have tiburon frames on all my 112h's I would have bought it from you. By the way do you have any arms available? Back to subject I believe the 112h is a very strong reel, I catch 4 -6 foot alligator gar all the time with mine.
Quote from: CooldadE on August 21, 2014, 03:40:40 PM
Lee, I'm curious what kind of fish are you targeting with those narrow 112h reels .
Mid depth bottom fish and albacore trolling.
It's the Tuna Special and as of now it isn't for sale.
I've built 6 112H reels lately thanks to Bryan's drag washers. They will put out 25 lbs. of drag all day with more if needed. I have pulled 35lbs of smooth drag on one of them. The Kayak guys around here love them.
I personally like the size, feel, and looks of the 112H.
Quote from: handi2 on August 21, 2014, 10:28:07 PM
I've built 6 112H reels lately thanks to Bryan's drag washers. They will put out 25 lbs. of drag all day with more if needed. I have pulled 35lbs of smooth drag on one of them. The Kayak guys around here love them.
I personally like the size, feel, and looks of the 112H.
Not arguing with you Keith or anything like that, the most I got with a jigmaster was 24lbs using Bryan's kits. Holding drag is a different story.
I get around 30lbs with my 4/0 tank , but no way close with a jigmaster and I wouldn't want to :-\. If you are getting 35lbs, please share how you're doing it. Btw, with parts availability, I still say the jigmaster is a better reel, but that's just me.
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 21, 2014, 12:26:11 PM
Here you go Mike:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/1-500S.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/1-500S.aspx)
Scotts is out of them, I wouldn't be surprised if Ron grabbed them all ;D, but you should still be able to find them, if you look around.
I did not hunt them down, simply because I believe the 501 plates are just fine, I caught a nice size shark with one of those and they never blew up, that was good enough for me.
Thanks Sal,
I was just interested, for what I will be using my reel for it will certainly be strong enough as is.
Mike.