From what I have seen people are installing delrin washers under the main gear instead of a carbon fiber washer as well as replacing the spring washer or belville on top of the drag stack with one. and from what I have read it is supposed to make the drag smoother. Where can I get these and how much are they?
thanks
Dustin
Call Dawn at Smooth Drag -- on this site.
Tell her you are a member -- she offers super customer service.
And they are inexpensive.
Best,
Fred
I can see a possibility for delrin spool bushings taking the place of phosphor bronze ones. At least it would not be a metal to metal operation.
Basto
Basto, this may be something :-\ drill out the bushing and install a delrin insert. Interesting :-\
Hey Basto & BMitch --
Your right -- Delrin works, period.
As for bushings, in the old days -- 20-25 years ago, I did hundreds of upgrades to Jigmasters.
These would include anything from upgrading to smooth drags -- to a full Accurate frame & sideplate install -- with all of the goodies.
Possibly my favorite, was a conversion I called the "Poor Man's 99".
Take a stock 500 -- Accurate frame, stock Penn plates, smooth drags from Newell, SS discs, aluminum spool, power handle, and these brown spool bushings I got from Carl Newell by the bag. Couple drops of oil -- adjust the spool side to side free play to your satisfaction -- and they last really well if oiled once in a while. When on a trip, like a long range -- just switch them out easily if needed.
These were 30 and 40 pound rigs when coupled with a Cal-Star or some such decent rod.
Many of my clients used them 80% of the time that they were on long rangers. And they did very well.
This is what these plastic inserts from Carl look like:
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/D5BBE497-7C42-4CDC-8894-E71476B193EE_zpsikduymvg.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/D5BBE497-7C42-4CDC-8894-E71476B193EE_zpsikduymvg.jpg.html)
Best,
Fred
I have a few packs of those. My Guru here in NY said to drill the smallest hole possible in the end to oil them. I tried them & didn't like them. The hole for the spool was too small, making the hole larger didn't help either.
Mike
Hey Mike --
If you do not want them -- sell them to me.
When I ship your reels back to you -- you can send them to me, if you wish.
I only have a few left -- and need to find a source of these old guys, or similar.
Best,
Fred
I liked ABU`s bushings in my old 7000...just unscrew the side plate cap and they fall in or out., but I can remember someone saying that when they wear, the spool can rub on the frame under load(drag)
I think a metal to "plastic " setup would wear better.
Basto
Quote from: basto on February 03, 2015, 09:34:01 PM
I think a metal to "plastic " setup would wear better.
I like bronze to SS.
Brass to SS. Brass is softer and slippery than Bronze.
Quote from: foakes on February 03, 2015, 04:28:37 PM
Hey Mike --
If you do not want them -- sell them to me.
When I ship your reels back to you -- you can send them to me, if you wish.
I only have a few left -- and need to find a source of these old guys, or similar.
Best,
Fred
I bought them just because they were Newell. I also have his Drag Washers in original packs. These were bought for collecting.
Mike
Quote from: MarkT on February 03, 2015, 10:32:20 PM
Brass to SS. Brass is softer and slippery than Bronze.
But it lasts longer.
I understand, Mike --
I have probably 300-400 of the old smooth drags from Carl Newell, in a couple of different sizes.
They are the thin reddish marbled ones -- all brand new in packages -- 100 to a pack.
And a lot of SS drag washers.
Got them directly from Carl many years ago.
Best,
Fred