(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/r-n-tms/58109EF6-B244-4B8C-9F07-CDB4D3F50D4D_zpsetih9z6y.jpg) (http://s281.photobucket.com/user/r-n-tms/media/58109EF6-B244-4B8C-9F07-CDB4D3F50D4D_zpsetih9z6y.jpg.html)
The reel on the far left is a 155 with a plastic spool
I took it apart last night. It has steel gears
In it piñon and main gear. About what year
Would it be. I am putting new drag washers
In it and a good cleaning.
Thanks michael
That reel was made for a long time Michael. Around 1940 until 2003 when it was discontinued. Sal would be the expert on Dating this. It does look older with that Amber Handle. I'll guess late fifty's.
I just acquired this neat little 151; it has the lighthouse tail plate, the pointy handle knob, and a brown mottled spool which I haven't seen before. I haven't started fussing/cleaning/polishing yet, although it's in really nice condition and doesn't need much. Would anyone be willing to guesstimate its approximate vintage? 50s? 60s?
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/P1000505_zpsd7a2bd25.jpg)
Another thing I've been puzzling over: I'm aware that tightly winding mono onto a plastic spool can crush it like an eggshell because of mono's considerable stretch, but does the same hold true for non-stretchy braid?
Inquiring minds want to know! Thanks... :)
~A~
Hello Michael
Here is a shot of my 155. A close friend left it to me. I know that this reel is from the mice to late 60's. I did the CF drags and update to an aluminum spool.
Hope this helps,
Ray
Aiala,
That reel is in great shape. I would replace the spool with a metal one at minimum. Aluminum being Ideal. That plastic spool will just lead to trouble if you are going to fish it. As far as guessing the age, I'll let the pros handle that. ;)
Quote from: Aiala on February 03, 2015, 07:30:01 PM.....Another thing I've been puzzling over: I'm aware that tightly winding mono onto a plastic spool can crush it like an eggshell because of mono's considerable stretch, but does the same hold true for
Yes, when I went back to Dacron line I quit warping spools (not plastic) when fishing for Pacific halibut.
One of my 155's in my collection and I think the Monofil 25 is very similar and parts are interchangeable .
(http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad223/mattman1965/DSCF1056_zps17eb2653.jpg) (http://s938.photobucket.com/user/mattman1965/media/DSCF1056_zps17eb2653.jpg.html)
I have a couple of 155, but mine have been converted to narrows. I fished these last year and love them and so do some of my buddies.
These parts are all spoken for, Scotts still has the spools and stand, but I'm not sure how long they will last.
The steel gears will be tough to find, but usually the older ones are still in great shape, these are tough little reels.
You could actually make any of these reels narrow with no issues, not as you would have if they were 500's.
In the back I'm showing the 180- 155 and the 26, any would do.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/011_5.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/011_5.jpg.html)
Sal
You made me lick my monitor! Nice.
Just a couple. :D
Aiala, I'm sure you know that your spool is a collector's item. I wouldn't fish with it for fear of cracking it. :o
Excellent Point George! I would just display it and buy another one. ;D
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 04, 2015, 11:47:04 PM
I have a couple of 155, but mine have been converted to narrows........
I didn't know this was possible. I have 2 155s that I use all the time for porgys and seabass inshore. I'd love to make one a narrow. No need for all that capacity when I use braid to catch porgys in 40ft of water.
I checked Scotts but wasn't able to find anything but the standard 155 parts. If anyone could point me in the direction of the correct conversion parts, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
Matt
I wasn't going to ask Matt, just because I haven't done this yet. I'm Sure Sal will elaborate. ;)
I want to know too. ;D
I haven't done this mod yet but I think it involves three things 1 spool 29L-100 1 stand 30-180s and posts X4 37-180 ???
Sal can you confirm .The parts are listed under 180 Baymaster .
Thanks,
Matt
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 04, 2015, 11:47:04 PM
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sal, sal, sal, we've gotta talk........ ;D
Quote from: alantani on February 05, 2015, 10:29:21 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 04, 2015, 11:47:04 PM
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sal, sal, sal, we've gotta talk........ ;D
:D
As stated above, I only have a couple and love them, these are all spoken for.
I had another dozen or so, those I gave to members here and there. Some even flew to the other side of the pond ;D
With that said, I'm not showing my 100's ;D
ok, so i got off work at 1am, i got home at 2am and i'm enjoying a scotch at 3am. that's why i'm up. what's your excuse? ;D
I've been getting up at 4:30 AM for the past 25-30 years...no alarm clock ;D.
You're forgetting you're 3 hours back. ;D
Quote from: SacFly on February 05, 2015, 07:12:35 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 04, 2015, 11:47:04 PM
I have a couple of 155, but mine have been converted to narrows........
I didn't know this was possible. I have 2 155s that I use all the time for porgys and seabass inshore. I'd love to make one a narrow. No need for all that capacity when I use braid to catch porgys in 40ft of water.
I checked Scotts but wasn't able to find anything but the standard 155 parts. If anyone could point me in the direction of the correct conversion parts, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
Matt
Matt, you could make your 155 reels a narrow by using a 29L-100 spool, 30-49 stand and 37-180 frame posts.
About the frame posts, I believe Black Pearl is working on the stainless steel spacer bars as the 501, but those will need to be a little different to keep the weight down. I will give him my suggestion when the time comes, I'm thinking a shape similar to a Bow Tie or larger holes.
These are already narrow: Surfmaster 100, Baymaster 180,185 &190 ( The 185 & 190 are knuckle busters, no star. The 190 would be the older ones, the newer are taller as the 85) and the Monofil 27. Keep in mind these will not have the aluminum spool.
Most of all others with the same size plate can be converted to narrow, by using the parts mentioned above.
Sal
Quote from: Mattman NZ on February 05, 2015, 09:27:25 AM
I haven't done this mod yet but I think it involves three things 1 spool 29L-100 1 stand 30-180s and posts X4 37-180 ???
Sal can you confirm .The parts are listed under 180 Baymaster .
Thanks,
Matt
Sorry Matt, I just noticed that you've already answered the other Matt, maybe that's why i got confused ;D.
Yes you are correct, you could use the30-180s stand, but the 30-49 would be a better choice and you'll save 3-4 dollars.
Thanks!
Sal
I have a feeling that Mo at Scott's is going to run out of spools for these soon, get'em while they're hot ;D...maybe i'll grab a couple of more :-\.
Quote from: Aiala on February 03, 2015, 07:30:01 PM
I just acquired this neat little 151; it has the lighthouse tail plate, the pointy handle knob, and a brown mottled spool which I haven't seen before. I haven't started fussing/cleaning/polishing yet, although it's in really nice condition and doesn't need much. Would anyone be willing to guesstimate its approximate vintage? 50s? 60s?
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/P1000505_zpsd7a2bd25.jpg)
Another thing I've been puzzling over: I'm aware that tightly winding mono onto a plastic spool can crush it like an eggshell because of mono's considerable stretch, but does the same hold true for non-stretchy braid?
Inquiring minds want to know! Thanks... :)
~A~
Aiala.
You said your reel is a #
151 . I think the guys missed that
"1" after the
"15" . If they saw a photo of the head plate they would have seen that it does not have a star drag. The #151 is a difficult reel to find and in the condition yours is in the difficulty doubles again. They were made 1940-1942 & 1946 .
Definitely a collectors reel . From an anglers view - A star drag would be preferable so not many were bought . For that reason and a short production time span , that is what makes them a collectable. Nice find.
Ray
Quote from: alantani on February 05, 2015, 10:55:18 AM
ok, so i got off work at 1am, i got home at 2am and i'm enjoying a scotch at 3am. that's why i'm up. what's your excuse? ;D
Big front passing through and my legs are killing me, tried to sleep but gave up at 03:30.
Quote from: Superhook on February 05, 2015, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: Aiala on February 03, 2015, 07:30:01 PM
I just acquired this neat little 151; it has the lighthouse tail plate, the pointy handle knob, and a brown mottled spool which I haven't seen before. I haven't started fussing/cleaning/polishing yet, although it's in really nice condition and doesn't need much. Would anyone be willing to guesstimate its approximate vintage? 50s? 60s?
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/P1000505_zpsd7a2bd25.jpg)
Another thing I've been puzzling over: I'm aware that tightly winding mono onto a plastic spool can crush it like an eggshell because of mono's considerable stretch, but does the same hold true for non-stretchy braid?
Inquiring minds want to know! Thanks... :)
~A~
Aiala.
You said your reel is a #151 . I think the guys missed that "1" after the "15" . If they saw a photo of the head plate they would have seen that it does not have a star drag. The #151 is a difficult reel to find and in the condition yours is in the difficulty doubles again. They were made 1940-1942 & 1946 .
Definitely a collectors reel . From an anglers view - A star drag would be preferable so not many were bought . For that reason and a short production time span , that is what makes them a collectable. Nice find.
Ray
Ray, I don't believe the reel has the correct parts, usually the stand is not tapered with that type of handle knob, but I'm not as knowledgeable as you guy :-\.
Still, if that was the case, I would still put that reel on a shelf, I really like that color combination.
Gorgeous reel Aiala ;).
Sal,
Good pick up. It has been modernized . Looks like a part# on the tail plate bearing and the handle blade has a #24 .... If the Head plate has the #151 logo everything else can be corrected.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Penn-SURFMASTER-150-Conventional-Reel-/231446775893?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35e34d8855
This is the correct era #150 for the donor parts but you need a better one.
Ray
Uh, fellas, I'm afriad my dyselxic tendencies have once again reared their ugly haed; I wrote "151" when I meant "155". :P There is a star drag, and in fact I think it's a pretty ordinary little reel, except I was curious whether that mottled spool meant it was older than most, or something. I'd like to fish with it at some point (I'm not a shelf display collector) but I need to follow Mr. Shark's suggestion and upgrade to an aluminum spool.
In any event, I do apologize for causing unnecessary confusion. ::)
~A~
Aiala, I've been seeing you post a couple nice little and big reels on here lately. I believe you have a nice quiver of Penn's. And best of all your gonna fish them!! My kinda gal. BTW, I like the spool on this one but your better off with the alum if your gonna fish it. Like Daron said. Good luck
Bob
Quote from: Aiala on February 05, 2015, 03:16:01 PM
Uh, fellas, I'm afriad my dyselxic tendencies have once again reared their ugly haed; I wrote "151" when I meant "155". :P There is a star drag, and in fact I think it's a pretty ordinary little reel, except I was curious whether that mottled spool meant it was older than most, or something. I'd like to fish with it at some point (I'm not a shelf display collector) but I need to follow Mr. Shark's suggestion and upgrade to an aluminum spool.
In any event, I do apologize for causing unnecessary confusion. ::)
~A~
No need to apologize Aiala, I knew you meant 155 all along, still with mismatched parts though ;D, but that doesn't really matter if you're going to fish it.
Your aluminum spool is on its way.
Sal
QuoteI just acquired this neat little 151; it has the lighthouse tail plate, the pointy handle knob, and a brown mottled spool which I haven't seen before. I haven't started fussing/cleaning/polishing yet, although it's in really nice condition and doesn't need much. Would anyone be willing to guesstimate its approximate vintage? 50s? 60s?
Just one number off and you send the nutty professor historians into a quest :o. I searched my catalogs and found the 1940 Model 151 reference:
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/PENN%20SURFMASTER/Figure1741013x784_zps4c85b91d.jpg)just so you knew Ray and I were not talking through our silly hats ??? and then I went into my picture files and found a picture of a 151 and its sister, the 201 sitting peacefully next to each other:
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/PENN%20SURFMASTER/Figure177640x480_zps108a3270.jpg) and then I realized that if I was as observant as Sal, I would have picked up on the fact that the head plate on your reel does not have the quick change feature of a Model 151 Surfmaster and you simply typed a "1" instead of a "5".
Simply amazing what one number off can do :o.
On another note, The Model 151 is a difficult reel to find, so if you come across one, no matter what the condition, it is a keeper, as is the Model 201. These models were not made after WW II.
Mitch, Sal, Alan(s), Mike(s), Dom(s), Daron, Ono, Randy, Lee, Keith, Wai, Tim, Dwight, in fact the entire AT crew, I know I've said it before, but y'all are the kindest, most generous bunch of guys... ever. I just wish more womenfolk would come here, because if they did, it'd renew their faith that there are, indeed, plenty of old-fashioned true gentlemen left in this hurried modern world of ours. (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Love/hello-065.gif)
~A~
You are also part of the crew Aiala.
"A"
Now you made me Blush
Mike
Aiala, we wish more women came on here to explain to our wives, significant others, girlfriends, etc. that what we do is perfectly normal. ::)
You're feminine touch is a pleasure and breath of fresh air with all this testosterone floating around here. ;D
PS-Change out that handle if you're gonna fish it... they are uncomfortable due to the sharp point they come to.
Enjoy your 155,
Dom
Well, I'll be darned, I learned something today. I've never heard of the 151 and 201 until now. I also thought her 151 was a typo.
Some of my first Penns were 155's. They were newer models with plain tailplates. I donated two to a good cause and, because I'm narrow minded, I converted the remaining one to the 180 width.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/156%20%20%201.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/156%20%20%201.jpg.html)
Note "156" logo , no star drag and stippled head plate .
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/156%20%202.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/156%20%202.jpg.html)
No stamping on foot.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/kingfisher57/156%20%203.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/kingfisher57/media/156%20%203.jpg.html)
Stippled tail plate , at top above graphics.
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Mike posted the photos of the #151 & #201 so the reel above is a #156. Which is really a #155 without the star drag. Same time frame as the #151.
Ray and Mike, you guys are amazing.
The 151,156 and 201 are not close to impossible to find, those are impossible to find.
Hearing about it is one thing, but to actually being able to see it is another. Thanks for sharing.
Sal
Sal ,
Those three reels are fairly difficult to find. I think it makes it easier to find when you've seen one rather than searching from a description only .The boxes are near enough to impossible . I have only ever seen one of the three boxes. You can add the #170 to this trio of no-drag ,hard to find , almost unknown bunch.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12512.0 Mike posted the #170 here.
Ray
Nice Model 156 Ray, I especially like the rope that it is spooled up with..................... ;) Is that #12 Cuttyhunk?
I have noticed that these non-star drag models are not coming up for sale as often as they did in the past, say 10 years ago. I feel they may be a bit of hoarding going on with some collectors, (you and I are not included in that bunch of hoarders, of course :-\)
Of the group mentioned, I feel the Model 170 is the toughest find.
I have to agree, mike. That 170 is pretty elusive ...I've been hunting that reel for a bit now.
You'll know when I get one. I'll have a party when I get one. ;D
You've got some collection, Ray. Very impressive!
Love these rare birds,
Dom
The older Penn sideplates are becoming tougher to find in any condition.
While getting back to my Penn rebuild project to hopefully put around 50 old Penns back in service -- I got down to the bottom of some of the bins while searching for other plates.
These are 95% NOS -- I keep the used plates separate.
A few interesting ones -- 130, 85, 78, 80, 185, 350, 285, 9, 27, 165, 79, 77, 109, 250, 25, 180, 200, 14.
I just picked out 1 or 2 examples of each for pics -- but I am curious about the last set -- 14 Atlantic.
Cannot find much about this reel in Mike's book.
Just wondering about any further information from Michael, Ray, or others -- about this old 14?
Thanks,
Fred
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/100_3096_zps0d96a988.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/100_3096_zps0d96a988.jpg.html)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/100_3097_zps8418bd19.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/100_3097_zps8418bd19.jpg.html)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/100_3098_zps55418e34.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/100_3098_zps55418e34.jpg.html)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/100_3099_zps1765a650.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/100_3099_zps1765a650.jpg.html)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/4D5ADD4E-4320-4D78-9408-5675643926A8_zpsxjcjpwki.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/4D5ADD4E-4320-4D78-9408-5675643926A8_zpsxjcjpwki.jpg.html)
Fred,
Pages 84,85 & 86 of Mike's book is about the #14 & #15 reels. Basic cheap reels from 1939 and on. Penn made lots of these with different logos for the trade shops. Page #86 has 17 of the 23 moulds used in making these side plates for these trade reels.
Ray
Thanks, Ray!
Found it...
Best,
Fred
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That's enough awesome for one day, haha! That 156 is gorgeous.
QuoteI just picked out 1 or 2 examples of each for pics -- but I am curious about the last set -- 14 Atlantic.
Cannot find much about this reel in Mike's book.
Fred,
The Penn 14 was introduced in 1939 and stayed the Penn Model 14 up until before the war. After the war, Penn did return the Penn Model 14 to production and added the "Atlantic" name to the reel. You can see that in the Summaries in the back of the book on page 248. As a collecting aid, the Summaries have become one of my favorite ways of getting a quick answer to history questions like when was a reel model introduced, discontinued, etc.
Thanks, Mike --
Best,
Fred
As I mentioned above, most of these reels could be narrowed.
My buddy Ted usually likes to keep his reels as original as possible, but some how I changed his mind on this beautiful 25 ;D. enjoy it! Sal
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/IMG_20150206_214747564%20teds%20gray.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/IMG_20150206_214747564%20teds%20gray.jpg.html)
It's all your fault Sal....Factory original is a broad definition when all the parts to narrow the reel came from same era, so I'm sticking with all original with a little bit 'o Italian influence. ;D
The easiest way to narrow this reel would have been to use a 180 or a 27, but I wanted a clamp seat and the 180 saltwater stand isn't clamp capable. So I used a 49 seat, which in turn led me to use 49 frame posts. These frame posts are about double the diameter of the 180 posts, which I believe makes it beefier. Then I had to buy a separate spool.....all of which made narrowing this grey reel a labor of love $$$. Like I already said, the easy way is to use a 180 or 27 as a donor reel, then you wont have to use parts off 2-3 reels to make 1.
Here's my old-time 155, all refurbished and refreshed... vintage handle courtesy of Alan T (Hail to the Chief!), perfect aluminum spool courtesy of Alto Mare (thanks a bunch, Sal!), Cal greased CF drags, plus lots of obsessive fussing and cleaning by me (doesn't the tail plate look nice?):
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/P1000517_zpsdb7e6432.jpg)
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/P1000518_zps4cd71b7f.jpg)
Now all I need to do is decide what lb test mono to use. I know Penn rates it at 250 yds of 30, but I'm more inclined to try 25, 20, or even 17; what d'you think?
SOA, here we come! :D
~A~
Nice transformation Aiala, that table top doesn't look too bad either. Lots of luck with that baby ;).
Sal
Looks Great Aiala! Nice Job. ;)
Quote from: alantani on February 05, 2015, 10:29:21 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 04, 2015, 11:47:04 PM
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sal, sal, sal, we've gotta talk........ ;D
I thought I was sick ;D Alan, I think he's too far gone for talkin'
I hear ya Tim. I picked up a couple of those spools and stands before He bought them all! ;D
Aiala, Nice job on the face lift. Maybe its my eyes, maybe its my computer, but can you take a photo of the head plate straight on? It doesn't look like stippling and it doesn't look smooth to me... what is it?
Thanks and may you be graced with a fish of a lifetime on that beauty.
As for you, Ted. That reel came out sweet! Looks like a war made reel with the grey plates... beef up the internals and it'll be a mini-tank. ;D
Thanks for sharing,
Dom
Quote from: broadway on February 09, 2015, 12:37:39 AM
Aiala, Nice job on the face lift. Maybe its my eyes, maybe its my computer, but can you take a photo of the head plate straight on? It doesn't look like stippling and it doesn't look smooth to me... what is it? Dom
Thanks, Dom! ;D Your wish is my command... here:
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/P1000525_zps5813116e.jpg)
Is there anything unusual about the head plate? I didn't think so, but what do I know? ::)
~
A~
Beautiful reel, Ted.
Aiala, your reel cleaned up nicely. I'm glad you decided not to risk ruining that very nice original mottled brown plastic spool.
Aiala,
The Model 155 came out fine. It will make a great fishing reel.
The head plate and tail plate are pretty standard for the 1940's and 50's.
I have a soft spot for the Model 155. It was my first fishing reel. I bought it in the 1950's for $5.00, used it for 50 years and then sold it for $10.00. Wish I could that with my cars............... ;D
Thanks Aiala! Nope, it's standard. it just looked different from the angle on the first photos.
Can't wait to see the big one you get with your shiny new tool.
Have fun,
Dom
Quote
Is there anything unusual about the head plate? I didn't think so, but what do I know? Roll Eyes
~A~
Aiala,
I found mine. It is a 1950 model, all original, pre-part numbers reel. It is a pretty close match to yours, even with the mottled spool. The spool is a light weight spool designed for casting and bay fishing with old linen lines.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Beachmaster%20155/1950PennBeachmasterModel155--NOSreelonly034676x507_zps08a69722.jpg)
No part numbers on spool bearing or handle screw. Standard stippled head plate.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Beachmaster%20155/1950PennBeachmasterModel155--NOSreelonly030676x507_zpsd87c5dc2.jpg)
Old style tail plate bearing with only the word "Oil" on it and old picture plate.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Beachmaster%20155/1950PennBeachmasterModel155--NOSreelonly028676x507_zps94b05428.jpg)
No stampings at all on the bottom of the stand.
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the classic mottled spool. I do not believe these spools were used for too long a time. Most old Model 155 have a black plastic spool. I feel the old black spools were a little heavier than these mottled versions. These broke easier than the black ones.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Beachmaster%20155/1950PennBeachmasterModel155--NOSreelonly003676x507_zps2e1aa6aa.jpg)
No part numbers on the reverse side of the handle or the star wheel.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Beachmaster%20155/1950PennBeachmasterModel155--NOSreelonly005676x507_zpsfca071ef.jpg)
No part numbers on the inside of the trim rings.
This one sits on a shelf. Yours is ready for duty. Either way, they are both classics.
Too cool, that spool is awesome.
I am following Aiala's lead on this. Since she showed her 155, I pretty much had a carbon copy, only in a much poorer condition. I put the narrow spool on it and did the same.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2817_zps44b35128.jpg)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2818_zpsfae0326c.jpg)
I used the McMaster Carr screws on this one.
She is rough, but I will fish her just the same. ;)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2819_zps876b0657.jpg)
After seeing the reels belonging to Aiala and Mike with the brown and black mottled spools, I've decided to show my 165. It's one of the knucklebusters from the Beachmaster family.
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/rumbum01/P1010576_zps2a891646.jpg)
I think it is all original since no numbers are stamped on any part. I cleaned it up but decided not to replace the pitted parts, believing it will retain more collector's value. When did Penn start stamping numbers on the parts?
BTW Daron, even though your narrow 155 is pitted, I'm sure it is only cosmetic. Knowing you, the insides are well maintained.
Daron, slowly you're doing every reels that Penn ever made, I know you must be running out of room, don't ask me how I know ;D.
I might need to get down there and build you a custom cabinet ;D. Love those narrows.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 16, 2015, 03:17:53 AM
I am following Aiala's lead on this. Since she showed her 155, I pretty much had a carbon copy, only in a much poorer condition. I put the narrow spool on it and did the same.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2817_zps44b35128.jpg)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2818_zpsfae0326c.jpg)
I used the McMaster Carr screws on this one.
She is rough, but I will fish her just the same. ;)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2819_zps876b0657.jpg)
Beautiful work! Im glad you are loving the SS screws as much as I am!
Thanks Guys,
Sal, I'm just learning from you guys. I've had that old 155 sitting around forever. Pitted posts and rings.
After seeing what can be done to it. I jumped at the chance. ;D
I don't know about that, at the rate you're going, we'll be learning from you ;).
Ron got me started on these smaller reels a year ago, I was never interested. I used a few this past year and really enjoy them. Don't let the small gears fool you. Maybe the small diameter has something to do with it :-\, these tiny reels are tough.
I am making a few for some friends.
Sal,
I'm just trying to give as much as I take. ;D I Caught on quick to that spool mod. I think the possibilities here are endless on these.
That's what makes this site one of the best around, we all learn from each other.
Other than weight is there any advantages the 155 has over a 200?
QuoteOther than weight is there any advantages the 155 has over a 200?
Yes, the 155 is about half the price of the 200........ ;)
D'oh!
I have several 100s, a few 150s and 2 200s now and I'm trying to justify a 155 that I will use some of my spare 100 parts on to make a narrow 155.
Lee,
The 29L-100 spool and 30-49 stand with some 100 posts is all it takes.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 16, 2015, 08:05:42 AM
Lee,
The 29L-100 spool and 30-49 stand with some 100 posts is all it takes.
Yup, and I have them.
This has turned into a mix and match thread. It is a testament to the parts interchangeability of modern products. It was not always like that.
Here's one.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Senators/DSC01363816x612_zpsd10a416c.jpg)
What are they?
Quote from: Keta on February 16, 2015, 06:42:41 AM
Other than weight is there any advantages the 155 has over a 200?
The only advantage I see between my reels is the 200 has the quick-change spool feature. My 200 also has the smaller -155 drag washers so, no drag advantage there. I've since narrowed my 155 and 200 to the 180/100 width. With all of the other reels I have, I wouldn't rush out and buy a 155 unless I had some strange compelling desire to have one. ::)
Quote from: Penn Chronology on February 16, 2015, 04:45:32 PM
This has turned into a mix and match thread. It is a testament to the parts interchangeability of modern products. It was not always like that.
Here's one.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Senators/DSC01363816x612_zpsd10a416c.jpg)
What are they?
I think a widened 4/0 and a narrowed Long Beach 68. You swapped spools and spacer bars, perhaps? Penn's parts interchangeability is a wonderful thing.
I did something similar when I narrowed a black 4/0 by using a Newell YTS reelfoot and Long Beach 66 spool (what we sometimes call a grouper special). I realize this has probably been done before, but I'd never seen or read of someone else doing it.
QuoteI think a widened 4/0 and a narrowed Long Beach 68. You swapped spools and spacer bars, perhaps? Penn's parts interchangeability is a wonderful thing.
Good eye, you are correct about the spools and spacer bars but it is the stand swap that makes this interchange really happen. You have to use the 113HLW stand on the 4/O plates and a 200 stand on the Penn 68 plates. Fun stuff! :D
Now if only we can only figure out how to disassemble spools without destroying things and make them narrower. For starters, I would like to have a "49" width Long Beach.
Quote from: George4741 on February 16, 2015, 04:51:48 PM
Quote from: Keta on February 16, 2015, 06:42:41 AM
Other than weight is there any advantages the 155 has over a 200?
The only advantage I see between my reels is the 200 has the quick-change spool feature. My 200 also has the smaller -155 drag washers so, no drag advantage there. I've since narrowed my 155 and 200 to the 180/100 width. With all of the other reels I have, I wouldn't rush out and buy a 155 unless I had some strange compelling desire to have one. ::)
Quote from: Penn Chronology on February 16, 2015, 04:45:32 PM
This has turned into a mix and match thread. It is a testament to the parts interchangeability of modern products. It was not always like that.
Here's one.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Senators/DSC01363816x612_zpsd10a416c.jpg)
What are they?
I think a widened 4/0 and a narrowed Long Beach 68. You swapped spools and spacer bars, perhaps? Penn's parts interchangeability is a wonderful thing.
I did something similar when I narrowed a black 4/0 by using a Newell YTS reelfoot and Long Beach 66 spool (what we sometimes call a grouper special). I realize this has probably been done before, but I'd never seen or read of someone else doing it.
You must have a unique reel George, All my Surfmasters have the 5-60 gear :-\
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 16, 2015, 05:35:06 PM
You must have a unique reel George, All my Surfmasters have the 5-60 gear :-\
When ordering Surfmaster 200 parts on the MysticParts website, there is a design change that describes my reel with the 5-155 main gear and drag washers. It may not be a common reel but it's not unique. I showed it on another thread several years ago. The sideplate is also different from yours, as the space for the gears is only large enough for the -155 main gear. A 5-60 gear won't fit.
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Yes George, I remember now. I still say there aren't many of those around, yours might still be unique ;D
I just saw a 155 go for $51 dollars on the big auction site. The Insanity! :o
Ouch! Today I got a Monofil 25 for 1/2 that including shipping, I promptly narrowed it.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 27, 2015, 01:44:02 AM
I just saw a 155 go for $51 dollars on the big auction site. The Insanity! :o
Small price to pay, if you know what you're getting. $51 isn't much for a reel that will outlast you ;).
Very true Sal,
I've just never seen one go that high that was on my watch list. It was new.
I have a nib 180 coming I gave about $25 for.
Must be the Alto Mare and Shark Hunter Effect. ;)
i had forgot that i started this thread.Looks like it turned out to have some good info.I have a 160 that i love thinking about makking my 155s into 160s can this be done?
Yes, it can be done. You can also make it a 501 width reel by using a 30-49 stand, 29L-100 spool and 37-180 frame posts. I just did this to a Monofil 25.
Quotei had forgot that i started this thread.Looks like it turned out to have some good info.I have a 160 that i love thinking about makking my 155s into 160s can this be done?
Yes, to make your 155 into a 160, you need a Penn Surfmaster 150 spool, a Long Beach 65 stand and posts.
Quote from: Keta on February 27, 2015, 03:13:14 PM
Yes, it can be done. You can also make it a 501 width reel by using a 30-49 stand, 29L-100 spool and 37-180 frame posts. I just did this to a Monofil 25.
Lee, the 49 has better frame posts. They are twice the diameter of the 180 posts and give the reel a beefier look.
Won't a long beach 66 stand work as well that way you can have a rod clamp and a beefier reel stand
QuoteWon't a long beach 66 stand work as well that way you can have a rod clamp and a beefier reel stand
Yes it will and that would give you a stronger base.
Thanks everbody great info as always.
Quote from: Max Doubt on February 27, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Lee, the 49 has better frame posts. They are twice the diameter of the 180 posts and give the reel a beefier look.
I used the 37-49 posts from one of my 349 upgrades but thought they were 37-180's.
I'm getting 13-1/2 pounds out of my similar to 155 Monofil 25 (narrowed), using .020# metal keyed washers, .020" CF washers and stock eared washers (.035").
Is there any real difference between the 155 and 25? I don't see any.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Reels/DSCN1566_zpspgyy5kr6.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Reels/DSCN1566_zpspgyy5kr6.jpg.html)
According to Penn, the Monofil series, as Penn built them, had tighter fitting spools for use with the new monofilament lighter lines. Here is the 1954 / 55 introduction catalog page for the Monofil series:
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Even though parts are interchangeable with other reels, according to Penn, these reels are built to higher standards, at least in 1954.
Very interesting Mike, thanks!
Sal
I have been using my 1/0 for light tackle fishing 20-25#, but I may venture into trying onf of these monofils out. Great info mike!
QuoteVery interesting Mike, thanks!
QuoteI have been using my 1/0 for light tackle fishing 20-25#, but I may venture into trying onf of these monofils out. Great info mike!
These are great and simple reels. They can easily be built to a higher strength by upgrading the parts but they were first built as Light Tackle reels. Here is how they looked in 1954, 55 & 56 only, from left to right the Model 25, 26 & 27:
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After their colorful years they went to basic black or maroon, depending on what year they were.