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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Sharkin904 on August 23, 2015, 03:47:53 PM

Title: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Sharkin904 on August 23, 2015, 03:47:53 PM
First off, thanks to you all for this website..it really is a gold mine for a guy like me. I recently picked myself up a 9/0, from what I can tell from reading up, its from the 50's. It needs drags for sure, but most everything I see is 114, 114H, 114HL, 114HLW, 115L. I know the L is lightweight, but will the drag washer set still work for me? Sorry if this is am obvious question, Just don't want to order the wrong parts. Also, as far as gears/sleeves go, aren't the pretty much the same as a 114? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Keta on August 23, 2015, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: Sharkin904 on August 23, 2015, 03:47:53 PM
Sorry if this is am obvious question, Just don't want to order the wrong parts. Also, as far as gears/sleeves go, aren't the pretty much the same as a 114? Thanks in advance!


The 115 uses the same drag stack, 98-114 gearsleeve and 13-114 main gear as the 114 but uses the 5-115 pinion gear.

Don't worry about your questions. We have members with a wide range of experience and even the best of us had to learn sometime. And we are still learning.
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Sharkin904 on August 23, 2015, 04:14:46 PM
Thanks! Yea, I've been lurking on here for awhile. I'm amazed at the knowledge on this site, and the reels some of you all have/make are seriously impressive.
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Black Pearl on August 23, 2015, 04:15:38 PM
If you are looking for stainless steel gear set for the 9/0, you can check it out the following link on my products.

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=9076.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=9076.0)

Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Sharkin904 on August 23, 2015, 04:21:08 PM
Nice!! I'll be placing my order within the next day or so. Thanks Black Pearl
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Sharkin904 on August 23, 2015, 04:30:14 PM
So from what I just read, the HEX gear, produces alot more drag, but you gave to cut the washers, correct? I assume I could just cut the ones I have ordered fro Scott's. I work in a bodyshop and have plenty of air tools, so in my head this seems like something I could handle.
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Black Pearl on August 23, 2015, 04:37:13 PM
Quote from: Sharkin904 on August 23, 2015, 04:30:14 PM
So from what I just read, the HEX gear, produces alot more drag, but you gave to cut the washers, correct? I assume I could just cut the ones I have ordered fro Scott's. I work in a bodyshop and have plenty of air tools, so in my head this seems like something I could handle.

The hex gear will require a 1.0mm carbon fiber material. To me, the hex is overkill. It is mostly for those hot rod reel nuts likes Sal or Daron. I will stay will the original.
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Three se7ens on August 23, 2015, 04:38:25 PM
Quote from: Sharkin904 on August 23, 2015, 04:30:14 PM
So from what I just read, the HEX gear, produces alot more drag, but you gave to cut the washers, correct? I assume I could just cut the ones I have ordered fro Scott's. I work in a bodyshop and have plenty of air tools, so in my head this seems like something I could handle.


Im doing another run of my drag kits for the 114H/115 in a couple of weeks.  Its a straight drop in to standard style gears, and fits either original Penn or Black Pearls gears.  More info here:  http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13341.0
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Sharkin904 on August 23, 2015, 04:52:14 PM
lol, Thanks for the advice. Standard it is, and Three Se7ens, I'll deff keep an eye out
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 23, 2015, 05:18:42 PM
Nick,
If you are going Black Pearl gears. Go Conventional with one of Adams inserts and a stainless sleeve.
The inserts from Adam are one of the best upgrades there is for that 9/0. The double dogging is optional.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2919_zpspfg3v8fy.jpg)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2920_zpsgbyvkp3b.jpg)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2921_zpsu8shnjwv.jpg)
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Sharkin904 on August 23, 2015, 09:54:38 PM
Daron, what are the benefits of the double dogs? I keep seeing people do them, just unclear as to why. But the BP gear is in the plans, as well as adams inserts with a SS sleeve. If I can get my hands on one of Tom's frames...all I need is a handle and this thing will be a monster! 
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: alantani on August 23, 2015, 09:58:30 PM
i have a handle that will work! send a pm if i can tempt you with one!
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 23, 2015, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: Sharkin904 on August 23, 2015, 09:54:38 PM
Daron, what are the benefits of the double dogs? I keep seeing people do them, just unclear as to why. But the BP gear is in the plans, as well as adams inserts with a SS sleeve. If I can get my hands on one of Tom's frames...all I need is a handle and this thing will be a monster! 
It makes the reel stronger. You have double the anti reverse power and less handle slop.
It is not a necessity, but it replaces the brass dog with stainless.
Sal pioneered this and it is just something we do. ;)
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Rancanfish on August 23, 2015, 10:34:31 PM
Hot rod reel nuts, lol.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Black Pearl on August 23, 2015, 10:40:03 PM
Quote from: Rancanfish on August 23, 2015, 10:34:31 PM
Hot rod reel nuts, lol.   ;D ;D

I knew someone will get it eventually.... ;)
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Sharkin904 on August 25, 2015, 01:35:04 AM
Daron, do you by any chance have a thread about double dogging yours?
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 25, 2015, 08:22:58 AM
Sure Nick,
All you really need to do is troll the Senator section.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13028.0
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12338.15
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=10353.0
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Sharkin904 on August 25, 2015, 11:38:18 PM
because my hands are greasy and its difficult to search/type with just my pinky...how do i remove the gear sleeve?? im stuck  :-\
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 25, 2015, 11:47:39 PM
There is a small brass pin that needs to be removed. Then it will slide right off.
You need a small punch to remove it. It will be about half way up the sleeve.
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Sharkin904 on August 25, 2015, 11:49:47 PM
just found it! it was gunked over lol. Thankyou!
Title: Re: Few questions before I order parts, 115
Post by: Keta on August 25, 2015, 11:59:13 PM
If you don't have the right punch a paperclip held with a pair of pillars works most of the time.