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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Okuma Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Jason Groombridge on June 24, 2015, 01:58:14 PM

Title: Okuma Titus Lever Drag - drag material?
Post by: Jason Groombridge on June 24, 2015, 01:58:14 PM
G'day Guys,

I got an Okuma Titus lever drag in for service yesterday. On pulling it apart the drag washer is an off white colour and looks a bit like canvas! What is this drag material and should I grease it with Cal's?

Cheers

Jason
Title: Re: Okuma Titus Lever Drag - drag material?
Post by: Bryan Young on June 24, 2015, 03:07:34 PM
Canvas.  I would replace it with greased Carbon Fiber.  I would send Dawn of SmoothDrag the dimensions to see if she has something close that will fit your needs.
Title: Re: Okuma Titus Lever Drag - drag material?
Post by: Jason Groombridge on June 25, 2015, 04:52:42 AM
G'day Bryan,

My customer doesn't want to pay for an upgrade. He just wants the reel serviced.

What do you reckon, grease on the canvas or not?

Cheers

Jason
Title: Re: Okuma Titus Lever Drag - drag material?
Post by: Jason Groombridge on June 25, 2015, 05:13:35 AM
Doesn't matter, I just found this from Alan http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=1142.0

Looks like canvas needs to be dry.

Cheers

Jason

PS I should use the search function more!
Title: Re: Okuma Titus Lever Drag - drag material?
Post by: jonnou on June 27, 2015, 04:05:48 AM
The search function is not the best. It comes up a Goldie sometimes though. I have cut one of these from sheet before. Pity your customer wont bring it up to its Potential. Hope he doesn't lose a fish of a lifetime.
Best regards Jon
Title: Re: Okuma Titus Lever Drag - drag material?
Post by: Jason Groombridge on June 29, 2015, 09:10:41 AM
G'day Jon,

Your'e dead right. Seeing as this reel has a plastic (not graphite) frame, a smoother CF drag would definitely help I reckon.

Cheers

Jason
Title: Re: Okuma Titus Lever Drag - drag material?
Post by: sundaytrucka on September 10, 2015, 06:06:55 AM
I know this is an old thread, but wanted to post some info for future inquiries.

The canvas washer being spoken of is actually a backing "washer" to the carbon fiber washer, the reel you were working on was missing the carbon fiber drag washer.

I frankly do not know the engineering purpose of the canvas backing, only functional thing I can think of is to keep the reverse side of the carbon fiber washer clean and uncontaminated by keeping it away from the bare metal of the spool. IMO.
Title: Re: Okuma Titus Lever Drag - drag material?
Post by: barkley1956 on October 13, 2015, 10:05:54 PM
Quote from: sundaytrucka on September 10, 2015, 06:06:55 AM
I know this is an old thread, but wanted to post some info for future inquiries.

The canvas washer being spoken of is actually a backing "washer" to the carbon fiber washer, the reel you were working on was missing the carbon fiber drag washer.

I frankly do not know the engineering purpose of the canvas backing, only functional thing I can think of is to keep the reverse side of the carbon fiber washer clean and uncontaminated by keeping it away from the bare metal of the spool. IMO.

I just opened one as well and it only has the "canvas" washer. Are you sure it had a carbon in it?
Title: Re: Okuma Titus Lever Drag - drag material?
Post by: Robert Janssen on October 13, 2015, 10:23:20 PM
Depends on age and model. Old Titus Silver, no carbon. Some Semi-old Titus Gold, no carbon, but updated later with carbon. Don't know if that applied to all markets or all reels. As has been seen, ymmv.

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Title: Re: Okuma Titus Lever Drag - drag material?
Post by: sundaytrucka on October 14, 2015, 05:05:44 AM
Quote from: barkley1956 on October 13, 2015, 10:05:54 PM
Quote from: sundaytrucka on September 10, 2015, 06:06:55 AM
I know this is an old thread, but wanted to post some info for future inquiries.

The canvas washer being spoken of is actually a backing "washer" to the carbon fiber washer, the reel you were working on was missing the carbon fiber drag washer.

I frankly do not know the engineering purpose of the canvas backing, only functional thing I can think of is to keep the reverse side of the carbon fiber washer clean and uncontaminated by keeping it away from the bare metal of the spool. IMO.

I just opened one as well and it only has the "canvas" washer. Are you sure it had a carbon in it?

I think I stand corrected,  as Robert eluded, this model and past versions have been updated and retro-fit with carbon fiber washers as the correct drag washer, the Okuma parts schematics list the replacement drag washer as CF.

The only canvas material I have seen in these reels was a very thin material canvas used as a backing to the CF washer in place, this is in my limited experience working on this specific model.