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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn => Topic started by: bestout on May 03, 2015, 02:37:13 AM

Title: need help with 712z
Post by: bestout on May 03, 2015, 02:37:13 AM
my 712z 62A-716  screw has so much play its coming in and out. is there a way i can fix this?
Title: Re: need help with 712z
Post by: johndtuttle on May 04, 2015, 04:57:18 PM
If the receptacle is stripped then you can try a strip or two of copper to try and tighten it up...or retap it and replace the screw with one larger.
Title: Re: need help with 712z
Post by: foakes on May 04, 2015, 06:58:22 PM
Like John sez --

Copper will work if the aluminum body hole is enlarged or stripped.

If you are lucky, and it is just the screw stripped -- then you can replace the screw, if the body threads are not jacked up -- but aluminum will strip before that screw -- so it is likely the body screw hole stripped and enlarged.

If you can make a pocket with the copper -- then get a tight fit, then just trim off the copper excess -- your fine.

Since that is a dog screw -- it requires a special screw with a smooth shoulder arbor for the dog to operate smoothly -- and one drop of oil.  So likely just going to a larger screw would entail modifying the dog, etc.  Try the copper -- it will work just fine.  If you don't have thin copper laying around -- just use a Penn copper flat dog spring.

Good luck,

Fred
Title: Re: need help with 712z
Post by: bestout on May 04, 2015, 07:05:25 PM
Thanks for the reply. i have added 5min epoxy on the screw hole and untill now seems fine. If it doesnt end up working how does that strip of copper works. am lost there.
Title: Re: need help with 712z
Post by: johndtuttle on May 04, 2015, 08:09:14 PM
Quote from: bestout on May 04, 2015, 07:05:25 PM
Thanks for the reply. i have added 5min epoxy on the screw hole and untill now seems fine. If it doesnt end up working how does that strip of copper works. am lost there.

What you do is insert the strip so that one end is in the bottom of the hole the other sticking out. Start the screw and the softness of the copper allows it to mold into the threads and shim it a little. Once the screw is well started you can trim off the excess as best you can then tighten it down.
Title: Re: need help with 712z
Post by: bestout on May 04, 2015, 08:12:17 PM
where can i find strips of copper :D
Title: Re: need help with 712z
Post by: Doug on May 04, 2015, 08:28:42 PM
I am by no means an expert but the  stud that the ar dog mounts to appears to be a different material than the soft aluminum housing. In other words that stud is a staked in or screwed in after the housing is molded. I can't tell if its ss steel but it is stronger than the soft aluminum of the housing. I would suspect the screw may be NG first. If not then some how the stud threads are stripped and a copper strip will work All the 700 and the 430ss and 420ss appear to have been built the same way , If you look at the handle side of the reel housing you can see a small round detent just above the ar shut off lever that's the bottom of the ar mounting stud again I don't know what material it is but it would make sense its something stronger than cast aluminum considering the stress that is applied to it
Title: Re: need help with 712z
Post by: Marcq on May 04, 2015, 08:36:43 PM
I have used J-B Weld in the past and still use it for stuff like that. Good stuff

Marc..
Title: Re: need help with 712z
Post by: Doug on May 04, 2015, 09:18:05 PM
a copper strip is used as a dog spring in some reels like the surfmaster  reels 200 150 or 100 use the same copper strip
Title: Re: need help with 712z
Post by: bestout on May 04, 2015, 09:23:16 PM
Quote from: Doug on May 04, 2015, 09:18:05 PM
a copper strip is used as a dog spring in some reels like the surfmaster  reels 200 150 or 100 use the same copper strip
OOHH now i get what the copper strip is. thats not a bad idea. for now the epoxy its holding i just spooled the reel completely.