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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn 99/Jigmaster/SurfMaster/Squidder Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Marcq on March 09, 2015, 06:32:35 PM

Title: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 09, 2015, 06:32:35 PM
My setup

(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Marc1956/20150308_202301_zpse848eae4.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/Marc1956/media/20150308_202301_zpse848eae4.jpg.html)

All black project
(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Marc1956/20150309_112244_zpsd6e0fe93.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/Marc1956/media/20150309_112244_zpsd6e0fe93.jpg.html)

Waiting for SS gear sleeve to arrive

Marc..

Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Keta on March 09, 2015, 09:30:07 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: foakes on March 09, 2015, 10:11:36 PM
That looks really convenient, Marc --

What would one need for a set up like you have?

What components?  Where to obtain them?

Where is a source of supply for the powder coat?

How hard is it to do?

Does it turn out as well as a commercial job, or better?

Does the paint hold up well?

I have sent items out for PCing before -- but it is always a trip, expense, having to return, maybe losing small parts, etc..

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Tightlines667 on March 09, 2015, 10:31:42 PM
Cool looking setup.  What is the total investment costs?  & rough estimate of cost per reel and/or part?
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on March 09, 2015, 10:43:11 PM
Sounds like a lot of people want their own setup now!

Nice job!
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 09, 2015, 10:56:43 PM
Quote from: foakes on March 09, 2015, 10:11:36 PM
That looks really convenient, Marc --

What would one need for a set up like you have?

What components?  Where to obtain them?

Where is a source of supply for the powder coat?

How hard is it to do?

Does it turn out as well as a commercial job, or better?

Does the paint hold up well?

I have sent items out for PCing before -- but it is always a trip, expense, having to return, maybe losing small parts, etc..

Best,

Fred

Some of the stuff you may already have

Toaster oven(walmart/target)
Small compressor(I have a 3 gallon) set to 25/30psi
Powder coating system Chicago( bought it at harbor freight) $70 works really good
Coating boot, I made mine out of a home depot bucket
Little 4 gallon shop-vac, connected to the base of the coating boot with a filter(I used a face dust air filter)
Powder coat paint( harbor freight) $5.00 for 16oz but not to many color, ebay lots of color but double/triple the price. There's also Eastwood but never dealt with them
High temp masking tape, silicone plugs

That's about what you need. The process of powder coating is fairly easy but parts needs to be clean and roughed up especially when dealing with chrome plating parts you have to make those parts look dull. When coating I like 2 light coats, if the part as sharp edge 3

Hard to tell from the pic but the result is/ looks very professional, will try to take better pics later. The nice thing about powder coating, it's very resistant and easy to fix if something happens, can't say the same for chrome and anodizing  

Marc..



Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 09, 2015, 10:59:03 PM
Oh!! don't use your oven where you cook your food, you''ll get sick

And wear a mask even if your boot is equipped with an air filter

(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Marc1956/20150309_160618_zps6982cbb3.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/Marc1956/media/20150309_160618_zps6982cbb3.jpg.html)
Marc..

Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Tightlines667 on March 09, 2015, 11:29:44 PM
Noce looking results.  I wonder if Tiburon would be willing to sell unfinished/raw frames and spools?
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 10, 2015, 06:57:36 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on March 09, 2015, 11:29:44 PM
Noce looking results.  I wonder if Tiburon would be willing to sell unfinished/raw frames and spools?

If not Tiburon, maybe someone else. I have seen some interest on new frames for penn reels, powder coating uncoated parts/frame would be a piece of cake , it's the prep that's the more time consuming

Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 10, 2015, 07:11:45 AM
That kit works pretty good apparently, especially on small parts. And no compressor needed

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-Electric-Powder-Coat-Spray-Gun-Metal-Tin-Finisher-17288-car-boat-paint-/331237705568?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d1f4e4760
Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on March 10, 2015, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: Marcq on March 09, 2015, 10:59:03 PM
Oh!! don't use your oven where you cook your food, you''ll get sick

And wear a mask even if your boot is equipped with an air filter

(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Marc1956/20150309_160618_zps6982cbb3.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/Marc1956/media/20150309_160618_zps6982cbb3.jpg.html)
Marc..



That is a very nice jigmaster! I really like that matte coloring.
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Alto Mare on March 10, 2015, 12:04:48 PM
Very nice Marc, I  like the matte finish as well. That reel will look even sharper with black plates on.

Good job!

Sal
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: George4741 on March 11, 2015, 12:39:54 AM
Can you have a glossy finish, too?
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 11, 2015, 01:38:23 AM
Quote from: George4741 on March 11, 2015, 12:39:54 AM
Can you have a glossy finish, too?

Yes you can, but the problem with glossy finish with powder coating is orange peel, some pigment are more prone to it, on mat finish you don't see it. I had a hard time with the color red, after many attempts, I found a somewhat solution, bake it, shoot it, bake it, but often it's cause by heavy coats

I have a bridge that is glossy, I'll take pictures when it's light out

Thanks guys

Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Bryan Young on March 11, 2015, 02:10:16 PM
Very nice work Marc.

Yes, I can hear my wife now...what do you need that for?  How many parts will you powder coat...lalalalalala.
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 11, 2015, 07:22:23 PM
Thanks Bryan

It makes nice looking parts too
(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Marc1956/20150310_113608_zps1cadec11.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/Marc1956/media/20150310_113608_zps1cadec11.jpg.html)
(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Marc1956/20150311_121759_zps3a45a9d9.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/Marc1956/media/20150311_121759_zps3a45a9d9.jpg.html)

Not all black but almost

(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Marc1956/20150311_132454_zpsf25a1054.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/Marc1956/media/20150311_132454_zpsf25a1054.jpg.html)

(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Marc1956/20150311_132420_zpsf63ce55e.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/Marc1956/media/20150311_132420_zpsf63ce55e.jpg.html)

Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Mattman NZ on March 11, 2015, 08:34:41 PM
Excellent job on the Jig-master Marcq .
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 11, 2015, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: Mattman NZ on March 11, 2015, 08:34:41 PM
Excellent job on the Jig-master Marcq .

Thanks Mat!! But unfortunately my Monofil 27 just lost its job  :(

Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on March 11, 2015, 11:00:15 PM
Beautiful reel! Really makes it look like a much more modern reel and definitely a one of a kind!
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: thorhammer on March 11, 2015, 11:29:11 PM
if you think about it, you wouldnt restore your '67 Chevelle SS 396 without a new coat of orange block paint....why not pimp the bridge....

very nicely done...the stealth fighter of Jigmonsters
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 11, 2015, 11:31:01 PM
Quote from: fIsHsTiiCkS on March 11, 2015, 11:00:15 PM
Beautiful reel! Really makes it look like a much more modern reel and definitely a one of a kind!

Thanks, it turned out better then expected, SS gear sleeve, steel gear, alan t SS arm, later! Bryan's drag, Pro Challenger double dog bridge

Hope it will see lots of sand

Was wondering, maybe a little color(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Marc1956/20150311_162023_zps1682b2ae.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/Marc1956/media/20150311_162023_zps1682b2ae.jpg.html)

(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Marc1956/20150311_171858_zpsbea49457.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/Marc1956/media/20150311_171858_zpsbea49457.jpg.html)
Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Wally15 on March 11, 2015, 11:31:35 PM
I'm still partial to napalm....with a piquant undertone of Agent Orange and rotting vegetation.

Nice job(s) on the PC.
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 11, 2015, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on March 11, 2015, 11:29:11 PM
if you think about it, you wouldnt restore your '67 Chevelle SS 396 without a new coat of orange block paint....why not pimp the bridge....

very nicely done...the stealth fighter of Jigmonsters

I was thinking the same, reminds me of the old days making our engine compartment all nice and shiny  :)


Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 11, 2015, 11:36:06 PM
Quote from: Wally15 on March 11, 2015, 11:31:35 PM
I'm still partial to napalm....with a piquant undertone of Agent Orange and rotting vegetation.

Nice job(s) on the PC.
:D :D :D

Thanks, Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: thorhammer on March 12, 2015, 01:30:08 AM
I was in the garage looking around this weekend and asked the wife....."so, which one of those two toaster ovens we dont use is the crappiest....just saying....."
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: thorhammer on March 12, 2015, 01:37:32 AM
and yet again behind the curveball.....i just got a line on SS screws from Aiala and Daron to pimp my ride and here we go color coded.... Wife is not gonna be happy with rod thread bill to match all this reel art. But I am from Ruff n Tuff generation....jeans had a color coded  tag thing to your shirt so you presumably wouldnt walk out mismatched like an idiot....I think this was garanimals later....forgive my soapbox but you wouldnt put red diamond tuck in your orange Challenger would you?
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Socal399 on March 12, 2015, 02:45:54 AM
Man that looks great! Saw your post on scsurffishing as well! Love the matte black look!
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Dominick on March 12, 2015, 04:33:32 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 11, 2015, 02:10:16 PM
Very nice work Marc.

Yes, I can hear my wife now...what do you need that for?  How many parts will you powder coat...lalalalalala.
What does that have to do with wanting one?   ;) Dominick
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 12, 2015, 04:58:03 AM
Fantastic Job on that reel Marc! Never been a fan of the Black Frames, but you are changing my mind. ;)
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on March 12, 2015, 07:39:07 AM
Thanks guys  8)

Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 12, 2015, 04:58:03 AM
Fantastic Job on that reel Marc! Never been a fan of the Black Frames, but you are changing my mind. ;)
Me ether, the only color I can stand is silver, goes well with chrome and whatever colored reel. I was supposed to powder coat the space bar and foot that came with the reel but saw this nice Tiburon frame in glossy black, I thought it would match well with the flat black of the rings and the rest
I wonder how it would look in flat red and shiny red?

I want a 140 black to do the same

Thanks, Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: otghoyt on April 20, 2015, 12:08:09 AM
Oooh, ooh.  Me need some!  I was cruisin the net and found plastic powder coat that you can use on the end plates.  Here they are... .

http://www.wrightcoating.com/specialty-coatings/processes/classickote

I actually have some rings, free spool lever and a crank getting rainbow chromed over in Phoenix.  Crazy gas on water looking chrome for 60 bucks.  I also want to de-anodize (simple green 2 days) some Newell SP-6 bars and buff 'em out to look like the new satin stainless pieces out there.

I dig the orange screws.  Maybe some orange finger nail polish in the Tiburon etching on front for a little color balance.  A rag with acetone fixes sloppage.

I like and use a many of those 3 hole Penn cranks.  Did you remove the handle from the crank or did you cook it when you fired the paint?  If you removed it..how did you do it and get it back on?
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on April 20, 2015, 01:45:29 AM
Marc. I have some stuff need you to power coat for me  ;D
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on April 20, 2015, 03:35:59 AM
Quote from: fIsHsTiiCkS on April 20, 2015, 01:45:29 AM
Marc. I have some stuff need you to power coat for me  ;D

Well!! You have the choice, white, red, mat black and yellow  8)

Marc.. :)
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on April 20, 2015, 03:42:39 AM
Quote from: WOTHoyt on April 20, 2015, 12:08:09 AM

I like and use a many of those 3 hole Penn cranks.  Did you remove the handle from the crank or did you cook it when you fired the paint?  If you removed it..how did you do it and get it back on?


That's an Alan T SS crank arm, the knob from a Squall and hardware from another power handle

Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on April 20, 2015, 04:33:59 AM
Dont tempt me Marc. I have a few things I would love to get done in the matte black
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on April 20, 2015, 05:42:41 AM
Quote from: fIsHsTiiCkS on April 20, 2015, 04:33:59 AM
Dont tempt me Marc. I have a few things I would love to get done in the matte black

What kind of parts?

Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Rancanfish on April 20, 2015, 08:42:04 PM
I've done powder coated jig heads by the hot dip method.  I had to hang them up without the color part touching anything.  So....

How do you electrostatically charge a small screw or other small part?
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Marcq on April 20, 2015, 09:31:40 PM
Quote from: Rancanfish on April 20, 2015, 08:42:04 PM
How do you electrostatically charge a small screw or other small part?

For screws I use a metal strip with holes in it that's the same  length of the tray that comes with the toaster oven, for small parts with at least a hole I use a metal hook

(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Marc1956/20150420_142900_zps3pv9igza.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/Marc1956/media/20150420_142900_zps3pv9igza.jpg.html)

Marc..
Title: Re: Love the smell of powder coating in the morning
Post by: Rancanfish on April 20, 2015, 09:48:30 PM
Ahh, pretty straight forward, thanks.