is this normal on stock bearings? should i still get abec? they are without any lube and i donbt know if i should lube them https://vid.me/Z95P
Quote from: bestout on April 15, 2015, 10:23:41 PM
is this normal on stock bearings? should i still get abec? they are without any lube and i donbt know if i should lube them https://vid.me/Z95P
yes you should lube them. Generally the concept is *protection first* then other considerations. There is nothing wrong with those bearings obviously, but you should protect them with an oil of your choice or grease if you want max protection.
I like Squidders. They are great and fun little reels.
Almost sounds like clicker metal making that sound. A bind would reflect in the amount of freespool spin time and you have some serious freespool spin time there. Take a look at the Penn bearing shields in the cups. See if one isn't sitting flat as it should within the bearing cup. May be tagging the the clicker gear on the shaft.
Some of the guys here just take the Penn bearing shields out and toss 'em. Personally I take the factory shields off the bearing itself and dry lube them then re-install, shield-less using the Penn supplied shield that drop into the cup on top of the bearing. I also use lighter spools than the factory bronze/chrome Penn spools and I don't get near your spin time...but... It is about the ease which the spool starts to spin as the cast begins that equates into distance. Quite often, just the inherent difficulty of getting a heavy spool to begin to spin causes instant birds nest.
To each his own and good luck,
Hoyt
Forgot to mention i took the shields of to get that amount of freespool they are just without lube
Did you take the shield off the stock bearings? :-\
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 18, 2015, 05:40:31 PM
Did you take the shield off the stock bearings? :-\
Well 3 shields and the 4th one got jam i might think of getting new bearings
I didn't think those came off :-\.
Alan shows a pry-off method on his Squidder tutorial. He also says how easy it to turn them into junk doing this.
Quote from: WOTHoyt on April 19, 2015, 02:14:19 AM
Alan shows a pry-off method on his Squidder tutorial. He also says how easy it to turn them into junk doing this.
luckily they still good :D
He even shows a little tool he made to get under the shield and pop it out...........
"to remove a metal shield that is pressed into the bearing, you need another specialized tool. this is an old screwdriver that i've ground to a nice long point. drive the point in between the shield and the inner race, the pry up the shield. it will be mangled at this point and will have to be discarded. this takes a light touch. drive the point in to far and you will mangle the cage and ruin the bearings. i tried using the point of a small swiss army knife for a bunch of small boca bearings and ruined the entire lot, about $100's worth. be careful!"
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13.0
About half way down
Yup, you're right, the shields come right off
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/004_19.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/004_19.jpg.html)
They're only 1/16 wide, I didn't think they would. Using a hook, they come right off
I thought Alan was showing different bearings. He's always one up on us, that's why he's the boss ;D.
On larger bearings,you might want to give these a shot. No hammer, just a little pressure
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=1971.msg10129#msg10129
Those should be safer to use.
Sal
Yup i used a hook and i got pinched couple of times but was worth it now am just waiting on the other parts to arrive to test my distance.
I was impressed i got more freespool than my avet with sealed bearing.
The bearings I'm showing above feel much better than most...don't ask me why, I don't know.
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 19, 2015, 04:46:33 AM
The bearings I'm showing above feel much better than most...don't ask me why, I don't know.
I soaked mines overnight on your secret green formula and they camw out like this with more freespool jejejeje 8).
http://imgur.com/iuNyG6W
http://imgur.com/lVCvK1r
Hey yooo guys! I like the hook method and it worked for me as well. Thanks for bustin open your squidder to show me how. I didn't feel like grinding a screw driver but the hook worked perfect. Now my cast timing needs some practice. I am going out this coming Teusday for Cali Yellowtail and that's my first go-to rig.
As long as you are monitoring this string...what are the McMasters numbers on stainless flat head screws for a jigmaster handle side ring for the posts? Or remind me of where the tank lesson where you shared that information. I can't find it.
Quote from: WOTHoyt on April 19, 2015, 10:53:13 PM
Hey yooo guys! I like the hook method and it worked for me as well. Thanks for bustin open your squidder to show me how. I didn't feel like grinding a screw driver but the hook worked perfect. Now my cast timing needs some practice. I am going out this coming Teusday for Cali Yellowtail and that's my first go-to rig.
As long as you are monitoring this string...what are the McMasters numbers on stainless flat head screws for a jigmaster handle side ring for the posts? Or remind me of where the tank lesson where you shared that information. I can't find it.
yup its alot of freespool time without the shields but am afraid ill get soo many birdsnest ohh well
Quote from: bestout on April 19, 2015, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: WOTHoyt on April 19, 2015, 10:53:13 PM
Hey yooo guys! I like the hook method and it worked for me as well. Thanks for bustin open your squidder to show me how. I didn't feel like grinding a screw driver but the hook worked perfect. Now my cast timing needs some practice. I am going out this coming Teusday for Cali Yellowtail and that's my first go-to rig.
As long as you are monitoring this string...what are the McMasters numbers on stainless flat head screws for a jigmaster handle side ring for the posts? Or remind me of where the tank lesson where you shared that information. I can't find it.
yup its alot of freespool time without the shields but am afraid ill get soo many birdsnest ohh well
WOTHoyt, I believe these are it:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#91771A124
If you're using a Tiburon frame, I would get 1/2" in length, i you're not, you might still need to file down the 1/4" screw a little, but you could probably get away as is.
Bestout, if it gets out of hand, try these ;D :
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=6391.msg116512#msg116512
Sal
That's awesome! Thanks for the legwork.
I am using a used Newell graphite seat/clamp and like to use longish screws to keep things square and tight. I'll be able to find them from the page you pasted for me. The Newell graphite seat/clamps are lower on the pole than the aluminum versions. They help me a lot because I got me sum stubby, sausage lookin, nubbinses for fingers and it just makes life easier. Besides level winds are for kids and women.
Hoyt
Sal, aluminum is non magnetic, but is does interact with magnets. I wonder if the spinning spool has what they call the Lenz Effect or if the magnets are slowing down the clicker gear ? I like it and may have to try this on one of my jigmasters ;D
Big Tim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9DaKP2PhL4
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 20, 2015, 12:03:21 AM
Quote from: bestout on April 19, 2015, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: WOTHoyt on April 19, 2015, 10:53:13 PM
Hey yooo guys! I like the hook method and it worked for me as well. Thanks for bustin open your squidder to show me how. I didn't feel like grinding a screw driver but the hook worked perfect. Now my cast timing needs some practice. I am going out this coming Teusday for Cali Yellowtail and that's my first go-to rig.
As long as you are monitoring this string...what are the McMasters numbers on stainless flat head screws for a jigmaster handle side ring for the posts? Or remind me of where the tank lesson where you shared that information. I can't find it.
yup its alot of freespool time without the shields but am afraid ill get soo many birdsnest ohh well
WOTHoyt, I believe these are it:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#91771A124
If you're using a Tiburon frame, I would get 1/2" in length, i you're not, you might still need to file down the 1/4" screw a little, but you could probably get away as is.
Bestout, if it gets out of hand, try these ;D :
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=6391.msg116512#msg116512
Sal
This is a great idea thank you