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Title: Darn Bycatch
Post by: SoCalAngler on June 28, 2015, 09:32:20 PM
I hate when these things spoil my fishing fun. I'm still on vacation and will post a report when I get back home.
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/SoCalAngler1/2015%20005_zps1kkbzhbe.jpg)
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: Dominick on June 28, 2015, 09:42:49 PM
Hey SoCal are you down in Loreto?  Dominick
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: Tightlines667 on June 28, 2015, 09:48:51 PM
Nice looking Striper!

That gal is a bit bigger then we grow 'em here in Hawaii.

Here are the results of an age and growth study, combined with DNA stock structure analysis, on the Striped Marlin.  Our program contributed all of the samples used in this analyisis.  All of the aging work was performed by my good friend Dr. Bob Humpreys at our on-site lsb.  Take a look see if your interested..

Age and Growth of Striped Marlin, Kajikia audax, in the Hawaii ...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=LGyQVZfUPJGqogThj5zoBg&url=http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/PFRP/nov12mtg/kopf.pdf&ved=0CBwQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNGtMHR9TQcuV6nYRZDC8mxyMbcZlA
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: ChileRelleno on June 29, 2015, 12:16:58 AM
Dagblasted billfish eating all the primo baits.  :o
Man what a life.
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: jonnou on June 29, 2015, 01:10:10 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on June 28, 2015, 09:48:51 PM
Nice looking Striper!

That gal is a bit bigger then we grow 'em here in Hawaii.

Here are the results of an age and growth study, combined with DNA stock structure analysis, on the Striped Marlin.  Our program contributed all of the samples used in this analyisis.  All of the aging work was performed by my good friend Dr. Bob Humpreys at our on-site lsb.  Take a look see if your interested..

Age and Growth of Striped Marlin, Kajikia audax, in the Hawaii ...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=LGyQVZfUPJGqogThj5zoBg&url=http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/PFRP/nov12mtg/kopf.pdf&ved=0CBwQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNGtMHR9TQcuV6nYRZDC8mxyMbcZlA


Interesting Article.
I am of the Belief that most igfa records are held in New Zealand. this would explain why
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: MarkT on June 29, 2015, 02:26:45 AM
Yeah, darn by catch. I was fishing for Calicos today, really I was, when I got this pesky Bluefin. Okay, maybe not!

(http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/data/photos/l/181/181095-1435535055-b7683bdc8a7bad4ae78c2bfc2436c6dd.jpg)
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: Marcq on June 29, 2015, 04:42:45 AM
That's a bloody mess  8)

Marc..
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: Capt Ahab on June 29, 2015, 10:19:55 AM
That is AWESOME!  We had a a big Blue Marlin take my new spreader bar to the horizon two weeks ago,  If you manage to catch that horse please return spreader bar  ;D
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: SoCalAngler on June 30, 2015, 04:26:00 AM
If you look at the striper you will see the weights we were using to catch some bottom grabber sea monsters. Fishing at 500" deep on a high spot my first fish was a berrilete and I'm thinking what the heck, why is this fish so deep? Rick, fishing with my farther and myself this day drops down and at about 200" his line topsand he gets picked up by the marlin in the picture. I'm thinking to myself this is some weird fishing for sure.

A few minutes later things settle back to somewhat normal type of fishing when I bring up a 30 lb grade yellowtail from the 500 foot depth. Here is a pic of Alejandro, also fishing with us today, on the right with one of the Baqueta we caught on the same high spot and his buddy holding my 30 lb YT.
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/SoCalAngler1/SummerBottomFishLoreto_zpstk43mbmi.jpg)

No real sea monsters caught today but a honorable mention should go to Rick for catching this 40 lb Baqueta, that fits in the almost a sea monster class.
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/SoCalAngler1/SummertimeBaquetaLoreto_zpsntui4drb.jpg)
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: SoCalAngler on June 30, 2015, 04:28:30 AM
Quote from: Dominick on June 28, 2015, 09:42:49 PM
Hey SoCal are you down in Loreto?  Dominick

Yes Dominick I was down in Loreto fishing a tourney but I'm back home in So Cal now.
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: SoCalAngler on June 30, 2015, 04:37:38 AM
Oh and by the way that marlin only went around 105 lbs but we did catch another while looking for dorado that went around 125 lbs which is a respectable size in Loreto for a striper but not a monster either.
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: Alto Mare on June 30, 2015, 10:52:30 AM
Quote from: SoCalAngler on June 30, 2015, 04:28:30 AM
Quote from: Dominick on June 28, 2015, 09:42:49 PM
Hey SoCal are you down in Loreto?  Dominick

Yes Dominick I was down in Loreto fishing a tourney but I'm back home in So Cal now.
Looks like you didn't do too bad Mark, thanks for the report.
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: steelfish on July 01, 2015, 03:46:27 AM
Now I see why you hate fishing in Mexico.

Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: jurelometer on July 01, 2015, 06:27:59 PM
Greetings from Loreto (me too!)

I think that the  Baqueta (Gulf of California local name) is  a star studded grouper  (Epinephelus niphobles).    11 dorsal spines, second spine the tallest.    The IGFA all tackle world record is 25 lbs, if you are into that kind of thing.

Tough for me finding decent sized dorado.  Little guys all over.   some nice roosterfish and even a few amberjack shallow enough to target with the fly.  Seen more marlin than sailfish so far.   Marine weather report the last couple days-   seas 0 ft.  winds 0-8 knots,  sunny.

Took a couple days off from fly fishing to do the deep drop fishing as well.  All big yellowtail, 25-40 lbs.     Just catching the bait deep  is a workout in this heat.    We got a baqueta ~15-20 lbs in about 600 feet with some current.   Captain nearly emptied a tld 30 to hit bottom.   No way I'm going to wind that thing in :)  Don't know how you deep drop guys do it...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HPGEKxRV0tU/VZQpp-zyXzI/AAAAAAAAA-o/0xaFYlF1FHI/s640/DSC_0183.JPG)

-J
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 01, 2015, 06:53:57 PM
Electric reels, momma always did say, "work smart not hard".
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: Tightlines667 on July 01, 2015, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: ChileRelleno on July 01, 2015, 06:53:57 PM
Electric reels, momma always did say, "work smart not hard".

I used hydro reels when deep droping (125-225fa.), and they worked sweet...though not very 'sporting'.
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: SoCalAngler on July 08, 2015, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: jurelometer on July 01, 2015, 06:27:59 PM
Greetings from Loreto (me too!)

I think that the  Baqueta (Gulf of California local name) is  a star studded grouper  (Epinephelus niphobles).    11 dorsal spines, second spine the tallest.    The IGFA all tackle world record is 25 lbs, if you are into that kind of thing.

Tough for me finding decent sized dorado.  Little guys all over.   some nice roosterfish and even a few amberjack shallow enough to target with the fly.  Seen more marlin than sailfish so far.   Marine weather report the last couple days-   seas 0 ft.  winds 0-8 knots,  sunny.

Took a couple days off from fly fishing to do the deep drop fishing as well.  All big yellowtail, 25-40 lbs.     Just catching the bait deep  is a workout in this heat.    We got a baqueta ~15-20 lbs in about 600 feet with some current.   Captain nearly emptied a tld 30 to hit bottom.   No way I'm going to wind that thing in :)  Don't know how you deep drop guys do it...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HPGEKxRV0tU/VZQpp-zyXzI/AAAAAAAAA-o/0xaFYlF1FHI/s640/DSC_0183.JPG)

-j


Thanks for the heads up I did a little research, granted not much, and this is what I found.
Baqueta, A.K.A a "Gulf Coney" the IGFA world record fish went 32.5 lbs

Record Details
Angler   George Hurchalla
Weight of Fish   14.66 kg (32 lbs 5 oz)
Length of Fish   cm ( in)
Girth of Fish   cm ( in)
Location of Catch   Huatulco
Date of Catch   10/19/2012
Type of Rod   Jarvis Walker
Type of Reel   Shimano TLD
Type of Line   PowerPro
Line Size   50 lb
Method of Catch   Jigging
Lure or Bait   jig head w/ soft plast

(http://wrec.igfa.org/getRecordImage.aspx?iid=38253&thumb=False)

I know my pic dosen'tlook the same as the IGFA pic but the fish looked the same in real life.

Hmmm, ate a world record?
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: jurelometer on July 08, 2015, 10:58:46 PM
I still think it was a Star Studded Grouper and not a Gulf Coney.  But either way, you ate a record :)      As it should be.  Those darn things are tasty.   And there are no good recipes for an  IGFA certificate. 
All sorts of  species are called "baqueta" by the locals.  I read that the best way to ID similar looking groupers is to count the dorsal spines.   mexfish.com is a good resource.

The dorado are finally picking up in Loreto.   They have been doraditos all over the place for the last week or two, but finally, more mid size fish showing up.   Found about a dozen 10 lbers today under a tumbleweed  :)  .  Saw a marlin within casting distance of the beach.  Gotta love Baja.

-J

Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: SoCalAngler on July 17, 2015, 05:21:44 AM
Quote from: jurelometer on July 08, 2015, 10:58:46 PM
I still think it was a Star Studded Grouper and not a Gulf Coney.  But either way, you ate a record :)      As it should be.  Those darn things are tasty.   And there are no good recipes for an  IGFA certificate.  
All sorts of  species are called "baqueta" by the locals.  I read that the best way to ID similar looking groupers is to count the dorsal spines.   mexfish.com is a good resource.

The dorado are finally picking up in Loreto.   They have been doraditos all over the place for the last week or two, but finally, more mid size fish showing up.   Found about a dozen 10 lbers today under a tumbleweed  :)  .  Saw a marlin within casting distance of the beach.  Gotta love Baja.

-J


Not sure if you can tell from this pic what type of fish it was, it's pretty hard to count the spines? Anyway this guy holding Ricks fish is muy fuerte as my best guess this fish went around 40 lbs maybe more. The fish lost it's color due to being on ice for several hours but out of the water it had the same coloration as the IGFA pic.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K3k1sp6Ue9U/VYPm1l5dBTI/AAAAAAAAiWg/XoNBfGodLsk/w526-h659-no/Gali%2527sCuteBassLoreto.jpg)
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: jurelometer on July 17, 2015, 05:39:49 PM
Unlike mexfish, Fishbase lists both species with 11 spines...

I'm sill voting star studded grouper.    Both species change appearance as they mature, but check out the flat tail in your photos vs. the rounded tail of the gulf coney in the photo below.
(http://coleccion.cicimar.ipn.mx/Coleccion/paginas/archivos_multimedia/imagenes_633x475/Epinephelus_acanthistius.jpg)

Congrats on the nice fish!
Title: Re: Darn Bycatch
Post by: Dominick on July 28, 2015, 05:31:10 PM
Here is another example of by-catch down where I fish in Baja.  Here is a 331lb by-catch.  See the 3rd paragraph of the text for a narrative of why it is by-catch.  Dominick

http://gordobanks.com/category/fish-reports/