This took a lot of help from members here, but I managed to get it done! ;D
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Even with a brand new bridge, it has to be shimmed to take out the slop.
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A big Thanks to Randy Pauly of Vintage offshore Tackle for the Accurate 9/0 Clicker kit.
I really believe this was the last one on the planet for this build!
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Black Pearl ss Hex Drags with Delrin on the top and bottom.
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I just did a single ss dog. These plates are not mine. I don't feel comfortable grinding on them.
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Both plates ready. The clicker was a treat as well as the custom bearing holder made by Tom Hyrinuk.
The reel clamp came from him as well. His Last One.
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Truly a gold Masterpiece.
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Thank you Randy Pauly, Tom Hyrinuk, Paul Berinson and Dom for all your help.
Enjoy Your Pot o' Gold Ted! The Pleasure was all mine! ;)
That is a thing of beauty.
Nice job on that reel Daron, Ted should be very happy.
Sal
That is one sweet 9/0...Maybe to sweet to fish .
Cool
Nice reel Daron. Beautiful build!
Awesome! :o :o :o
A genuine objet d'art... but surely it will never be fished? ???
~A~
Beautiful job, Daron --
Some of those components are extremely rare...
What a great reel.
A reel that nice, strong, and well prepared -- needs to be used.
Otherwise, it will never prove its worth -- or earn its stripes.
Best,
Fred
Daron, what a thing of beauty.....You sir, are the master of your domain.
........and that 24ct gold spool is ridiculously cool. :o
Now Daron that's a masterpiece . ;D
Thanks Guys and Gals. Enjoy it Ted. I was beginning to have my doubt's on finding the parts to complete this. It couldn't have happened without all the great members on this site. ;D
great work, daron!
Quote from: alantani on March 02, 2015, 12:05:26 AM
great work, daron!
Yep! Daron has come a long way. Good job Daron. Dominick
As Keet's said " A thing of Beauty is a Joy Forever".
Joel8080
Daron
I told you last year that you were a Master of the Senator
Mike
Mike,
I learned everything I know from Sal. I am just Tiny Grasshoppa. ;D
That thing deserves a much better plinth than that white raggedy towel its sitting on!
Gorgeous!
Well done Daron!
Just paying if forward my Brothers! ;D
Daron,
The care and attention you put into a reel is beyond the limits of where most of us take them. Sal and Alan have been key to us as they have led us to thinking outside the box and getting things to work our way. I agree with the other members in saying that you have certainly come a long way and have motivated so many of us here to go that little bit further than we normally would. Not only do you make it look easy but you take us on your journey inside the reel with descriptive photos and a solid explanation. You're a modest guy with a big heart. Ted, now has a reel that he can be proud to use or display at his discretion knowing that you did all you can to make sure he had the best. What else can anyone ask for? Well done, pal. Also, I noticed the ring on the towel to prevent scratching that gem. That's what I mean by going a little further than most.
Ted, you have a hell of a reel that no one else has... Enjoy it!
PS- Good looking out Randy, Paul, and Tom For making this happen. Tom, I had to pass that bearing cap on
because this reel deserved it.
Only on AlanTani.com... I love it,
Dom
Is that spool gold plated as well or is it the gold reflection from the frame and sideplates?
The chrome was polished off Bryan. Then buffed out to make it look like Gold.
Another Member Did this.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 02, 2015, 05:49:19 PM
The chrome was polished off Bryan. Then buffed out to make it look like Gold.
Another Member Did this.
That's cool. Any pictures of that process? What compound and wheel was used?
Beautiful...just beautiful.
I'm pretty sure it was all done by hand. They asked to remain anonymous.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 02, 2015, 06:24:56 PM
I'm pretty sure it was all done by hand. They asked to remain anonymous.
I'm surprised, we usually don't keep secrets here, if we did, there wouldn't be anything going on :-\
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 02, 2015, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 02, 2015, 06:24:56 PM
I'm pretty sure it was all done by hand. They asked to remain anonymous.
I'm surprised, we usually don't keep secrets here, if we did, there wouldn't be anything going on :-\
I can understand...can you imagine...he will be getting requests from around the world to polish one thing or another.
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 02, 2015, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 02, 2015, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 02, 2015, 06:24:56 PM
I'm pretty sure it was all done by hand. They asked to remain anonymous.
I'm surprised, we usually don't keep secrets here, if we did, there wouldn't be anything going on :-\
I can understand...can you imagine...he will be getting requests from around the world to polish one thing or another.
You wouldn't be selling your washers if you didn't ask who could get it done ::).
By the way, I'm personally not interested in that spool, even though it looks nice.
Absolutely gorgeous reel, well done. hope we see more of that reel in the future.
a thing of beauty! do you believe in love at first sight?
Quote from: broadway on March 02, 2015, 05:09:37 AM
Daron,
The care and attention you put into a reel is beyond the limits of where most of us take them. Sal and Alan have been key to us as they have led us to thinking outside the box and getting things to work our way. I agree with the other members in saying that you have certainly come a long way and have motivated so many of us here to go that little bit further than we normally would. Not only do you make it look easy but you take us on your journey inside the reel with descriptive photos and a solid explanation. You're a modest guy with a big heart. Ted, now has a reel that he can be proud to use or display at his discretion knowing that you did all you can to make sure he had the best. What else can anyone ask for? Well done, pal. Also, I noticed the ring on the towel to prevent scratching that gem. That's what I mean by going a little further than most.
Ted, you have a hell of a reel that no one else has... Enjoy it!
PS- Good looking out Randy, Paul, and Tom For making this happen. Tom, I had to pass that bearing cap on
because this reel deserved it.Only on AlanTani.com... I love it,
Dom
I was wondering how that beating cup got in the picture! ;D
Daron,
I am in awe of this job. :o
There cannot be too many of this size Accurates left and seeing the amount of care and respect you gave the build simply floored me. You are a true craftsman in the vein of the old masters.
I suspect the spool was polished the same way I would polish a old vintage German Silver spool. You use a drill press, then use a block of wood with a hole drilled in it to match the spool shaft. Clamp the wood into a drill vice, then place the spool into the hole in the wood. Raise the table until you can chuck the other end of the spool shaft then easily spin the chuck by hand to center it all, then clamp the vice in place. You can now spin the spool for polishing. The wood will steady the spool while it is spinning.
Here is a spool from a Edward Vom Hofe 14/O. This reel is worth in the neighborhood of $2000 after restoration.
This is how it looked to begin with. It was originally a chrome plated spool with a base metal of German Silver:
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This is the spool sitting in the drill press vice, used to steady it during polishing:
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This is the finished product. To make it work you have to remove the chrome plating with about 400 grit paper, then move to finer grits until you are finishing with a 1200 grit paper. Then the polishing part begins with whatever you favorite metal polish happens to be. For me it is whatever is on sale. This is a very labor intensive project that could take hours.
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Being that the base metal of the Penn spool for the 9/O is more than likely brass, you wind up with a gold polished spool.
Thank You Michael. I can't ask for a higher praise than that. ;D
OK, lets try this>>
I am being blasted with snow today, so every couple of hours I have to go out and clean, otherwise I will be buried. Since I operate out of my garage, I figured between cleaning snow, I would polish an old Penn Model 113, one piece bronze chrome plated spool, after removing the chrome. I wanted to see how difficult this would be, I have done many antiques but not one of these.
So I start by setting up a jig in my drill press to get this project started. Not fancy but it works:
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Then I load in a one piece bronze spool 113 size and start spinning it and using wet or dry silicone-carbide 400 grit paper, with a bit of cutting oil to start the chrome removal process.
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This particular spool was being resistant to loosing its chrome in some spots so I uped the paper to 150 grit and the chrome came right off. :
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Once the chrome was off, I went back to the 400 grit and this was the first stage result:
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After the chrome removal process is done, you continue spinning the spool in the drill press jig but move to a finer grit paper:
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The 1200 grit paper beigns the polishing effect:
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The 4/O spool is the perfect size for my little polishing machine, so, using red Tripoli compound I start to polish the spool:
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The end result is a gold colored Penn spool:
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I am going to use this spool in a Penn / Neptuna 4/O rig. Now the spool and cradle colors will match. The entire process took about two hours.
That Spool reminds me of marine corps days shining up brass with brasso & rags.
We used to polish a large brass bell out in front of the barracks.I would
sneak a fine scotchbrite pad wrapped in a rag to speed up the process.
Great job Daron . Must be a nice change to work with all new ,clean parts from the start. The 9/0's are few and far between these days .
Good job on the spool Mike . Goes to show , you don't have to go to the big machine shops every time.
Cool tutorial, Mike!
You make it look easy, even though I'm sure it takes plenty of patience and time. You're right on when you said that you have to shovel every couple of hours... it just wouldn't quit. Our snow stopped about an hour ago, but not without dropping 6-7" of white crap on us. Stay well and warm you Noreasters!
I here that, Ray... nothing like doing a project by yourself to save dough, but most of all, we tinkerers get a lot of satisfaction out of doing it ourselves just because we can ;)
Thanks,
Dom
http://www.caswellplating.com/plug-n-plate-copy-chrome-kit.html
Sorry about stealing the thread for a bit. I thought the spool polishing process sort of related.
By the way, I polished the spool as a experiment and it worked out kind of good, so I wanted to use it. I wound up upgrading one of my cradle reels. I have a Neptuna 113 cradle that had an old beat up standard 4/O mounted in it, so I upgraded it to a Model 113H and used the gold spool because it matched the anodized gold color of the cradle. Not as dramatic as the fabulous Accurate 9/0, but better than letting the spool sit in the parts bin.
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Thanks for the idea Daron.
Quote from: Superhook on March 06, 2015, 12:01:22 AM
Great job Daron . Must be a nice change to work with all new ,clean parts from the start. The 9/0's are few and far between these days .
Good job on the spool Mike . Goes to show , you don't have to go to the big machine shops every time.
Ray,
I don't always deal with old parts. I really like to build one from new parts as well. Either way, They look new when it goes together.
That spool looks really Nice in that cradle Mike. I would at least wax it to prevent it from oxidizing so quick.
QuoteThat spool looks really Nice in that cradle Mike. I would at least wax it to prevent it from oxidizing so quick.
I did use an auto product on it. I think after I waxed it, it toned down the polishing. Anyways, I don't really mind things getting old looking, then they look like me. ;)
Wow and wow! Thanks for sharing both of these very cool creations.
I'm just wondering how I missed these posts. Great work Mike and thank you for sharing the process to our members.
I love the drill press trick, any damage from the 3 jaw chuck on the spool shaft?
I have a few spools that I will try this on.
Quote from: TechTeach on March 20, 2015, 06:22:35 PM
I love the drill press trick, any damage from the 3 jaw chuck on the spool shaft?
I have a few spools that I will try this on.
Putting the spool on a drill press with the line tie post spinning around is inviting possible catastrophy. Notice Mike pulled his line tie post, eliminating possible loss of fingertips. :D, a must if you do the drill press method.
Ted is right -- get rid of the line tie post either by pulling or cutting -- it isn't needed -- and it will spoil your day when polishing a spool using any sort of machine.
Everyone will have their own style of polishing a spool -- for me, I sort of do things backwards -- trying to make things simpler, safer, and quicker.
Since I have an assortment of 4 line winders -- the two largest I use for polishing spools. One handles up to a 6/0 -- the larger one handles larger reels.
Since I believe the safest place, if possible, to spin a spool -- is on the reel.
Here is my method:
Before breaking down the reel, oil the heck out of the tail and head plate oil ports.
Strip off the line
Attach the reel to the line winder
Using the foot control, clean the spool with "0000" steel wool very deeply and thoroughly
Then finish off with a few minutes of Never Dull
Now the spool is very clean and polished as deeply as you may want
Clean as normal all parts, using any method you prefer -- ultrasonic, Dawn, simple green, toothbrush, etc..
Reassemble, lube, adjust, tune
Lastly, put the completed reel back on the line winder -- do another treatment for about 4 minutes with Never Dull.
Finish the Polish job with a microfiber or soft flannel cloth
Best,
Fred
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Fred,
Good tip. I may have to wait on spool polishing/waxing until I've reassembled the reel, mounted it on my spooling machine and just prior to filling it with new line. I usually just do it slowly by hand with 0000 steel wool, and finish with carnuba wax, after a trip to the ultrasobic cleaner. I am going to give this one a try.