Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn 99/Jigmaster/SurfMaster/Squidder Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: mhc on November 16, 2014, 09:17:15 AM

Title: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: mhc on November 16, 2014, 09:17:15 AM
I have assembled a 99 size accurate jigmaster with Pro Challenger double dog stainless bridge, eccentric jack, yoke and 5:1 gear set (from Dawn at smoothdrag). I like the idea of less back-play in the handle so tried shortening the shorter 'bent' dog that comes with the bridge.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oSoToJrQqnE/VGhSMtr_LJI/AAAAAAAAAGE/blTMoq5G42Y/s800/DSCF2333.jpg)

I had bought a pair of gold accuplates with no particular reel in mind until Randy at Vintage Offshore Tackle sold me a gold 99 frame and spool. All it needed now was Bryan's 5 + 1 drag kit, Alan T's handle and 3/0 grip and an AT stainless gear sleeve 98-505AT from Scott's along with a few Penn parts - drag star 10-505-BS, eccentric ,spring and lever, and clutch springs.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yFYhAMzzD1s/VGhSIhAh56I/AAAAAAAAAFs/bivEcCFjzrc/s800/DSCF2330.jpg)

Partially assembled;

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v2fdgyxx44k/VGhSRveqxkI/AAAAAAAAAGY/f4cvJCcqi7c/s800/DSCF2335.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-34V95y5M2nk/VGhSSNjxizI/AAAAAAAAAGc/YrARolaDHyc/s800/DSCF2336.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Gxp0AJ0wms0/VGhSQs5Og-I/AAAAAAAAAGM/Mq_FtY1EYhY/s800/DSCF2334.jpg)

And fully assembled;

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nmT9WBOv260/VGhSWi6SyZI/AAAAAAAAAGw/cgOlkE-UdpA/s800/DSCF2338.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lC4QulAOeik/VGhSW1OqqNI/AAAAAAAAAG0/pqO2UynrwXU/s800/DSCF2339.jpg)

I have ordered a few spare 'bent' dogs for the Alan C bridges so that I can change between simultaneous and alternating engagement of the dogs.
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on November 16, 2014, 09:42:30 AM
Nicely done! I was actually looking at doing something very similar with Black Pearl's bridge plate! How's it feel?
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: Alto Mare on November 16, 2014, 10:29:27 AM
Good job! I might be wrong, but that spacer doesn't look like Black Pearl's, gears will definitely fail without it.
Sal
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on November 16, 2014, 10:40:22 AM
Nice job :)
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: mhc on November 16, 2014, 10:57:49 AM
Thanks Sal, you're right it's a std spacer, the thicker Black Pear spacers don't fit in the accurate plate that I have (not even close) which made me think the std spacer would be tight enough to give some lateral support. I have photographed the spacer in place with Alan's spacer supplied with the gear set beside it;

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wAo3xbtFctU/VGiJ4Cl5gYI/AAAAAAAAALg/hUg1FdTgaNM/s800/DSCF2341.jpg)  

Fishticks - thanks, I haven't spooled it yet but just playing with it there is obviously less back-play but, to be honest, I'm not sure if it is worth the sacrifice in strength that the opposing simultaneous dogs give. I guess it depends on what we use it for, that's why I have ordered the extra dogs so I can switch back if I ever make up my mind  :-\

Tiddlerbasher - thanks, I'm just taking advantage of all the parts available due to the innovation and development generated by members of this site.
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: DaBigOno on November 16, 2014, 11:29:32 AM
Good job!

I like the 99 size.
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: Alto Mare on November 16, 2014, 12:16:45 PM
Yes I believe you, I've seen it before. I guess I just got lucky with mine, Alan's fits perfectly
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/004-21.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/004-21.jpg.html)
sorry its not a clear shot.

About the bridge, one day I was in need of a 98-60AT and couldn't get one, so I decided to use the 98-155AT on the Jigmaster. Some might say that the ratchet is too small, but that sleeve did just fine and the back-play was less.
Sal

Here is a pic of the two side by side
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/011-10.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/011-10.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on November 17, 2014, 09:55:00 AM
QuoteYes I believe you, I've seen it before. I guess I just got lucky with mine, Alan's fits perfectly

Some people have all the luck!  ;)

Just an idea since there is a shortage of 98-60 ss sleeves. When Alan reorders more maybe try adding more teeth to the racket. Might help with back play. Just an idea.
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: alantani on November 17, 2014, 07:33:57 PM
yeah, thought about increasing, maybe even doubling, the number of teeth, but it needs a certain amount of contact area and the teeth would end up being to shallow.   :-\
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: Alto Mare on November 17, 2014, 07:44:02 PM
I believe they would be ok, as long as they're stainless steel. Tom did increase the teeth on his last ones he made, but only by one, I don't see any problems adding 3 or 4 more. I already spoke to someone about it a while back, but he doesn't want to do it yet. I'm also looking to secure the sleeve with a "C" clip on top instead of the pin, but that would also mean a smooth shaft and a new handle nut...maybe one day. :-\
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: Tightlines667 on November 17, 2014, 08:36:35 PM
I like your C clip idea Sal.  Should help to smooth out the drag even more then using just the Delron undergear washer.
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: handi2 on November 18, 2014, 12:54:39 AM
Thanks Sal. I will now change mine too. I like the alternating dogs. It's not going to fail using one...
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: foakes on November 18, 2014, 01:12:59 AM
This is not a criticism -- far from it...

Just an ironic observation --

With all of the upgrades we are doing in Stainless Steel to our Penns -- SS gears, sleeves, bridges, springs, c clips, yokes, jacks, twistless double cross posts, power handles, dogs, stands, smoother drags, and more -- pretty soon we will be close to where Carl Newell was 30 years ago.

A life too short...

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Alternating dogs in a 99 accurate
Post by: Alto Mare on November 18, 2014, 01:25:04 AM
Criticism is good Fred, especially coming from you. With the many upgrades we've been doing here, I never forget who the real masters were, they worked for Penn. Too bad they didn't teach their kids how its done, that's one of the reason we do upgrades today ;). I'll personally take an older reel instead of a new one of today, but that's just me :-\.