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Title: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: handi2 on July 29, 2015, 11:49:50 PM
What's the size of the spool bearings on the Senator 117/118? I forgot to measure them..!
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: Tightlines667 on July 30, 2015, 05:49:35 PM
I think they are around 8X0.5X0.6 OD ID H in mm.  May want to check the bearing size thread though.
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 31, 2015, 05:00:04 PM
Keith,
I had a 14/0 apart last night, but I couldn't get the bearings out of the cups. In millimeters. I got 4.95 on the id. 19mm on the od. My best guess is 8 mm on the thickness.
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on July 31, 2015, 06:34:26 PM
Penns are all measured in inches.
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: handi2 on July 31, 2015, 07:12:49 PM
Thanks Daron I got it.

0.1875 x 0.75 x 0.2344
3/16 x 3/4 x 15/64
5x19x6

I just had one come in.
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: Tightlines667 on July 31, 2015, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: handi2 on July 31, 2015, 07:12:49 PM
Thanks Daron I got it.

0.1875 x 0.75 x 0.2344
3/16 x 3/4 x 15/64
5x19x6

I just had one come in.

Well at least I got one of the numbers right :)
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 31, 2015, 08:02:32 PM
I will make a note on that.
I got one right too John. ;D
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: handi2 on July 31, 2015, 11:50:21 PM
I couldn't find the inch size anywhere online. I guess I'll have to use the phone.
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: Robert Janssen on August 01, 2015, 09:41:51 AM
The diameters are in accordance with R3 bearing size, but not the width.

The metric size mentioned is very close to, but not the same as, the bearing you are looking for.

.
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: handi2 on August 02, 2015, 11:58:17 PM
I cannot find the inch size bearings anywhere except at Scott's. Is there any other vendor?

Keith
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 03, 2015, 01:20:11 AM
I wish I could be of more help Keith.
I don't have any spare parts for these Bohemoths.
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: Alto Mare on August 03, 2015, 03:24:59 AM
Quote from: handi2 on August 02, 2015, 11:58:17 PM
I cannot find the inch size bearings anywhere except at Scott's. Is there any other vendor?

Keith
Senator 117-118 bearing FAFNIR 35KDD
old model no 80035
new model no  635-2Z

As you already know, you could get them here:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/26-117.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/26-117.aspx)
and many other suppliers, just google the new model no.

Some facts about the company that started these
http://www.astbearings.com/fafnir-ball-bearings.html (http://www.astbearings.com/fafnir-ball-bearings.html)
Try contacting them, that might get you the size in inches.

Sal
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: Alto Mare on August 03, 2015, 09:03:13 AM
Quote from: Robert Janssen on August 01, 2015, 09:41:51 AM
The diameters are in accordance with R3 bearing size, but not the width.

The metric size mentioned is very close to, but not the same as, the bearing you are looking for.

.
Doc, you are correct!
I took one of my reels apart to check if the metric sizes are consistent, here is what I got:
The 19 OD is spot on
The 6 W is also spot on
The 5 ID is .005mm wider, is this worth mentioning? probably not. A standard computer paper is .10mm thick, we're talking half of that
I believe the 19mm OD - 6mm W and 5mm ID should do just fine.
Sal
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: Tightlines667 on August 03, 2015, 09:22:37 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 03, 2015, 09:03:13 AM
Quote from: Robert Janssen on August 01, 2015, 09:41:51 AM
The diameters are in accordance with R3 bearing size, but not the width.

The metric size mentioned is very close to, but not the same as, the bearing you are looking for.

.
Doc, you are correct!
I took one of my reels apart to check if the metric sizes are consistent, here is what I got:
The 19 OD is spot on
The 6 W is also spot on
The 5 ID is .005mm wider, is this worth mentioning? probably not. A standard computer paper is .10mm thick, we're talking half of that
I believe the 19mm OD - 6mm W and 5mm ID should do just fine.
Sal

X2..I think I used these sizes to order orange seal bearings from boca a while back.
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: handi2 on August 03, 2015, 04:00:07 PM
Thank you

I have those coming.
Title: Re: Penn 117L 14/0 Bearing Size
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 03, 2015, 05:00:02 PM
Ahhh. So I did get two numbers right. ;D
4.95 x 19