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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: basto on January 23, 2015, 08:42:52 PM

Title: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: basto on January 23, 2015, 08:42:52 PM
Hi guys
Can anyone give me an approximate time this plate was made? It`s my oldest 113h. Just got it yesterday.
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/OLD%2040_zps0r4x2r1f.jpg)
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: mike1010 on January 23, 2015, 09:51:48 PM
I don't know the answer to your question, but that thing is just beautiful.
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: basto on January 24, 2015, 12:51:25 AM
Thanks Mike. It will be even better when I have cleaned it up.
cheers
Basto
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: handi2 on January 24, 2015, 12:56:44 AM
Sal will probably give a good idea. Does have thin harness lugs and thinner post's. The really old ones do.
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: Alto Mare on January 24, 2015, 01:25:25 AM
That is one of the very early plates, those started appearing in the #25 catalog. It could go as far back as 1959.
We do have some geniuses here that might give a better answer.


Keith, did you get the envelope?
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: Superhook on January 24, 2015, 01:33:22 AM
Basto,

The "Special" 4/0's first appeared in Catalog #26 (1963) . The side plates were red/maroon . Gear ratio 3 .25 to 1 and you can get at the drags without removing the side plate. Ball bearings in both side plates. One piece cast bronze spool with stainless steel spindle . O'size handle with larger knobs and extra heavy chrome plating . There was also a 6/0 Special with 2.8 to 1 gearing.

Ray
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: Alto Mare on January 24, 2015, 01:41:15 AM
Ray, yes I just checked and it is a #26 catalog. I always count from the catalog #21, its the only one with the date, so if the 21 has a 1958 date, you're spot on, 1963.
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 24, 2015, 01:46:30 AM
That's two years before I was born. ;)
I'm going to have to make SoCal an offer on his. I think one of these early 113's would make a good tank! 8)
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: foakes on January 24, 2015, 01:56:36 AM
That is a beautiful sideplate -- looked through my 4/0s & 6/0s -- and found some close -- but not as nice as that.

But when looking, I did find some brand new 140 sideplates in envelopes, 209 rings, and 140 rings hidden under some of these -- all new.

Best,

Fred

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/724A966E-41EE-4662-82BD-AE370F3CC406_zpsuojwcbmy.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/724A966E-41EE-4662-82BD-AE370F3CC406_zpsuojwcbmy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: bluefish69 on January 24, 2015, 02:13:50 AM
Fred


Your Rich-you have the goodies

Mike


I just bought an entire 99 to get a plate like that because mine has a small crack near the center of the left plate.
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: basto on January 24, 2015, 02:17:15 PM
Thanks very much guys for the info. much appreciated!
Basto

and this is after a bath in soapy water.
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/P1020836_zpsq8laemv6.jpg)
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: SoCalAngler on January 25, 2015, 02:25:53 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 24, 2015, 01:46:30 AM
That's two years before I was born. ;)
I'm going to have to make SoCal an offer on his. I think one of these early 113's would make a good tank! 8)

Shark Hunteryou have a PM.
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 26, 2015, 12:44:10 AM
My tank has the same plate. The flash makes it look brighter, but its Maroon.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2794_zpsf56f8234.jpg)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2795_zps574ff336.jpg)
Thanks SoCal. ;)
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: Alto Mare on January 26, 2015, 12:49:18 AM
Take a closer look Daron, yours is different. Your plate is from a much later model.
The boat on your plate sank.
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: BMITCH on January 26, 2015, 12:58:31 AM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: MarkT on January 26, 2015, 01:00:01 AM
Yeah, my side plate is maroon, but it's like Daron's rather than Basto's and the drags can't be changed from the outside.
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 26, 2015, 01:45:04 AM
You are right Sal. I think it just went out of view. ;D
I have the one with the boat in it coming from SoCal.
Mark, My reel is newer, but I have the quick change drag side plate.
Adam's insert will be going in there. ;)
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: basto on February 14, 2015, 06:56:52 AM
Well the old girl cleaned up pretty good. She got a new alloy spool and carbontex drag. I have come to think that these old 113h reels are somewhat relieved of a lot of stress with the heavy chromed spools replaced with a light aluminium one and a greased carbontex drag.
I am now happy to keep the post frame.
cheers
Basto
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/P1020896_zpsaj4aae5u.jpg)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/P1020895_zpsmrga7ohn.jpg)
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: Mattman NZ on February 14, 2015, 09:52:49 AM
You done an excellent job on the old girl Basto - She cleaned up really nice.
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 14, 2015, 10:22:10 AM
Looks Good Basto. I got mine the other day. I'm going to go all out on it.
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: DaBigOno on February 14, 2015, 12:58:11 PM
WoW!   Awsome job Basto.  You deserve a Gold Star on this one.
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: coastal_dan on February 14, 2015, 03:38:37 PM
Awesome example, thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: Alto Mare on February 14, 2015, 06:07:43 PM
Basto, you do some nice work ...thanks for taking us along. ;)
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: Dominick on February 14, 2015, 07:14:55 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 14, 2015, 06:07:43 PM
Basto, you do some nice work ...thanks for taking us along. ;)
Me too.  Dominick
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: basto on February 14, 2015, 08:18:53 PM
Thanks for all the compliments guys. I just love it here.
Basto
Title: Re: How old is this side plate please?
Post by: basto on February 14, 2015, 08:21:32 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 14, 2015, 10:22:10 AM
Looks Good Basto. I got mine the other day. I'm going to go all out on it.
Looking forward to see that Daron.