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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Capt. ahab on April 12, 2015, 10:08:47 PM

Title: Stuck freespool lever on 114h tank
Post by: Capt. ahab on April 12, 2015, 10:08:47 PM
I'm deep into my 4 senator upgrades, and I have run into a problem. The freespool lever stops just before reaching the freespool position. I almost have to force it back to freespool, but I'm afraid of breaking something. When the side plate is detached, it will go into freespool if I help it by pushing in the pinion gear.

I read somewhere that the stainless yoke will hang up, and that you must install it with the smoother side up. Tried it, and improvement was marginal. I can get it into freespool, but only about 75% of the time. There are still hang-ups where it just won't go all the way back.

Is it ok to use the original brass yoke with steel gears? Will I run into wear issues with the two different metals rubbing against each other?  Is the stainless pinion really necessary?
Title: Re: Stuck freespool lever on 114h tank
Post by: Shark Hunter on April 12, 2015, 10:18:52 PM
Captain,
You need to smooth the tabs of the jack where the yoke rides. I have found if I don't do this, it will hang up, just as you are describing.
Title: Re: Stuck freespool lever on 114h tank
Post by: foakes on April 13, 2015, 12:37:44 AM
Hi Captain --

Daron is more than likely -- exactly right about the tabs on the jack.

Another easy check is the eccentric spring being perhaps bent in a wrong position or warped out of shape somehow.

This can be easily verified if it is a problem -- by operating the free spool lever with the sideplate off of the reel.

If it operates properly, then it is the jack tabs.

Good luck,

Fred
Title: Re: Stuck freespool lever on 114h tank
Post by: Capt. ahab on April 13, 2015, 01:09:28 AM
Do I hit them with a file or brush with steel wool or something like that?
Title: Re: Stuck freespool lever on 114h tank
Post by: Alto Mare on April 13, 2015, 01:15:39 AM
The yoke is stamped, make sure the side with the eased edges is facing up,  see if that helps any.
Title: Re: Stuck freespool lever on 114h tank
Post by: foakes on April 13, 2015, 01:20:14 AM
A fine file will do -- just take it easy, until you get it just right when dry -- then plenty of good grease will do the trick.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Stuck freespool lever on 114h tank
Post by: Alto Mare on April 13, 2015, 01:37:39 AM
Thomas, you got a bunch of good suggestions from the guys above, if all fails, try some steel wool on the spool shaft and clean the inner side of the pinion as well.
Title: Re: Stuck freespool lever on 114h tank
Post by: Shark Hunter on April 13, 2015, 08:19:26 AM
Quote from: Capt. ahab on April 13, 2015, 01:09:28 AM
Do I hit them with a file or brush with steel wool or something like that?
I just use emery cloth. A piece of fine sandpaper.
Title: Re: Stuck freespool lever on 114h tank
Post by: Keta on April 13, 2015, 02:09:11 PM
Sometimes the end of the eccentric spring 20-114 is too long and can also cause problems if it sticks out of the eccentric too far.