What do you guys think of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkJClDHtTsA
Seems like a good product, Joey --
There are some specialty pliers made for this purpose also -- maybe Boca?, or others?
I generally just punch out my pins -- but that is in the case of a gear sleeve, or handle pivot on a spinner.
On these spool axles, when removing a pin to change out a bearing and clean things up -- the right tool will not do any damage when used properly.
I wonder how these would work on roll pins?
Thanks for sharing.
Best,
Fred
Had to buy one myself after using a friends for a while on and off.. Cheaper to buy from Hedgehog Studios than off say eBay.
I remember there being one made entirely from Stainless Steel and that was their HD version. This type 2 is just another reincarnation of their original pin pusher.
Definitely a tool that you must have in your reel tool box! And while your at it grab a few spare spool shaft pins just in case.
interesting little tool for sure Doug
These are what I use instead of pliers. I get a pop when the pin lets go! They make one out of stainles steel called the toughie it is silver. The blue is aluminum and some time the threads get worked with a lot if use!
Blessings,
Wally
Alrighty guys, my pin pusher came today from Hedgehog. I was all excited as I had a few other goodies with it.
Now the handle nut tool, excellent quality and beautifully made.
The Pin pusher well... ahh... err... already stuffed!
Used it for one pin on a Daiwa Zillion 100HA... The pin point is too soft and it bent pushing the pin out - I also had some oil at the base of the pin let soak so that it would push through easier... You could see the pin flex as you screwed it down, and look at the head of the pin...
Anyhow emailed Hedgehog and wanting to send them the pictures - not good for a $40 tool and on the first use... This will be something that I'll be using near every day or so also...
SS is not the best material for this, tool steel, or inconel if corrosion is a problem, would be much better.
Quote from: Keta on April 20, 2015, 03:05:49 PM
SS is not the best material for this, tool steel, or inconel if corrosion is a problem, would be much better.
Yeh I believe that this is a wasted purchase - fingers crossed for the guarantee... Maybe the Boca bearings pin pushing pliers are better?
Anyone had any experience with those?
Alan Tani and I both have modified pliers that do this job very well. Just look up our posts. Nothing fancy, just works like a charm.
Leo
PS And as Keta says "tool steel is best" and these pliers are made of tool steel.
Quote from: LTM on April 20, 2015, 03:19:25 PMAlan Tani and I both have modified pliers that do this job very well.
I too made some pliers to push the pins as shown on other posts however once the pin becomes flush with the spool shaft, pushing it all the way through becomes impossible - I dont have nor will use a punch due to the fact spool shafts are so fragile on the BFS type spools I work with.
I also cant pull the pin out as that damages the pins outer - have tried that and its a 'no no'. That would mean I would have to buy pins all the time and for 3 pins thats $7US + $9US postage from Japanland.
Once the pin moves and is flush with the shaft you can use a "anvil" with a hole in it and a punch to finish the job. Make sure the shaft is in full contact with the anvil or you will be replacing the shaft or entire spool....I know this by experience.
I just had a flash of semi brilliance....or not. A reloading die primer punch could probably be used to make a better pin pusher and the primer punch pins are replaceable. I'll try to dig up the parts today and see.
Check with Bryan maybe he has one of Reel Speed's Pin Pliers kicking around.
Mike
I think Dawn (SmoothDrag has ReelSpeed's Bearing Pin remover tool. I'll post a pick when I get a chance.
Quote from: Keta on April 20, 2015, 03:38:34 PM
I just had a flash of semi brilliance....or not. A reloading die primer punch could probably be used to make a better pin pusher and the primer punch pins are replaceable. I'll try to dig up the parts today and see.
Lee,
Please respond back with your findings. This idea has my wheels turning as well.
Leo
Hey Slazmo.
The HH tool has a larger pin on one side, that is to be used to get the spool pin moving until it is flush with the shaft. Then you need to reverse the tool pin, and use the smaller pin to push through.
I use this tool on most Daiwa and Abu baitcasters, but prefer the Boka pliers on Shimano. They are easier and quicker to use. The tool that Dawn sells looks great, and is on my list of to buy, with my next order.
Sucks when something fails. HH are great people and will help you out I'm sure.
Cheers mate.
Terry.
Boca pliers for me - Very well made.
Quote from: Zimbass on April 21, 2015, 03:42:21 AM
Hey Slazmo.
The HH tool has a larger pin on one side, that is to be used to get the spool pin moving until it is flush with the shaft. Then you need to reverse the tool pin, and use the smaller pin to push through.
I use this tool on most Daiwa and Abu baitcasters, but prefer the Boka pliers on Shimano. They are easier and quicker to use. The tool that Dawn sells looks great, and is on my list of to buy, with my next order.
Sucks when something fails. HH are great people and will help you out I'm sure.
Cheers mate.
Terry.
Hey Terry,
Yeh read the "Engrish" instructions and also watched the HH Studios youtube vid on how to use the tool. Mind you for what its worth I was very careful with the tool due to its value and it still farped out.
Severely disappoint! Should have a stringer pin in it not made of Stainless Steel as some have mentioned... also the pin doesnt need to be anywhere near as long or thin.
Andrew
Quote from: Zimbass on April 21, 2015, 03:42:21 AM
Hey Slazmo.
The HH tool has a larger pin on one side, that is to be used to get the spool pin moving until it is flush with the shaft. Then you need to reverse the tool pin, and use the smaller pin to push through.
I use this tool on most Daiwa and Abu baitcasters, but prefer the Boka pliers on Shimano. They are easier and quicker to use. The tool that Dawn sells looks great, and is on my list of to buy, with my next order.
Sucks when something fails. HH are great people and will help you out I'm sure.
Cheers mate.
Terry.
^^^^ this.
The wrong end was used to start the pin?
Sounds to me like Slazmo read the instructions and did it right.
Joey, do you need a spool pin removal tool? I may have a boca bearings one that you could have (if I can find it).
Quote from: Keta on April 21, 2015, 03:24:24 PM
Sounds to me like Slazmo read the instructions and did it right.
I guess I am just shocked that the tool would bend if the pin is already flush with the spool shaft?
I was *just* about to order one of these too to have a compact tool for my Plano box kit for going LR....:(
It did seem odd and the tool was on my list too.
I am thinking my Arbor press should be able to handle any stuck or small spool shaft pins handily. Those Boca pliers do look nice though.
A drill press may work also as long as the spool shaft is supported.
Someone here could make a support that cradles the shaft and has a hole through it to allow the pin to pass through. Trying to pull the pin is pointless as the pin doesnt pass enough - damaged the end (pulling end) of the OEM pin that I managed to push through when I tried to pull it out.
The pin is just not strong enough. Yes followed all instructions and the top of the pin wasnt mushroomed or anything if anyone is asking. Stainless steel isnt a good medium on this kind of tool...
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 21, 2015, 10:33:29 PM
A drill press may work also as long as the spool shaft is supported.
Goint point, the shaft would need a good cradle. Shafys can and do get bent, and the metal is soft enough to mushroom. In otherowrds refrain from using a hammer.
Hey guys,
Great response from Mr Akira from Hedgehog Studios. Sent a email and some of the pictures that I put up here and he has sent two more T Bars in good faith, if there are any issues in the future he is willing to look into it and go from there.
A+ service from Hedgehog Studios!
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 21, 2015, 03:46:22 PM
Joey, do you need a spool pin removal tool? I may have a boca bearings one that you could have (if I can find it).
Bryan,
What do you use to remove spool pins?
Leo
Quote from: Slazmo on April 24, 2015, 09:16:46 AM
Hey guys,
Great response from Mr Akira from Hedgehog Studios. Sent a email and some of the pictures that I put up here and he has sent two more T Bars in good faith, if there are any issues in the future he is willing to look into it and go from there.
A+ service from Hedgehog Studios!
Good to hear Andrew. That Akira Kato is a great asset to the business. Glad they took care of you.
Quote from: LTM on April 24, 2015, 09:21:51 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 21, 2015, 03:46:22 PM
Joey, do you need a spool pin removal tool? I may have a boca bearings one that you could have (if I can find it).
Bryan,
What do you use to remove spool pins?
Leo
Hi Leo
I use
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2925-c63PCI&feature=player_embedded
or
(http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n503/ReelSpeed/AA31F6CA-C085-4462-95A2-1FDB0DA22B0C-5978-000002DDC8555954.jpg)
I know Boca still has them but not sure about ReelSpeed because I don't see them on SmoothDrag.com
Bryan
A update for you all...
Hedgehog and in particular Mr Akira Kato sent me out a replacement for the original pin pusher T screw... The guy is a absolute champion!
Pictures tell the story. The new improved design is a monster in comparison to the original piece, machined from one piece of metal - the pin is not inserted but one whole piece thank god (whoever may be listening at the time of preaching)!
To the pictures...
Now I'm jealous Andrew as I got the old one, albeit not bent !!
Happy for you mate.
Terry.
Quote from: Zimbass on April 29, 2015, 01:18:30 PM
Now I'm jealous Andrew as I got the old one, albeit not bent !!
Happy for you mate.
Terry.
If it ever bends I would speak to Akira from Hedgehog. Very good service as people have mentioned prior!
Andrew