Which is easier to maintain, spinning or conventional ?
Marc..
Conventional by a US country mile!!!
Spinning reels take a lot more time to do especially those with worm driven oscillation. Just did a Stella 3000 FE today and it was nightmare material... Not because of complexity but the amount of cleaning of someone elses stuff up...
Baitcasters over spinning for ease of maintenance for sure!
Quote from: Slazmo on May 05, 2015, 10:24:42 AM
Spinning reels take a lot more time to do especially those with worm driven oscillation. Just did a Stella 3000 FE today and it was nightmare material... Not because of complexity but the amount of cleaning of someone elses stuff up...
But witch one is more prone to needing a good clean up, the spinner or the conventional? The spinner may be more complicated but if it requires half the maintenance ???
Marc..
That is a loaded question as reels can vary greatly based on age and manufacturer. Also, how comfortable you are with said type of reel.
With that said, my opinion is that a conventional star drag reel is the easiest to maintain and if maintained well can last a season, based on average use, with out needing to be stripped down again. After that, I would say a Lever drag and spinning reel are pretty close, esp. some 2 speeds.
I'm not sure I agree with either of the opinions, but probably with less repair experience then the two previous members. My opinion is based more on the age of reels that I own, and in that case I have both types that are of equal use and age, I would say that both types are equal in my opinion as far as maintenance is concerned. Neglecting either one will result in failure if unattended long enough....but there again I have seen the reels I have that are spinning go a very long time without ever being touched and still work just fine, same goes for the conventional. It also depends on the conditions and how the reels are treated,(ie-droped in the sand and not flushed with fresh water after use). That can lead to trouble in any reel. For fishing larger species of fish, hands down I would choose the conventional reel.
both are easy, the big thing is the manufacture, some reels are a cinch and some a nightmare. don't abuse them, rinse them off after every use and you'll probably get a full season with no problem. i like the older spinners with the springs that flip the bail wire. older penns, mitchells and the zebco cardinals are easy, a big thing is parts availability, so you can repair and maintain your reels, otherwise you toss them. just my opinion.
Spinners are like helicopters, too many moving parts.
Quote from: Keta on May 05, 2015, 01:34:54 PM
Spinners are like helicopters, too many moving parts.
Good point on helis, they are constantly trying to shake themselves apart as soon as they leave the ground.That said. They saved a lot of lives in Nam!!
They did. I like riding in them but my family members that work on them tell me I'm crazy.
Quote from: Keta on May 05, 2015, 02:34:12 PM
They did. I like riding in them but my family members that work on them tell me I'm crazy.
Could they be right? inquiring minds want to know. ;D
I agree, there's some spinners out there that I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole but I could take a penn 710 apart and back together with my eyes close, and have a penn 940 that I don't use in a salt environment anymore because it's a pain in the neck to work on
I think water intrusion is greater on a conventional then a spinner
Marc..
Quote from: Keta on May 05, 2015, 01:34:54 PMSpinners are like helicopters, too many moving parts.
Didnt those old Bell Huey UH-1's have a main rotor nut that was affectionately known as a "jesus nut" for "jesus couldnt help you if it ever came loose"?...
Same thing on Spinners in my eye's, had that Stella FE and all 3 side plate screws were loose and the rotor head nut was also finger tight. If someone doesnt know what they're doing it just causes heartache and future problems. :-\
Depends on the reel...
For every Jigmaster there is a 704z that is equally simple...and as enduring.
But the modern conveniences of bearings and such have made even cheap reels remarkably complex.
But nothing is worse than a Stella for a "seal held by a retainer that requires 10 parts to be removed before it can be taken out" that just don't compare to any conventional though some Accurates come close.
Learned to fish with spinning reels when I was a kid & have loved them ever since. It just comes down to personal preference, if we all liked the same stuff there wouldn't be enough to go around....
Rgds
Mark
Quote from: Keta on May 05, 2015, 01:34:54 PM
Spinners are like helicopters, too many moving parts.
Back in my Army flying days, we had a saying, "50,000 moving parts - all made by the lowest bidder".
At Mexico Beach, FL for a few weeks (near Panama City in the Panhandle). Met and went fishing with fellow forum member JoePlo on Sunday. Had a great time, caught a few fish. We both got broke off a bunch by the reef donkeys.
I reloaded and regrouped, so I'm going back out again today. Prepping for the June SOA.
Dang, it takes a whole lot of this to hurt me!
Mike
Back in my Army flying days, we had a saying, "50,000 moving parts - all made by the lowest bidder".[/quote]
and....
-if nothing is broken on your helo, just wait, it's about to.
-they don't fly, they beat the air into submission.
-never fly anything where the wings move faster than the fuse.
etc. etc
But on the bright side, you usually can crash at a lower speed, and all the fast moving bits fly away leaving you safe and bewildered in the middle of the carnage :D
Depends; the SS spinners, battles, and slammers are all really easy. The Shimano spinners can be a pain, especially for the older ones that they no longer make parts for. The baitrunner is, in my opinion, the biggest headache to fully take apart. The Penn conventionals are easy for the most part. I haven't opened my new fathom yet though so I can't comment on that. My Tlds and Diawa Saltist are pretty easy. Abus aren't bad.
In terms of simplicity and longevity, I like the Daiwa Saltist, Penn Senator, Penn SS + slammer.
The ones that give me the biggest headache are really cheap Shimano spinning reels with junk anti-reverse systems, all baitrunners (especially the D), and the tiny high end Shimano spinning reels with tons of little parts.
In general, I find star drag reels easier to maintain. I also, for the most part, prefer single speed reels. I do love my nicer Shimano spinners but I'm of the mindset that simpler is better.
Something that hasn't been mentioned here yet. Spinning reels IMO have always been the reel of choice for casting plugs and light lures, and conventionals for casting bait or drop fishing on the bottom. Now that there are mag reels the lighter conventionals are preferred in most cases for there power.
But since the question is which is easier to maintain, I think that was answered earlier. I personally don't mind working on either of the reels I have.
Quote from: fatstriper on May 06, 2015, 05:04:12 PMThe baitrunner is, in my opinion, the biggest headache to fully take apart. The Penn conventionals are easy for the most part.
There are a few parts to the Baitrunners however I like working on them - bit of a finger twister game however a challenge!
Good point on helis, they are constantly trying to shake themselves apart as soon as they leave the ground.That said. They saved a lot of lives in Nam!!
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My Brother in law David flew a Huey in Viet Nam. Never talks about it at all.
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 06, 2015, 11:11:38 PM
Good point on helis, they are constantly trying to shake themselves apart as soon as they leave the ground.That said. They saved a lot of lives in Nam!!
My Brother in law David flew a Huey in Viet Nam. Never talks about it at all.
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My wife and i have a friend that was a chopper pilot in Vietnam also and he had some hairy moments, but not because of the aircraft more so the enemy trying to shoot him down. Not something people like to share with others,rather have it left in the past.
Slazmo: That reel does look like a challenge to service, but nothing be a try but a failure. :o ;D
Quote from: Reel 224 on May 06, 2015, 11:27:50 PM
Slazmo: That reel does look like a challenge to service, but nothing be a try but a failure. :o ;D
They're quiet polular and a lot of people put servicing them off for years on end and when it comes to a problem they blame the Baitrunner name and not the nong (user) behind it. These reels are quiet bomb proof in their design however need regular maintanence and are complicated in their design however work very well once tended to.
I've done a few things with both of mine which makes them so much better than off the shelf pieces and a absolute pleasure to use!
Most of my spinners are the easiest to take care of.....most cost me about $5....so when they need service.....I dig out a new one ;D....(not counting the Mitchell 300's Fred).....the Penn conventionals I have to tear apart and service....which gives me hours of entertainment!!!!