Finally scored me a 99. No Jigmaster with a 99 plate. this is the real Deal.
What are the chances of a Decent Silver beach, Accurate frame and spool all showing up at the same time. I figured it was Karma. ;D
Oh man that's awesome, can't wait to see the final result. I'd say looks like some perfect timing all around.
Just so everyone knows. A true Aluminum frame was never made for a 99. This has the Jigmaster pattern. trying to make up my mind on drilling and tapping the frame to make a one of a kind reel, or just go with a Jigmaster 99. :-\
Stick with the SilverBeach. Mod the frame and show us how it's done!
I'm subscribed!
I'd keep it stock. If you "need" a 3:1 99 width reel use Surfmaster 250 side plates with the 99 width 500 frame and spool.
There are so many options on these smaller penns. I purposely bought this frame for a 99. The box even says for penn 99. I just wanted to trick out a silver beach. I really have no need for any of these Mods. I am just feeding my addiction.:P If I tap it, then it will be a universal frame for 99 width. I know I have a 501 from Al I am going to put a Tib frame on and The BP 5:1 Full Monty. The Franken Reel is a Venture I would rather not start, Because I know I will get it mixed up. "Is this A Jigmaster frame with 250 sideplates and 4:1 gears? Or is it a Silver Beach 3:1 With a Jigmaster Frame and a 99 spool? Is it a 99 spool in a Tib frame with BP 5:1 Gears?" Maybe down the road, I'll be as Slick as You and Sal Lee! ;)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on September 13, 2014, 04:29:38 AM
There are so many options on these smaller penns. I purposely bought this frame for a 99. The box even says for penn 99. I just wanted to trick out a silver beach. I really have no need for any of these Mods. I am just feeding my addiction.:P If I tap it, then it will be a universal frame for 99 width. I know I have a 501 from Al I am going to put a Tib frame on and The BP 5:1 Full Monty. The Franken Reel is a Venture I would rather not start, Because I know I will get it mixed up. "Is this A Jigmaster frame with 250 sideplates and 4:1 gears? Or is it a Silver Beach 3:1 With a Jigmaster Frame and a 99 spool? Is it a 99 spool in a Tib frame with BP 5:1 Gears?" Maybe down the road, I'll be as Slick as You and Sal Lee! ;)
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Dude...Have a Beer...And build a Franken Penn 250199
Quote from: Shark Hunter on September 13, 2014, 04:29:38 AM
. "Is this A Jigmaster frame with 250 sideplates and 4:1 gears? Or is it a Silver Beach 3:1 With a Jigmaster Frame and a 99 spool? Is it a 99 spool in a Tib frame with BP 5:1 Gears?" Maybe down the road, I'll be as Slick as You and Sal Lee! ;)
The 250 Surfmaster conversion is easy, even easier if you don't replace the offside side plate. Just loosen the takedown screw, twist off the handle side plate, put on the "new" side plate and tighten the takedown screw.
Because of the Spectra ban on the "challenge" >:( I took apart my 99 width 250, took apart a 500/501 to use, took the spectra off >:( and filled the spool with Dacron line.
Quote from: Keta on September 13, 2014, 09:47:00 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on September 13, 2014, 04:29:38 AM
. "Is this A Jigmaster frame with 250 sideplates and 4:1 gears? Or is it a Silver Beach 3:1 With a Jigmaster Frame and a 99 spool? Is it a 99 spool in a Tib frame with BP 5:1 Gears?" Maybe down the road, I'll be as Slick as You and Sal Lee! ;)
The 250 Surfmaster conversion is easy, even easier if you don't replace the offside side plate. Just loosen the takedown screw, twist off the handle side plate, put on the "new" side plate and tighten the takedown screw.
Because of the Spectra ban on the "challenge" >:( I took apart my 99 width 250, took apart a 500/501 to use, took the spectra off >:( and filled the spool with Dacron line.
Lee: You can even use gut line...I am going dacron because of you! I had a heck of a time casting that crud on my 500...Going to have to build a 501 or 506 and I'm looking at a Truline 8 footer too ;D ;D ;D Frankenstien that thing Daron
Sorry Al, but the votes have it. Frankenstein it is. I drilled and tapped the first hole in the frame and they are so close to the edge of the frame, I was worried about ruining it. I don't have a drill press, just simple hand tools. I will keep the 99 stock and make a Franken reel 99 250 with the frame.
I notice the gear in the 99 is recessed at the bottom?
It's probably just as well that you don't drill holes in that frame freehand, Daron. It's very nice and has been out of production for quite some time. If you damage a Tib frame, at least another current one can be bought. Good luck with your project which ever way you decide to go.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on September 14, 2014, 05:58:56 PM
Sorry Al, but the votes have it. Frankenstein it is.
That's ok Daron, I'm still subscribed.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on September 14, 2014, 05:58:56 PM
I drilled and tapped the first hole in the frame and they are so close to the edge of the frame, I was worried about ruining it.
Any close up pics of this?
I got interested in this post for a different reason. I used to live in Central Ca and the main highway running thru here was Highway 99. One of our local bars was named the 99 Club---- ;D ;D ;D ;)
TomT
Daron,
I know you aren't a Newell guy, but a Newell YTS frame will fit. As will 99 bars. One of these days I will build a true Albacore Special with a Newell YTS frame, Newell 99 bars and spool and a 500 sideplate built with all the goodies. I already have a 99 width Newelled 500 that I am crazy about, but the 99 just has to be made.
Ron
I just wanted a 99. I will put a Jigmaster 500 or 250 plates on this frame.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on September 17, 2014, 06:57:36 AM
I just wanted a 99.
Me too, they are not that common now though. I have a rat and a nice one.
For a different perspective, did you have a look at the one Gman built??
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11259.0
Yes I did, But I can't make myself modify the original reel. It is in great shape and I want to leave it original now. I went to put it all back together after work yesterday and I can't find that tiny Dog spring. Drats! I must have lost it cleaning the parts in Solvent.
I only gave $35 for the complete reel, shipped. I should have stopped there. The frame cost me $75 and the spool another $40. I will put it them to good use.
I think that you've made a good choice. Your Accurate frame and spool can be completed with parts that will bolt right on for a very nice finished reel.
Just out of curiosity, will Tiburon's P29 frame fit a stock Silver Beach 99 (without drilling etc.)? ???
~A~
Quote from: Aiala on September 18, 2014, 03:17:41 PM
Just out of curiosity, will Tiburon's P29 frame fit a stock Silver Beach 99 (without drilling etc.)? ???
~A~
No.
Quote from: noyb72 on September 17, 2014, 05:40:33 AM
Daron,
I know you aren't a Newell guy, but a Newell YTS frame will fit.
Ron
A Newell YTS reel foot won't fit my 99. The screw holes are slightly off and don't line up.
Aiala,
To the best of my Knowledge, There is no aftermarket Aluminum frame made to fit a stock 99. The stand holes are different. I found this out the Hard way. There are all kinds of combinations with different plates, but if you want to keep it stock. No Dice.
Ron says a Newell YTS frame will work. I'm not crossing that Bridge. ;)
All my bridges are currently on YTSs, but I'll pull one apart to check.
Ron
:D You misunderstood me Ron. :D
By "not crossing that bridge", I mean I'm not going to do it. ;D
This should be a dumb question, but you did reach out to Chowderpuff? If it's available he would be my first choice.
Tim
I have another that's going to get the 501 treatment
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Hey Daron --
Dog spring #14-99 -- on its way to you!
Best,
Fred
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Quote from: foakes on September 19, 2014, 01:02:17 AM
Hey Daron --
Dog spring #14-99 -- on its way to you!
Best,
Fred
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Reely D. even I have that spring ;D Fred I'm glad you bailed him out.
When I got home from work this morning, I searched Hi and low. Crawling around under the kitchen table. that is usually where I find it. No luck. I am so use to the surfmasters that have the piece of brass. I cleaned the parts in solvent last weekend. dumped them out, and put them on a rag to dry. I looked out there, It has rained pretty good since then. Its gone. I tried using a different one. its too big. I will order several of these when I place my next order to scotts. My Man Fred hooked me up! ;D
Y'all remember how Irish Jigger modified his 99? Check out this link.
http://alantani.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=q1l5tlb4u40ga9vn7rnuhogla7&topic=6437.msg54778#msg54778
The cut down 500 bars aren't any more rigid than the Newell bars, but it shows how to handle a problem in a very innovative way. It also gives the old 99 a different look. I suppose one could use the same idea to adapt a narrow reel foot to a wider reel.
I didn't see that one George. Tom does good work! ;)
Finally put my Silver Beach back together. Thank You for the spring Fred! ;)
I kept it all stock except for a drag upgrade to CF and a Delrin undergear washer.
Got this reel for $35. ;
Daron
The parts for my 99 are getting close to $100. I didn't even buy any SS for it.
Mike
I picked up this reel from JD reels out of LA. Anybody heard of them? I paid $99 for it, which seemed fitting. A 99 Jigmaster with accurate spool and frame. It is supposed to have 5:1 stainless gears in it.
Not too worried about that.
I paid $75 just for the frame next to it. I think I did good. So now I have a Jigmaster 99, an original Silver Beach and am probably going to make a Surfmaster 250, 99.
That set of gears is brand new for a 9500 SS. They will upgrade the sand trap. Just waiting on the pinion to get here. Thanks Larry!
what i'd love to see is a way to adapt a long beach 60 spool and frame to this side plate. THAT would be nice!
Daron,
Someone else may have thought of this before, but here is a way of getting the "99" look with the outer chrome beauty ring and a Tiburon frame:
Install a a left "259" sideplate (it has the outer beauty ring) and a #2-250 ring to the right side, then you can install a R/H 99, 250, or 500 sideplate assembly to the Tib frame.
Of course, you will have some more left-over parts ::) and that's always a good thing. :D
I don't think the 60 is the right diameter Boss. It is bigger than the 99. What we need is a custom side plate that will bolt 112h guts to the 60 stand and bars. I'm not sure if the pinion would fit the spool, but we really need a fast 60. Or just someone (listen up Alan C) to make us fast Squidder gears that will fit, well it will fit more reels than I feel like listing.
Ron
Wouldn't a jigmaster 501 or 506 do the job? 112h guts, fast gear ratio,handy size, etc.
The 60 would have the same retrieve ratio as a 112H, which is higher than the Jigmasters. It is also between a 99 and a 501 in width, which means it has the capacity close to a 500 in a reel almost as narrow as the 501.
Put another way, it would be a cheap way to get into something the size of Tiburon's White Sea Bass Special only not as strong because of the frame. In all honesty that isn't horrible as the beefier factory stand can handle the 15#s or so that Alan Cs gears can fish at this spool diameter, and why on Earth wouldn't you run those here? A very high capacity 45# braid reel.
Ron
Quote from: RowdyW on November 23, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
Wouldn't a jigmaster 501 or 506 do the job? 112h guts, fast gear ratio,handy size, etc.
The low gear ratio is one of the reasons to do this. My working "99" reels are Surfmaster 250's with narrow frames.
Ron, the 112h is the same ratio as the JM 500 & 501. If you want a higher ratio go to a 506 or 505. And a 500 or 505 would have even more capacity of 45# braid. If capacity is the end goal then just think how much 45# braid you can get on a 49 which is the same width as a 501 &506. RUDY
OK,
I'm not making any headway.
500/501 = 4:0/1 gear ratio small diameter
112H = 4.0/1 gear ratio large diameter 66 width spool.
Longbeach 60 3.?/1 gear ratio, large diameter, spool width between 501 and 112H.
The retrieve ratio of the 500 is similar to the 60 due to the higher ratio of the 500 and the large diameter of the 60.
The 112H has to much capacity for 45# braid which is as high a line as you can do with the 15# drag you can get with Alan Cs 5.0/1 SS gears.
If you had a custom set of high speed gears for the 60 then it would have a higher retrieve rate than the 500. If you had a side plate that could make the 112H guts on a 60 spool then we could use Alan's gears and have a screaming retrieve ratio with better capacity.
I hope I've made my position clear. ALAN PLEASE MAKE FAST SQUIDDER GEARS!!
Ron
Quote from: noyb72 on November 24, 2014, 05:47:55 AM
OK,
I'm not making any headway.
500/501 = 4:0/1 gear ratio small diameter
112H = 4.0/1 gear ratio large diameter 66 width spool.
Longbeach 60 3.?/1 gear ratio, large diameter, spool width between 501 and 112H.
The retrieve ratio of the 500 is similar to the 60 due to the higher ratio of the 500 and the large diameter of the 60.
The 112H has to much capacity for 45# braid which is as high a line as you can do with the 15# drag you can get with Alan Cs 5.0/1 SS gears.
If you had a custom set of high speed gears for the 60 then it would have a higher retrieve rate than the 500. If you had a side plate that could make the 112H guts on a 60 spool then we could use Alan's gears and have a screaming retrieve ratio with better capacity.
I hope I've made my position clear. ALAN PLEASE MAKE FAST SQUIDDER GEARS!!
Ron
Or just take the 112h and narrow in with the WSB kit from tiburon and call it a day ;D
OK,
I tore this reel all apart. I don't trust those ebay gears. There is also some kind of pale green grease on the frame and screws. Set out my options. Black Pearl bridge and gears, ss sleeve yoke, jack. or just a stock set of gears with ss sleeve?
The stock bridge dog spring is tweaked a little bit, I have another. The drags have some kind of automotive grease on them. I cleaned them up and put cal's on them. I decided to go with a stock set of steel 500 gears and the three stack with carbontex drags with a Delrin Undergear. Stock bridge with 505 ss sleeve and the bigger star with the black Pearl Spacer. BP's 5:1 pinion wouldn't slide on this spool for some reason.
Plus, I want to save the Black Pearl gears and bridge for a different project.
The spacer sleeve is a little snug, but I think that's a good thing. The reel spins nice and smooth.