Received a tube of CorrosionX Grease. The manufacture is Scandex AG out of Germany. http://www.scandex.de/ (http://www.scandex.de/)
Here's a photo the grease.
(http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae348/hawaiiansurfinboy/CorrosionX%20Grease/CorrosionXGreaseTube.jpg)
(http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae348/hawaiiansurfinboy/CorrosionX%20Grease/CorrosionXGrease.jpg)
(http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae348/hawaiiansurfinboy/CorrosionX%20Grease/CorrosionXGreaseMSDS_1.jpg)
(http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae348/hawaiiansurfinboy/CorrosionX%20Grease/CorrosionXGreaseMSDS_2.jpg)
(http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae348/hawaiiansurfinboy/CorrosionX%20Grease/CorrosionXGreaseMSDS_3.jpg)
(http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae348/hawaiiansurfinboy/CorrosionX%20Grease/CorrosionXGreaseMSDS_4.jpg)
(http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae348/hawaiiansurfinboy/CorrosionX%20Grease/CorrosionXGreaseMSDS_5-1.jpg)
I have yet had the opportunity to try it out on my reels, but as soon as I do, I will give you my comments. The consistency is similar to YamaLube Marine Grease.
Has anyone in our community tried this, and if so, please provide your comments.
Bryan,
Did you get it from them or domestically? If from Germany, was shipping reasonable? This might be great stuff!
Gene
It's only available in the European Union at the moment. I contacted CorrosionX in Texas and asked him about the product, and he told me that it's a European product, and it's not sold here...yet.
PM me if you are interested in purchasing a tube, and I'll get a price for the grease plus shipping.
I'll post the MSDS as soon as I can get them scanned.
I sent a message to the individual that provided me a sample to try out. Once I hear back from him, I'll provide you with additional details on how we may be able to get them here in the US.
Sounds great, keep us posted... and thanks!
Here you can contact in USA
USA
X-Autoproducts
Contact: Barry More
Phone 001 8005591192
info@X-Autoproducts
http://www.X-Autoproducts.com
CT
2638 National Drive
Garland TX 75041
Phone: 001-9722717361
Fax:001-9722789721
email: mtuite@CorrosionX.com
http://www.Corrosionx.com
Interjet Inc.
Claiere Chennoult Addison TX 75001
Tel 001972931 8889
Fax 001 972 931 8892
I've already contacted US based suppliers and they do not carry the grease. Grease is only offered in Europe as it was developed and marketed in Germany.
Likewise, I have not seen the low-friction CorrosionX lube, which I am also interested in trying.
Bryan, I'd also like to know the price..........
I get next time 400ml Corrosion X Haevy Duty, Corrosion X red and Corrosion X Grease. Price each 20,00 EUR, Corrosion X red 14,00 EUR
If everyone is interessted I can give you the adress.
Product MSDS added to the first posting.
Anybody heard of a price yet? I'm real curious.....
Still no word. I'm writing him again.
I've found CorrsionX grease from a supplier in Australia....
http://www.landrovertuning.com.au/shop/x-products
Cheers, T
wow thats a fortune, 80 bucks a gallon here in hawaii
and we are the lucky country!could not be twice as good as inox.lol
I use Omega 95, check out the website, it looks remarkeably similar to the Corrosion x Grease
http://www.oilssa.co.za/greases.htm
Hey Jim,
What do you make of the msds sheet... is it any good. After reading your reports on tsi301 you know what you're talking about. Like Alan said, "a man's gotta now his limits."
Thanks
Dom
They also make some reel grease now
(http://weboil.dk/Graphics/Products/275.jpg)
Quote from: Killerbug on October 30, 2012, 09:02:18 PM
They also make some reel grease now
(http://weboil.dk/Graphics/Products/275.jpg)
Interested to find out where I could get some of this ReelX grease you showed a picture of here.
Any feedback on how it performs? Thanks Mike
that corrosion-x grease looks like sexy stuff. I'd be interested. :)
ReelX soft grease is the same as CorrosionX HD except in a bottle instead of a can. ReelX medium grease is CorrosionX Grease plus CorrosionX HD for a little thicker consistency than CorrosionX HD but thinner than CorrosionX Grease. Hope this helps.
I don't know of the price here in the US as its only supplied in Europe, primarily in Germany. May be easy to get in Europe, but hard to get here in the US.
Maybe this helps, the Scandex distributer in USA, is
Interjet Inc.
Byron Hofman
Claiere Chennoult Addison TX 75001
Tel 001972931 8889
Fax 001 972 931 8892
Australia
X-Products Dirk Groening
Emerald Beach 2456 NSW
Phone: +61 (0)448 886464
Mail: info@xproducts.com.au
www.xproducts.com.au
For other countries look here
http://www.scandex.de/en/chemie/scandex-distributors.html
(http://www.canyonreels.eu/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/ReelX_Rollenfett_4f86e39b2895e.jpg)
Eat my hat, that the medium grease is exactly the same Bryan bought. The trick is, make some sexy labels on a nice container(add something with fishing reel)
and sell it for 20$ the ounce, preferable without a data sheet( so no one knows the real source)
Looks very similar to Cal's grease. ???
Don, it may look the same, but it's very different.
some comments for to bring light in the dark.
i stay happily retired as freelance consulter (angler and shooter with more than 50y experience on my shoulders)
close to the German manufacturer Scandex AG. But i have no influence in their operative decisions. I can recommend these and that and what i would do, but the rest is their own decision. Sorry, thats why you cannot buy ReelX Grease Medium yet in America.
For clarification:
CorrosionX Grease and ReelX Grease Medium are definitely the same stuff!
To industrial companies they sell it as "CorrosionX Grease" in 400g tubes, and to the anglers as "ReelX Grease Medium" in small 30g boxes.( sorry, was my idea). Same applies to CorosionX HD (Heavy Duty) and ReelX Grease Soft.
A wellknown American reel manufacturer tested the medium grease already and were fully convinced.
Meanwhile Scandex sells the complete product line CorrosionX, ReelX, SpeedX and the both greases in Germany, Austria and Australia. Replies from importes in Poland, Russia and an important Asian country are still pending.
@ Killerbug:
In case you are interested in one of the products, feel free to contact one of the following German tackle dealers
or me by PN
CH Rutenbau
Wasserloos 2 F
24943 Flensburg
Phone: +49(0)461-14681381
E-Mail: ch-rutenbau@arcor.de
www.rutenreparatur.de/shop/speedx-reelx-öl-und-fett/
contact: Mr. Christian Heinrich (owner)
Canyon Reels Europe
The Tackle Shop
Am Butterhügel 3
66450 Bexbach-Kleinottweiler
Phone: +49(0)6373 506040
E-Mail: info@the-tackle-shop.com
www.canyonreels.eu/de/online-shop/pflegeoele-a-fette?page=shop.browse&category_id=5
contact: Mr. Wolfgang Schmidt (owner)
70° Nord
General Importer AVET Reels
Nagoldblick 12
75399 Unterreichenbach
Tel: +49(0)7235-974154
Fax: +49(0)7235-974384
Mail: info@70grad-nord.de
www.70grad-nord.de/schmierstoffe.html
contact: Mr. Ralph (Nick) Baehr (owner)
From the prices you will see that one ounce is much cheaper than expected, and that incl. 19pct German VAT ;D
Let me know when you eat your hat, ill come to Denmark, lovede/promised.
This are the customer informations from the Scandex Flyer:
+2000 hrs Salt Spray Test
ReelX Grease Soft is proven for its super long-term protection against serious rust and corrosion assault. For those really tough jobs where you need the ultimate protection against moisture, the answer is ReelX Grease Soft. There is no other product like it on the market today. It is a high performance, thick-film version of CorrosionX. It was developed specifically to provide maximum protection against moisture intrusion and resulting rust and corrosion. Highly recommended for use on all FISHING REELS, ReelX Grease Soft forms a dripless, dynamic, non-hardening, self-healing film that stubbornly resists erosion including complete submersion in saltwater. It will slowly penetrate existing rust and corrosion, remove moisture and stop electrolysis, and then it seals moisture out. Unlike wax coatings, it will not dry out, stiffen or crack under stress.
It contains no wax, tar, silicone or other solids, So It Can't Gum-Up Recommended for gears, bearings and inside protection of all fishing reels.
Processing Temperature: -20°C (-4°F) to +130°C (266°F), short term +160°C (320°F)
STOPS AND PREVENTS CORROSION AND RUST
Non-Toxic • Non-Carcinogenic • Non-Flammable
+2000 hrs Salt Spray Test
ReelX Grease Medium, our new ultra-high performance grease, for use in high corrosive environments
Same high performance product like ReelX Grease Soft with a thicker consistency, NLGI Classification II Originally developed for windpower plants, oil platforms and general maritime applications.
Apply on gears, bearings and for inside protection from midium sized Spinners up to Big Game Reels.
It contains no wax, tar, silicone or other solids, So It Can't Gum-Up! Processing Temperature: -20°C (-4°F) to +130°C (266°F), short term +160°C (320°F)
STOPS AND PREVENTS CORROSION AND RUST
Non-Toxic • Non-Carcinogenic • Non-Flammable
Everyone knows the troubles of the separation of different oils and greases.
All a.m. products can be mixed among each other to the necessary consistency. It comes to no separation!!
Personally tested over a period of more than six months.
On request of Scandex AG Germany pls do not contact Interjet Inc. with inquiries. They do not sell the products!!
As soon as the Scandex management decides to export to the USA ill let you know.
Wish a beautiful weekend
Wolli
Quote from: Wolli on November 04, 2012, 02:09:25 AM
some comments for to bring light in the dark.
i stay happily retired as freelance consulter (angler and shooter with more than 50y experience on my shoulders)
close to the German manufacturer Scandex AG. But i have no influence in their operative decisions. I can recommend these and that and what i would do, but the rest is their own decision. Sorry, thats why you cannot buy ReelX Grease Medium yet in America.
For clarification:
CorrosionX Grease and ReelX Grease Medium are definitely the same stuff!
To industrial companies they sell it as "CorrosionX Grease" in 400g tubes, and to the anglers as "ReelX Grease Medium" in small 30g boxes.( sorry, was my idea). Same applies to CorosionX HD (Heavy Duty) and ReelX Grease Soft.
A wellknown American reel manufacturer tested the medium grease already and were fully convinced.
Meanwhile Scandex sells the complete product line CorrosionX, ReelX, SpeedX and the both greases in Germany, Austria and Australia. Replies from importes in Poland, Russia and an important Asian country are still pending.
@ Killerbug:
In case you are interested in one of the products, feel free to contact one of the following German tackle dealers
or me by PN
CH Rutenbau
Wasserloos 2 F
24943 Flensburg
Phone: +49(0)461-14681381
E-Mail: ch-rutenbau@arcor.de
www.rutenreparatur.de/shop/speedx-reelx-öl-und-fett/
contact: Mr. Christian Heinrich (owner)
Canyon Reels Europe
The Tackle Shop
Am Butterhügel 3
66450 Bexbach-Kleinottweiler
Phone: +49(0)6373 506040
E-Mail: info@the-tackle-shop.com
www.canyonreels.eu/de/online-shop/pflegeoele-a-fette?page=shop.browse&category_id=5
contact: Mr. Wolfgang Schmidt (owner)
70° Nord
General Importer AVET Reels
Nagoldblick 12
75399 Unterreichenbach
Tel: +49(0)7235-974154
Fax: +49(0)7235-974384
Mail: info@70grad-nord.de
www.70grad-nord.de/schmierstoffe.html
contact: Mr. Ralph (Nick) Baehr (owner)
From the prices you will see that one ounce is much cheaper than expected, and that incl. 19pct German VAT ;D
Let me know when you eat your hat, ill come to Denmark, lovede/promised.
This are the customer informations from the Scandex Flyer:
+2000 hrs Salt Spray Test
ReelX Grease Soft is proven for its super long-term protection against serious rust and corrosion assault. For those really tough jobs where you need the ultimate protection against moisture, the answer is ReelX Grease Soft. There is no other product like it on the market today. It is a high performance, thick-film version of CorrosionX. It was developed specifically to provide maximum protection against moisture intrusion and resulting rust and corrosion. Highly recommended for use on all FISHING REELS, ReelX Grease Soft forms a dripless, dynamic, non-hardening, self-healing film that stubbornly resists erosion including complete submersion in saltwater. It will slowly penetrate existing rust and corrosion, remove moisture and stop electrolysis, and then it seals moisture out. Unlike wax coatings, it will not dry out, stiffen or crack under stress.
It contains no wax, tar, silicone or other solids, So It Can't Gum-Up Recommended for gears, bearings and inside protection of all fishing reels.
Processing Temperature: -20°C (-4°F) to +130°C (266°F), short term +160°C (320°F)
STOPS AND PREVENTS CORROSION AND RUST
Non-Toxic • Non-Carcinogenic • Non-Flammable
+2000 hrs Salt Spray Test
ReelX Grease Medium, our new ultra-high performance grease, for use in high corrosive environments
Same high performance product like ReelX Grease Soft with a thicker consistency, NLGI Classification II Originally developed for windpower plants, oil platforms and general maritime applications.
Apply on gears, bearings and for inside protection from midium sized Spinners up to Big Game Reels.
It contains no wax, tar, silicone or other solids, So It Can't Gum-Up! Processing Temperature: -20°C (-4°F) to +130°C (266°F), short term +160°C (320°F)
STOPS AND PREVENTS CORROSION AND RUST
Non-Toxic • Non-Carcinogenic • Non-Flammable
Everyone knows the troubles of the separation of different oils and greases.
All a.m. products can be mixed among each other to the necessary consistency. It comes to no separation!!
Personally tested over a period of more than six months.
On request of Scandex AG Germany pls do not contact Interjet Inc. with inquiries. They do not sell the products!!
As soon as the Scandex management decides to export to the USA ill let you know.
Wish a beautiful weekend
Wolli
it's just so beautiful I want to cry ;D
Quote from: Wolli on November 04, 2012, 02:09:25 AM
some comments for to bring light in the dark.
@ Killerbug:
In case you are interested in one of the products, feel free to contact one of the following German tackle dealers
or me by PN
Thanks,
I find their reelX grease way to expensive, and I doubt it is any better than their industrial product range, I would buy the normal CorrosionX grease though.
9€ for one ounce of industrial grease in a nice can is simply fraud, as long as you get 14 ounces of EP2, Magnalube, Yamalube, or whatever industrial oil for the same price.
If you read the CorrosionX grease datasheet on their homepage, you will discover that infos on both thickener, and the oil of CorrosionX grease is missing, this would be enough to make any engineer suspicious about this product. Nothing is more important for the behavior of the grease than the thickener used, personally I would never dare using an "unknown grease" for running some engine, or other expensive mechanics.
I think CorrosionX is a fine product though, I just think Magnalube-G is better suited for the smaller baitcasters I mostly service at my reel shop, for various reasons. For large closed gear systems in spinning reels, the washout and anti corrosion properties grease is less critical. I use a gear grease with lower washout properties(because the saltwater never enters the gearbox), but one
that stick to the gears for a long time and provides maximum lubrication.
Anyone with any experience with this stuff:
Dupont Teflon Marine Grease?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUPONT-TEFLON-MARINE-WATERPROOF-GREASE-Auto-Industrial-/270774807285?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0b6faaf5
Price is right, wonder if it is a contender for bearings (not spool :)) and general protection?
I don't know how good it is but according to thier specs. it looks good. For a better deal go to amazon.com & check out the price of a 16 oz. container. I ordered a 16 oz. can from Midway Auto on amazon. With a calcium thickener & tefon additive I'm going to try this out on the drag washers of a 113H. All I have to lose is maybe a set of washers. Rudy ??? ::)
i'm sure these products might work, but do you really want to find out the hard way that they don't? :-\
I don't disagee with you boss, but isn't that how we got to where we are today :-\?
To be honest, my interest was less a drag washer grease than a general purpose one and just stumbled across it. I've been testing Penn's new Spinfisher (the live liner that hasn't been released yet) and have kinda been sucked into dunking spinning reels and seeing how they do later on :).
So have my eye peeled for greases specifically formulated for corrosion resistance and very low "washout"... Seems like this type of grease would be ideal...and hoping it is not quite as thick as Cal's as it is a bearing grease from the get go.
Got some on the way...I'll post pics when it arrives.
Hi Alan, I guess the only way to find out if something works is to try it. Reading it might work does not mean it will, & trying it is the only way to prove if it will. I don't think that Cal's has their drag grease made exclusively for them only. I feel that the worst thing that could happen with testing this is it doesn't work & I can't can't clean the grease out of the washers & reuse them. The only other thing I lose is a little time & assembly & disassembly of the reel. But isn't this what it is all about? Rudy
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 08, 2012, 10:42:24 AM
I don't disagee with you boss, but isn't that how we got to where we are today :-\?
so true! ;D
Quote from: johndtuttle on December 08, 2012, 05:33:39 PM
To be honest, my interest was less a drag washer grease than a general purpose one and just stumbled across it. I've been testing Penn's new Spinfisher (the live liner that hasn't been released yet) and have kinda been sucked into dunking spinning reels and seeing how they do later on :).
So have my eye peeled for greases specifically formulated for corrosion resistance and very low "washout"... Seems like this type of grease would be ideal...and hoping it is not quite as thick as Cal's as it is a bearing grease from the get go.
Got some on the way...I'll post pics when it arrives.
John, are you testing for Penn?
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 08, 2012, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: johndtuttle on December 08, 2012, 05:33:39 PM
To be honest, my interest was less a drag washer grease than a general purpose one and just stumbled across it. I've been testing Penn's new Spinfisher (the live liner that hasn't been released yet) and have kinda been sucked into dunking spinning reels and seeing how they do later on :).
So have my eye peeled for greases specifically formulated for corrosion resistance and very low "washout"... Seems like this type of grease would be ideal...and hoping it is not quite as thick as Cal's as it is a bearing grease from the get go.
Got some on the way...I'll post pics when it arrives.
John, are you testing for Penn?
Just one of the Spinfisher LiveLiners....nothing fancy schmancy. :)
I popped it open to take a look at the gear box. I tried not to look at the Live Liner mechanism too hard as I was afraid a part would fall out and I wouldn't have a clue as to what to do with it lol.
It's a 6500 size so I haven't seen the mechanical dog back up yet. It's on the 7500 and larger I believe.
best
Quote from: johndtuttle on December 08, 2012, 05:33:39 PM
Just one of the Spinfisher LiveLiners....nothing fancy schmancy. :)
I popped it open to take a look at the gear box. I tried not to look at the Live Liner mechanism too hard as I was afraid a part would fall out and I wouldn't have a clue as to what to do with it lol.
It's a 6500 size so I haven't seen the mechanical dog back up yet. It's on the 7500 and larger I believe.
best
I hear that....good call! ;)
Quote from: alantani on December 08, 2012, 10:24:55 AM
i'm sure these products might work, but do you really want to find out the hard way that they don't? :-\
me, no way. my brother-in-law once told me if you will buy the current generation model car wait till the 3rd yr because by that time the manufacturer have taken care of all the "bugs".;)
Quote from: alantani on December 08, 2012, 10:24:55 AM
i'm sure these products might work, but do you really want to find out the hard way that they don't? :-\
Well, hopefully we won't find out the hard way they don't, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. :D
What I was really hoping to accomplish is to find something that was Marine Grade, but would be much lighter than other bearing greases as the heavier ones can make a spinning reel noticeably more sluggish when applied to gears. This is more noticeable the smaller the reel.
My Daiwa Sweepfire hates Marine Bearing Grease ;D.
So it arrived and I took a few preliminary photos:
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/haugusnord/P1010343.jpg)
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/haugusnord/P1010344.jpg)
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii261/haugusnord/P1010341.jpg)
Preliminary impression is that it is of a far lighter consistency than Cal's or Marine Bearing greases, but initial impression is that it is heavier than Shimano Reel Grease (not the same as Shimano Drag Grease) so I will give it a go in a reel and see if I can notice the difference.
It is extremely low "washout" meaning water will not soak in to it or wash it away (I think that is the meaning of the term anyways) but just how durable and how it would affect the free spinning of bearings etc remains to be seen. Time required. :D
best regards.
John, have you tried this?
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/016-4.jpg)
This is Valvoline Multi-Purpose Grease (RED) and Power Steering Fluid, a 50/50 mixture...no cleaning addetives.
It has been around for a long time, this is the only grease that my spinners get.
I like it so much that I went back using it on my conventionals as well. You can adjust the ratio, I like it a little thicker on my conventionals....love this stuff!
Sal
Very cool.
Yea, I noted in another post of yours that you were using that. I thought about maybe mixing some corrosion-x to some Marine Grease to thin it and see if I could make a mixture. But I had no idea if it would mix well or separate over time.
Are there any marine additives in that general purpose grease? My understand is that in testing the marine additives really do make a difference in preventing corrosion as compared to standard automotive greases.
Of course, I have not the slightest idea what marine additives have been added to this stuff and only operate under the assumption that Dupont has got some special magic or ju-ju added to make it a true Marine product.
I couldn't be happier if someone who knows more than me in this area (not hard :D) could set me straight if I am wrong on any of this.
best
John, I'm not a pro on this stuff, I usually listen to the product itself. ;).
The gentleman that came up with this mixture has been using it for many many years, he definitely know a lot more than I would ever learn, this is why I gave it a try. He's also one of the best machinist that I've ever seen.
I've been using it for over a year now and my reels feel very smooth. When I open them up for service, the grease always looks in the same condition as the day I put it in.
I don't know how true it is, but the same gentleman mentioned that gaskets in reels have a reaction to some grease with cleaning agents :-\
The only ingredients I see on the container is Petroleum Distillate, but I also see it on hundreds of other products ;D
As I mentioned above, I really like it and will keep on using it. I'm not selling anything, I just wanted to mention it for what it's worth.
Later.
Sal
john, bought the same dupont waterproof grease a few months ago but stopped using it. i've been usiing this grease and one that i bought locally and it seems that these 2 can't handle the temperatures here so i decided just to use cal's for all my reels. also will do an experiment by exposing these 3 brands of grease i have directly under the sun on a metal surface and see which one holds better. hopefully it's cal's... :)
Quote from: Mel B on December 11, 2012, 11:26:30 AM
john, bought the same dupont waterproof grease a few months ago but stopped using it. i've been usiing this grease and one that i bought locally and it seems that these 2 can't handle the temperatures here so i decided just to use cal's for all my reels. also will do an experiment by exposing these 3 brands of grease i have directly under the sun on a metal surface and see which one holds better. hopefully it's cal's... :)
interesting Mel. Dupont's spec sheet says it is stable to 700 degrees Fahrenheit. Anyways, my concern is less drags than it is general marine protection in a low viscosity grease. Cal's on gears and in bearings makes them sluggish.
Still, looking forward to your report.
hi john! actually i haven't repacked my non-spool bearings with these marine grease. i only apply it for corrosion protection since i am only, for the mean time, freshwater fishing. i decided to use cal's grease for this purpose so as not to contaminate the CF washers. also i only use Singer oil mixed with a liitle bit of Shimano bearing oil for the spool bearings until i get hold of these synthetic oils that many anglers are using. anyways will post results of experiment, hopefully soon because i am waiting for a >40 celsius day here. till then...
ok here goes the result, from exposing directly to sun, 3 different brands of grease; temp around 33 degrees celsius.
L to R local brand, dupont and cal's
before;
(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s410/flipmlb/DSCN4129_zps74238b68.jpg)
after;
(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s410/flipmlb/DSCN4131_zps36bd34c9.jpg)
this was after exposing the greases to direct sunlight for about 2 hrs because it started to rain. all 3 held up very well but i think it's not really a scientific test. the only noticeable difference is the dupont changed color, it became darker. hopefully you can see that in these 2 photos.
Quote from: Bryan Young on October 31, 2012, 06:34:34 AM
ReelX soft grease is the same as CorrosionX HD except in a bottle instead of a can.
ReelX medium grease is CorrosionX Grease plus CorrosionX HD for a little thicker consistency than CorrosionX HD but thinner than CorrosionX Grease.
Quote from: Killerbug on October 31, 2012, 09:36:55 PM
Eat my hat, that the medium grease is exactly the same Bryan bought. The trick is, make some sexy labels on a nice container(add something with fishing reel) and sell it for 20$ the ounce, preferable without a data sheet( so no one knows the real source)
Quote from: Wolli on November 04, 2012, 02:09:25 AM
For clarification:
CorrosionX Grease and ReelX Grease Medium are definitely the same stuff!
To industrial companies they sell it as "CorrosionX Grease" in 400g tubes, and to the anglers as "ReelX Grease Medium" in small 30g boxes.
Same applies to CorosionX HD (Heavy Duty) and ReelX Grease Soft.
Wolli
Re: Corrosion X Medium Grease: Is it the same as Corrosion X Grease or is it thinned somewhat with Corrosion X HD?
I am thinking of buying the industrial grease pack and rolling my own. Could I use regular Corrosion X to do this or do I need the HD stuff?
Since the HD is the soft grease anyway, where could I buy it at a reasonable price shipped to Australia? Don't want to buy a gallon container @ nearly $300!
~
Mel,
Some one who is willing to do the real life test. This is great.
From the MDS this is petroleum based and will dry or separate over time and probably absorb some water (unless it has a calcium base).
This only means that when using the product it will need to cleaned and re greased regularly.
Here are some simple test to try:
The sun and outdoor weather test. Apply a thin films of equal thickness (like a couple of paper thicknesses). Place outdoors in direct sunlight and check every few days for at least 2 months to see which lubes wash off in the rain, discolor and dry out. The lube that stays as close to original wins here. Remember we expect our lubes to remain serviceable for at least 6 months to 5 years.
Saltwater immersion test: place dabs on the inside of a jar going from ultra thin the 1/8" thick. Fill jar with salt water: check daily for color changes and cloudiness that would indicate water absorption. Least cloudy and less change wins here. Enhance this test by heating to 110 -120 degrees (on top of the water heater might do) and see if the results change. If the lube absorbs any water it will eventually form a salt crystal paste in the reel (we have all seen this paste). Grease that is susceptible to salt crystals should only be applied as a thin layer to reduce salt crystal collection.
Corrosion prevention: apply very thin layers on iron finish nails and rub it in good (do 3 or 4 each for each lube and bundle them together by lube type. Submerse in individual jars with salt water and observe every hour for 4 hours and then daily after that. Note when rust stains appear and if the lube is lifted by rust. The rust may start very quickly or suddenly after a few days.
NO rust or stains rates a 100 out of 100 after 10 days
Rust in water or on jar but not collecting on the nails rates a 90
Rust stains without rust build up rates a 60
Rust build up with lube lifting rates a 10
TSI/Corrosionx blend gets a 90 rating in my earlier test - seems that iron still dissolves into the sea water and then oxidizes.
for those that have rust build up wipe the nails off and clean and inspect the nail surfaces for pits. If pitted I do not recomend the lube for reel bearings. If the surface is stained(black)and no pits then it will still be good for packing bearings.
Jim N.
It's order time again. Can't believe I have gone through a whole canister of this so quick!
Problem:
Local Price 12 months ago A$29.55.
Today's Current Price - A$53.76
Since the locals have priced themselves out of the market, I am looking to order outside Australia.
An Asian supplier would be good but I will settle for whoever will ship to Oz at a reasonable price.
Distributors will just tell you top order locally. Any advice?
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I got mine from Europe...so I don't have any recommendations.
Probably your best bet is to go to their website and contact them directly. They will put you in touch with the closest sales representative who can tell you where you can get it from. They will know which distributors cart which specific products and also where you can order from online.
Quote from: Tightlines666 on June 24, 2014, 01:20:13 AM
Probably your best bet is to go to their website and contact them directly. They will put you in touch with the closest sales representative who can tell you where you can get it from. They will know which distributors cart which specific products and also where you can order from online.
Already have that info.
Trouble is, it is too expensive here having gone up in price by 40% in just 12 months!
That is why I am looking elsewhere.
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Look there:
Australien
X-Products
Dirk Groening
Emerald Beach 2456 NSW
Phone: +61 (0)448 886464
Mail: info@xproducts.com.au
www.xproducts.com.au
Here are all dealer:
Sorry is in german.
Quote from: ossipeter on June 24, 2014, 11:44:11 AM
Look there:
Australien
X-Products
Dirk Groening
Emerald Beach 2456 NSW
Phone: +61 (0)448 886464
Mail: info@xproducts.com.au
www.xproducts.com.au
Here are all dealer:
http://www.scandex.de/chemie/scandex-vertriebspartner-und-haendler.html
Sorry is in german.
This is getting a bit frustrating.
What part of looking for a cheap source OUTSIDE of Australia don't you understand ???
Nancy Erling of Pacific Corrosion Products, California says she can get it and is currently making enquiries.
I have bought Corrsion X products from them before and they are much cheaper than buying locally even after freight plus they are good to deal with.
I remember you commenting on how dismal the price was here when I last purchased some products Alan and now the price of grease has gone up another 40% in just 12 months!
If some enterprising member in the USA was to perhaps buy a case, (not sure how many canisters are in a case), how many forum members would be interested in buying a canister assuming the price was reasonable?
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I'll inquire to see if I can obtain more from my German source. As far as I know, it's not available here in the US so it would have to be imported from Germany.
Corrosion X makes great products, but for reel grease. I just use Penn Blue for the reels internals and reel X on the bearings. I really don't see the need to buy this high dollar grease for reels.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 26, 2014, 05:03:34 AM
Corrosion X makes great products, but for reel grease. I just use Penn Blue for the reels internals and reel X on the bearings. I really don't see the need to buy this high dollar grease for reels.
Pretty simple really, it is a soap base for the Corrosion X product you are using on your bearings.
If you can show me something that has superior corrosion protection, I will consider it.
However, there are distinct advantages to using a single line of compatible products.
Quote from: Bryan Young on June 26, 2014, 12:46:38 AM
I'll inquire to see if I can obtain more from my German source. As far as I know, it's not available here in the US so it would have to be imported from Germany.
Thanks for that Bryan. I was hoping you would do that.
Nancy got back to me saying she just forwarded my email to their head office in Europe so that will go nowhere.
Strange that you can buy their other products in the states but not the grease.
I really can see no justification for the local price discrepancy on Corrosion X products.
They are over double here vs globally.
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I understand your method of wanting the best grease for your reels, and I am sure it is the best. It better be for almost $4 an ounce! I'm just saying with regular maintenance, Penn Blue and Yamalube will provide adequate corrosion protection at $1.25 an ounce. Alan uses the Yamalube. I just prefer the Penn for its ease of acquisition.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 27, 2014, 03:50:54 AM
I understand your method of wanting the best grease for your reels, and I am sure it is the best. It better be for almost $4 an ounce! I'm just saying with regular maintenance, Penn Blue and Yamalube will provide adequate corrosion protection at $1.25 an ounce. Alan uses the Yamalube. I just prefer the Penn for its ease of acquisition.
I originally started with the Yamaha grease but after combining Corrosion X products, I never looked back.
I have not personally used the Penn grease but have observed it in reels that have come in. It does not seem to adhere to parts in the same manner the Corrosion X grease does but it would be the next thing on the list of trials should Corrosion X become completely unaffordable. While your quoted mathematics may be valid in Kentucky I am sure the same prices would not apply to our overpriced economy. However I have no doubt that it would still be half the price.
Again, there are distinct advantages to using a single line of compatible products. I will leave you to ponder that for a while.
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I also use Cal's too on drags too.
Am I speaking a different language or are you just reading impaired.
Re economics: If you cannot be bothered taking the time to read the actual words in my post go away and argue with someone who has a pathological need for it.
Re your application of lubricants: Could be improved as could your choice of reels, but since you spent so long considering my previous posts I am sure this will also pass unheeded.
Hijack someone else's post so we can resume our normal programme.
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Quote from: exp2000 on June 27, 2014, 02:37:38 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 26, 2014, 05:03:34 AM
Corrosion X makes great products, but for reel grease. I just use Penn Blue for the reels internals and reel X on the bearings. I really don't see the need to buy this high dollar grease for reels.
Pretty simple really, it is a soap base for the Corrosion X product you are using on your bearings.
If you can show me something that has superior corrosion protection, I will consider it.
However, there are distinct advantages to using a single line of compatible products.
Quote from: Bryan Young on June 26, 2014, 12:46:38 AM
I'll inquire to see if I can obtain more from my German source. As far as I know, it's not available here in the US so it would have to be imported from Germany.
Thanks for that Bryan. I was hoping you would do that.
Nancy got back to me saying she just forwarded my email to their head office in Europe so that will go nowhere.
Strange that you can buy their other products in the states but not the grease.
I really can see no justification for the local price discrepancy on Corrosion X products.
They are over double here vs globally.
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CorrosionX grease was developed by German chemist as Germany's CorrosionX organization saw a need for superior corrosion resistant lubricants. Here in the US, there really isn't a need since there are so many other products to choose from, and from the marketing sense, the market is not large enough for CorrosionX USA to produce that stuff.
I hope to have an answer soon from Germany. I asked for a case price and hopefully I will get an answer soon.
By the way, I like it but the cost is 2X Yamaha grease plus shipping from Germany. And if I purchase a case, there will be additional customs tax, but will still look into it because the grease is great.
Quote from: exp2000 on June 27, 2014, 07:40:13 AM
I also use Cal's too on drags too.
Am I speaking a different language or are you just reading impaired.
Re economics: If you cannot be bothered taking the time to read the actual words in my post go away and argue with someone who has a pathological need for it.
Re your application of lubricants: Could be improved as could your choice of reels, but since you spent so long considering my previous posts I am sure this will also pass unheeded.
Hijack someone else's post so we can resume our normal programme.
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I think somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed. >:(, ;D Good Luck on your Search. ;)
Quote from: exp2000 on June 27, 2014, 07:40:13 AM
I also use Cal's too on drags too.
Am I speaking a different language or are you just reading impaired.
Re economics: If you cannot be bothered taking the time to read the actual words in my post go away and argue with someone who has a pathological need for it.
Re your application of lubricants: Could be improved as could your choice of reels, but since you spent so long considering my previous posts I am sure this will also pass unheeded.
Hijack someone else's post so we can resume our normal programme.
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Patience my friend, you will usually attract more bees with honey ;)
I just got a response from my contact in Germany. They have stopped producing CorrosionX grease in 1# tubes but will be providing them in 100g containers...to be out in July. No word on the price as of yet.
Bryan
Hmmm. That sounds ominous Bryan.
I know they employed this strategy in the Reel grease market and bumped the price up on the small containers.
Thanks for checking mate.
Keep an ear out in July and let me know what you hear.
Maybe interested in a bulk purchase if the price is OK.
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