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General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: bob v on February 15, 2015, 09:18:49 PM

Title: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: bob v on February 15, 2015, 09:18:49 PM
I was wondering if there is a way to remove the old bakelite-plastic knobs from handles that are too far gone or if you want to sand blast and powder coat? Anyone try this and what were the results?.....bob v
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Tightlines667 on February 15, 2015, 09:41:23 PM
Where there is a will there is a way.  Search the forum.  I believe someone has posted about how to do this.  I seem to recall the process involving heat.  I have yet to attempt it personally.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: jg125 on February 16, 2015, 01:29:32 AM
Quote from: bob v on February 15, 2015, 09:18:49 PM
I was wondering if there is a way to remove the old bakelite-plastic knobs from handles that are too far gone or if you want to sand blast and powder coat? Anyone try this and what were the results?.....bob v
The only way I know is to drill out the rivet most new knobs I used I had to re drill hole with a 6mm bit the penn 114h I didn't have too there is a few guys on here that sell handles and knobs on this site try looking in the for sale section and sure they have instructions for what they sell.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: surfcaster on February 16, 2015, 01:44:56 AM
I tried it before the bakelight does not like heat They usually crack. the black knobs come right off with heat.
  got a few spares if you need one. tight lines Richie



[(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o774/richiec72/knobs_zps2d4db37e.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/richiec72/media/knobs_zps2d4db37e.jpg.html)][/(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o774/richiec72/pennknob_zps5fea5b54.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/richiec72/media/pennknob_zps5fea5b54.jpg.html)]
 
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Alto Mare on February 16, 2015, 05:44:09 AM
I did a couple and never cracked the knob, maybe i got lucky :-\. I do not heat the knob, just the shaft. I use Map/Pro, usually just 10-15 seconds and have a couple of rags ready to pull. I've noticed if you apply excessive heat, the hole on the knob gets too enlarged and a little out of shape.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Jerseymic on February 16, 2015, 08:31:53 AM
Hi Bob v,

Made a press to remove knobs which I have had success with.

Largest removed so far is a 6/0, only had one break and that was a smaller one.

I always put the handle in the freezer for 24 hours before trying to remove the knob.

It was made out of some scrap aluminium I had, would be better made from steel plate as the aluminium flexes somewhat, and the design could do with a bit of modifying, which I will get around to sometime.

It is not precision engineering, but I am a carpenter ;D

Also, if you put the plate in front of the removed knob, you can use it as a press to put the knob back onto a new arm.

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae216/jerseymic/Press3_zps8fc264c9.jpg) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/jerseymic/media/Press3_zps8fc264c9.jpg.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae216/jerseymic/Press2_zps0f627654.jpg) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/jerseymic/media/Press2_zps0f627654.jpg.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae216/jerseymic/Press1_zps98622e83.jpg) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/jerseymic/media/Press1_zps98622e83.jpg.html)

Mike.



Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Tightlines667 on February 16, 2015, 08:35:06 AM
Looks simple yet effective.  Maybe I don't need that benchtop press I've been eyeing afterall.  A couple of metal plates w/stout bolts would do the trick.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Bryan Young on February 16, 2015, 08:42:02 AM
That is very slick Mike.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: bob v on February 16, 2015, 04:03:20 PM
Nice idea Mike, I might give it a try. Are the knobs pressed on or glued?.....bob v
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Jerseymic on February 16, 2015, 04:34:09 PM
Started on a modified remover today out of steel.

A clamp piece to hold the arm against the back plate instead of clamping the arm in the vice.

Cut slots in the back-plate so I can position the clamp piece where I like.

Drilled an indentation in the back-plate so the rivet wasn't touching.

Covered the back plate and the inside face of the clamp piece with thin rubber, to protect the arm.

Have yet to cut the plate that presses the knob off out of steel, in fact I will cut two, one with a narrow slot for the smaller arms, and one with a wider slot for the larger arms.

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae216/jerseymic/RevisedPress2_zpsbfc2eb9f.jpg) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/jerseymic/media/RevisedPress2_zpsbfc2eb9f.jpg.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae216/jerseymic/RevisedPress1_zps7ec3e584.jpg) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/jerseymic/media/RevisedPress1_zps7ec3e584.jpg.html)

A friend of mine has named it 'THE MEVAGISSEY KNOB PULLER'

Bob v, the knobs I have removed have all been pressed on, no sign of any adhesive.

Mike.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Keta on February 16, 2015, 04:41:25 PM
Nice Mike, I'm working on pulling some shafts in handles with the arm removed.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Jerseymic on February 16, 2015, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: Keta on February 16, 2015, 04:41:25 PM
Nice Mike, I'm working on pulling some shafts in handles with the arm removed.

Thank you Lee, it is not very pretty but it works, I am sure you could make something that has a lot more finesse.

All my metal working tools consist of, is a drill press, files, hacksaws and a Dremel  :(

It would have been easier for me to make it out of timber, but it would have been rather large  ;D

How do you go about what you are working on?

Mike.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Keta on February 16, 2015, 07:39:12 PM
If shipping wasn't so much you might of had a surprise in the mail.... :D
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Jerseymic on February 16, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
Quote from: Keta on February 16, 2015, 07:39:12 PM
If shipping wasn't so much you might of had a surprise in the mail.... :D

Lee,

You know I don't mind paying for things, what have you got    ;)
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Keta on February 16, 2015, 09:08:32 PM
I was thinking a SS handle puller.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: surfcaster on February 16, 2015, 10:03:00 PM
 That is cool, I have  2 of every tool at sears & home depot even some snapon
  yet  some of the best tools are the ones you engineer yourself.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Jerseymic on February 16, 2015, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: Keta on February 16, 2015, 09:08:32 PM
I was thinking a SS handle puller.

I am not quite with you on handle puller, is it what I am calling knob puller?
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Keta on February 16, 2015, 10:39:52 PM
D'oh, yes.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Jerseymic on February 17, 2015, 12:35:27 AM
Quote from: Keta on February 16, 2015, 10:39:52 PM
D'oh, yes.


I bet that looks smart, I would like to see a photo.

Stainless would be nice, but for the amount I pull, my old steel thing works okay.

Like I said, I have only had one break so far, but I've not pulled anything bigger than a 6/0.

Out of the two 6/0s I pulled, one was a bit of a job, so I chucked it back in the freezer for another 24 hrs and managed to get it off.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: ez2cdave on March 25, 2015, 05:26:30 PM
JERSEY MIKE,

Here's a downloadable PDF file (ATTACHED) of your "Knob Puller" post, so that everyone can download it, if they like !

Tight Lines !!!
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Jerseymic on March 25, 2015, 08:34:16 PM
Quote from: ez2cdave on March 25, 2015, 05:26:30 PM
JERSEY MIKE,

Here's a downloadable PDF file (ATTACHED) of your "Knob Puller" post, so that everyone can download it, if they like !

Tight Lines !!!

That is wonderful, I have never created a PDF file.

Mike.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: ez2cdave on March 25, 2015, 08:59:20 PM
Quote from: Jerseymic on March 25, 2015, 08:34:16 PM
Quote from: ez2cdave on March 25, 2015, 05:26:30 PM
JERSEY MIKE,

Here's a downloadable PDF file (ATTACHED) of your "Knob Puller" post, so that everyone can download it, if they like !

Tight Lines !!!

That is wonderful, I have never created a PDF file.

Mike.

Mike,

This is how I did it :

(1) Highlight and copy the desired text from the thread.

(2) Paste it into Word and save it as a PDF file, instead of a DOC.

(3) Upload the PDF to the Forum.

Tight Lines !
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Jerseymic on March 25, 2015, 09:02:29 PM
Quote from: ez2cdave on March 25, 2015, 08:59:20 PM
Quote from: Jerseymic on March 25, 2015, 08:34:16 PM
Quote from: ez2cdave on March 25, 2015, 05:26:30 PM
JERSEY MIKE,

Here's a downloadable PDF file (ATTACHED) of your "Knob Puller" post, so that everyone can download it, if they like !

Tight Lines !!!

That is wonderful, I have never created a PDF file.

Mike.

Mike,

This is how I did it :

(1) Highlight and copy the desired text from the thread.

(2) Paste it into Word and save it as a PDF file, instead of a DOC.

(3) Upload the PDF to the Forum.

Tight Lines !

Thanks for the info, how do you upload the PDF to the forum.

Mike.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: ez2cdave on March 26, 2015, 03:35:34 PM
Quote from: Jerseymic on March 25, 2015, 09:02:29 PMThanks for the info, how do you upload the PDF to the forum.

Mike.

Mike,

OK . . . Here we go !

Whenever you make a post to the Forum, you will see an item at the LOWER LEFT, labelled "Additional Options".  

When you click on it, the following information appears:

- Additional Options...
   
[ ] Notify me of replies.    
[ ] Return to this topic.    
[ ] Don't use smileys.    

Attach: [Browse] No file selected.   (more attachments)
Allowed file types: doc, gif, jpg, mpg, pdf, png, txt, zip
Maximum attachment size allowed: 9000000 KB, per post: 4

Click on "Browse" and it will allow you to select a file from your computer to ATTACH to your message. If you want multiple attachments ( up to 4 per post ), click on "More Attachments" for each one you want to do.

When you are finished, POST the message . . . PRESTO !!!

Tight Lines !


Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: Jerseymic on March 26, 2015, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: ez2cdave on March 26, 2015, 03:35:34 PM
Quote from: Jerseymic on March 25, 2015, 09:02:29 PMThanks for the info, how do you upload the PDF to the forum.

Mike.

Mike,

OK . . . Here we go !

Whenever you make a post to the Forum, you will see an item at the LOWER LEFT, labelled "Additional Options".  

When you click on it, the following information appears:

- Additional Options...
   
[ ] Notify me of replies.    
[ ] Return to this topic.    
[ ] Don't use smileys.    

Attach: [Browse] No file selected.   (more attachments)
Allowed file types: doc, gif, jpg, mpg, pdf, png, txt, zip
Maximum attachment size allowed: 9000000 KB, per post: 4

Click on "Browse" and it will allow you to select a file from your computer to ATTACH to your message. If you want multiple attachments ( up to 4 per post ), click on "More Attachments" for each one you want to do.

When you are finished, POST the message . . . PRESTO !!!

Tight Lines !




Thanks for that, I have copied and saved it to my PC for future reference!


Mike.
Title: Re: removeing knobs from handles
Post by: ez2cdave on March 26, 2015, 09:56:35 PM
Quote from: Jerseymic on March 26, 2015, 04:11:37 PMThanks for that, I have copied and saved it to my PC for future reference!

Mike.

Mike,

Glad to help, Buddy ...

Tight Lines !!!