Today about the Pastime Princess we caught a lot of puppy sharks and they usually show up when the water is dirty like is now after the big blow we had for a few days. We also caught a bunch of vermilions and triggers.
The weird thing for me is that I started with a 40 lb bottom rig for mangos and pulled up a king mackerel without getting bit off. So king are here right? Grab my reel with the wire leader and hook up a sardine to flat line caught two big red snappers and no kings. The fish have not read the fishing rules I guess.
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a526/dwebb49/IMG_0668_zpsjd5w9iew.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/dwebb49/media/IMG_0668_zpsjd5w9iew.jpg.html)
Good Job Dwight! ;)
Mr. personality really need to Learn how to smile for the Camera. :D
When you say puppy Sharks. Are they Sharpnose? Or just small sharks?
Daron, I don't know what species they really are but have always heard them called puppy sharks on every boat that I have fished. They 3 ft or less mostly. Mike does not smile for the camera rarely smiles about anything because he is not fishing. Here is another one of the endangered species caught right next to me on a wire leader flat lining a sardine.
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That is as big as a Sharpnose gets. About 3'. I was just Curious.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/DSCN1677_zpsaefbf9f7.jpg)
looks like what we call a dog fish, on wrecks alot
Yep, dog fish down my way as well...bait snatchers. Those get on my nerves, I minimize using squid, they love it.
Quote from: Newell Nut on February 07, 2015, 10:00:33 PM
Today about the Pastime Princess we caught a lot of puppy sharks and they usually show up when the water is dirty like is now after the big blow we had for a few days. We also caught a bunch of vermilions and triggers.
The weird thing for me is that I started with a 40 lb bottom rig for mangos and pulled up a king mackerel without getting bit off. So king are here right? Grab my reel with the wire leader and hook up a sardine to flat line caught two big red snappers and no kings. The fish have not read the fishing rules I guess.
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a526/dwebb49/IMG_0668_zpsjd5w9iew.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/dwebb49/media/IMG_0668_zpsjd5w9iew.jpg.html)
Dwight, you could give Mike heads up that I'm going to bet him that I could put a smile on his face when I get down there ;) ;D
There is a Sicilian guy that fishes the second Thursday of each month from The Villages fishing group and you and he together would crack Mike I think. Gilberto is a riot.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 07, 2015, 10:27:56 PM
That is as big as a Sharpnose gets. About 3'. I was just Curious.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/DSCN1677_zpsaefbf9f7.jpg)
It's nearly impossible to fish inshore here without catching those little buggers.
Yep dog fish. Although it is insulting to my dog. :D ;D Dominick
I have actually only caught one. My Boy Mike caught the other.
They don't eat Stingray.
Well, they might try.
If I catch another, he will be bait. ;)
Our dog sharks are really spiny dogfish, yours look like nice little sharks.
Dogfish here in the U.K.
Bait stealing menace.
I heading out of Jacksonville in a couple of weeks and was wondering if you caught any black sea bass along with the triggers and b-liners
Quote from: Keta on February 08, 2015, 05:48:35 AM
Our dog sharks are really spiny dogfish, yours look like nice little sharks.
Agree. I catch dogfish on occasion while deep dropping and most of ours have a spine also. Most common I catch in the deep is the Cuban Dogfish. That is probably a Sharpnose in Daron's picture but it is hard to confirm by the picture. Dogfish, even the non spiny ones have straight tails without the notch on top like the shark in the picture. Puppy shark is also used as a common name for any small shark that people don't bother to identify.
Watch out guys!! I believe those doggies are a protected species.go figure! Freaking PIA!
Yes they are, be cautious out there. There has to be millions of those...go figure. 8-10 mile out they reach lengths over 3', its a constant battle trying to keep them off. ::)
You have to buy a $20 permit to keep them. Our boat has a permit and recently another party boat had to pay $1000 fine for not having the $20 permit with the puppy sharks in the box..
Are they edible?
Quote from: Newell Nut on February 08, 2015, 05:23:25 PM
You have to buy a $20 permit to keep them. Our boat has a permit and recently another party boat had to pay $1000 fine for not having the $20 permit with the puppy sharks in the box..
Surprised that any boat fishing out of Florida in Federal waters would not have their appropriate HMS permit. You need one to even keep a SkipJack.
Quote from: Keta on February 08, 2015, 05:52:49 PM
Are they edible?
Lee I think there is a commercial value. I've heard they make everything from fish n chips to cat food to fertilizer with them. I personally have never had nor seen/talked to anyone who "knowingly" has.
These puppy sharks cook up great fresh. Not so good after being frozen but really good fresh caught and cooked. You can simply sauté them in light olive oil with blackened seasoning or batter and fry.
My father used to eat them, he used to call us stupid and say that we didn't learn anything from him ;D. It believe it was ok to keep them in the 70's....I'm hoping ;D
I remember seing them at Oriental Markets, along with Skates.
Some claim they make the best fish stew :-\
Dogfish don't have the step in the tail like a Sharpnose.
Sharpnose look like a miniature Bull shark. Lots of teeth!
http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/sfa/hms/species/sharks/rec_shark_id_placard.pdf
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/sharpnose_zps72946c0d.jpg)
Quote from: BMITCH on February 08, 2015, 04:39:10 PM
Watch out guys!! I believe those doggies are a protected species.go figure! Freaking PIA!
Doggies are protected but draggers can get a permit & catch 3000# a day. When I was on the boat some people would keep them, Skin & take them home. Doggies Urinate through their skin so clean them fast after they die. If not before that.
Mike
All true Shark Species do that Mike. Cleaning on the spot is the way to do it if you are going to eat it. ;)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 09, 2015, 05:24:07 AM
All true Shark Species do that Mike. Cleaning on the spot is the way to do it if you are going to eat it. ;)
Close, but not 100% correct Mr. SHARK. Many of the true Lamanids (Shortfin/longfin Makos, Salmon, Great Whites), and a few others (Common/Pelagic/Bigeye Threshers), have more advanced kidneys, which remove and excrete almost all of the urea. Incidentally, these guys also have countercurrent heat exchsnge systems (like Bluefin/Bigeye Tunas, and Swordfish), which allow them to thermoregulate. These guys are not true Cold blooded animals.
I stand corrected John. ;D
well that was a pisser
Been eating them for years, quite tasty.
In the UK they are also known as Rock Salmon, a name thought up by marketeers to make them more acceptable to consumers, and are one of the popular fish sold in Fish & Chip shops.