Morning all. Recently purchased 2 Monofils. A grey 25 & green 26. I plan to upgrade to the 13-200 pinion on both as well as replace the drags. I also plan to narrow the 25. If I've read correctly I'll need a 29L-100 spool for this. What post/seat options do I have other than a tib frame? Newell 220 posts/reel seat? Also what size drag washers would I need?
Well, I know it uses (3) 6-155 drag washers.
The other info will come up soon I'm sure.
Tommy
What color Gray Monofil 25 did you get light Gray or Dark Gray? I'm looking for the Dark Gray one. I'm finishing the Light Gray one today, it will be a shelf reel with its cousins.
Mike
30-49 stand and 37-180 frame posts. You can get stainless ones on ebay. Or you can go with Black Pearl's spacer bars.
They turn out great w/a Tiburon frame: :)
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/P1000612_zpsedrtd84l.jpg)
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I want to keep the Green Reel the way the factory made it. I bought it new in the '60's. The same way I did the Lite Gray on today.
Mike
I have a Monofil 27 that came with steel gears. You can also use a stand number 30-180. Scott's has post and stands to narrow your 25 to a 27 but I don't think they have spools. My 27 came with a Newell aluminum spool but I also have a Newell G220F that has a graphite spool and I may swap them.
Here is my 27, it is maroon in color but these pics were taken indoors at night.
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/SoCalAngler1/IMG_0577_zpshddc0il3.jpg)
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As you can also see I swapped out the stock handle.
Mike it's the light grey. I do plan to keep the green reel factory width just upgrade the pinion drag & possibly SS gear sleeve if they're still available
Aiala the silver tib frame would also look great on the grey as I've seen on another thread here
Shark hunter & SoCalAngler. Thanks for the info on the posts. So if I have a Newell 220 I can use the spool, posts, & seat?
That is a beautiful green 25 mono with that Tib frame and aluminum spool, Aiala --
Post Office sez your little 146 Jr. will arrive today -- if it did not come a day earlier yesterday -- let me know how you like it.
These little Bantamweight Penns are tough to beat either stock -- or just with a few key upgrades -- frame, drags, UG Delrin, spool, handle, clamp.
Of course, you can't buy a greenie cheap -- but as a rule the Monos, 180s, SMs, & JMs are usually cheap at yard sales -- then you will spend anywhere from $15 to $85 for the upgrades -- and you have a lifetime tough and capable little workhorse.
Best,
Fred
Quote from: TommyK on October 10, 2015, 12:30:53 PM
Mike it's the light grey. I do plan to keep the green reel factory width just upgrade the pinion drag & possibly SS gear sleeve if they're still available
Aiala the silver tib frame would also look great on the grey as I've seen on another thread here
Shark hunter & SoCalAngler. Thanks for the info on the posts. So if I have a Newell 220 I can use the spool, posts, & seat?
The Neweel 220 bars and seat are the same length as the Monofil 27 posts and seat length but I have not tried swapping the Penn posts with the Newell bars or reel seat. I'm not sure the screw holes line up correctly on the two.
If you have a Newell 220 I would not take any parts off it for a Monofil no matter what color. The 220's IMO are better, stronger and offer more drag. If your going to fish a reel in that size I'd choose the 220 especially if it has 5:1 gears.
For me I don't need a frame or bars for strength to fish 20 lb test or lighter on the Momofil's, but they do look alright. With their little drags you could bump it up to 25 lb test but that's kind of pushing these reels. Now the 220 you could fish up to 40 lb test but 30 lb and lower is where I like to fish my reel.
Edit: I just tried swapping the spools between the Monofil and the 220 and they are NOT able to swap. The Penn is spool is taller/wider from spool edge to edge.
Thanks SoCal. Yes no doubt the 220 is a better reel in just about every aspect. It was more of a curiosity question than anything else. So the 29L-100 is the proper spool to narrow this reel correct?
Quote from: foakes on October 10, 2015, 03:50:44 PM
That is a beautiful green 25 mono with that Tib frame and aluminum spool, Aiala -- Post Office sez your little 146 Jr. will arrive today -- if it did not come a day earlier yesterday -- let me know how you like it. Best, Fred
Fred, the 146 arrived safely, and WOW is it a beautiful little gem! I cannot thank you enough for fixing it. (Folks, Fred is a miracle worker!! :o )
You know I am not a shelfie person, but I may just keep this Squidder in pristine condition... after all the work you did to save it, I can't bear the thought of it getting banged up.
But I am planning to take that 25 greenie with me on my 5-day... I'll fill it with 20 lb, and try for a tuna or maybe a dodo. :D
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Aiala, now I want to hear the 'inside' story of 'The Miracle on Fred's Street'! ;D
Quote from: TommyK on October 11, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
Thanks SoCal. Yes no doubt the 220 is a better reel in just about every aspect. It was more of a curiosity question than anything else. So the 29L-100 is the proper spool to narrow this reel correct?
Yes Tommy the 29L-100 is a chrome over brass spool that fits the the Monofil reels.
Guy's and Gal's lets stay on track this thread is about Monofil's. If you want to talk about other reels that's great and I like to see them also but start another thread.
Mark, I just want to mention that the 29L-100 is an aluminum spool.
29L- aluminum
29M- chromed bronze
29P- plastic
Sal
Quote from: Rancanfish on October 11, 2015, 02:58:03 PM
Aiala, now I want to hear the 'inside' story of 'The Miracle on Fred's Street'! ;D
Randy, Fred actually did tell me what he did to fix my reel (it wouldn't freespool when all the posts were tightened), but I freely admit that his explanation was beyond my junior-varsity tinkerer's comprehension. Suffice to say that there's no way in the world I could've done it, hence my unending gratitude to Mr. O. ;)
And now, back to the regularly-scheduled Monofil 25/26 thread. :)
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If going with the Tib frame, check to see if the longer post screws will go all the way into the bottom four "foot" screw holes. They did on my P16 so I upgraded all four shorter foot screws with the longer post screws just for that little bit, at least in my mind, of extra support.
Quote from: Aiala on October 11, 2015, 02:26:55 PM...But I am planning to take that 25 greenie with me on my 5-day... I'll fill it with 20 lb, and try for a tuna or maybe a dodo. :D
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Aiala,
You did know that I fished my 27 on both the 2014 and 2015 SOA charters with 300+ yds of 50lb braid and a 40lb top shot with the drag set to 12lbs, yes?
Wai
Quote from: Porthos on October 11, 2015, 08:21:44 PM
You did know that I fished my 27 on both the 2014 and 2015 SOA charters with 300+ yds of 50lb braid and a 40lb top shot with the drag set to 12lbs, yes?
Wai
Those little gears are tough, not sure about the brass, but I know the steel gears would handle 12lbs.
Wai, didn't you swap the pinion on those and use one with the reinforced ring by the notch?
Quote from: Alto Mare on October 12, 2015, 12:22:01 AM
Quote from: Porthos on October 11, 2015, 08:21:44 PM
You did know that I fished my 27 on both the 2014 and 2015 SOA charters with 300+ yds of 50lb braid and a 40lb top shot with the drag set to 12lbs, yes?
Wai
Those little gears are tough, not sure about the brass, but I know the steel gears would handle 12lbs.
Wai, didn't you swap the pinion on those and use one with the reinforced ring by the notch?
Yep, did so almost two years ago. The original 13-155 pinion I'd would hesitate to go pass 7-8lbs on.
There are many of us that like these little reels, maybe Alan C. could make us some heat treated ss gears for these and the Squidder as well. Can't ask him now, he has way too much going on at the moment.
These little reels are tough and a lot of fun --
But when upgrading, at least for me --
First comes a solid aluminum half frame, then SS & CF greased drags, Delrin UG washer, upgraded handle, aluminum spool, 20 lb mono or 40 lb braid -- that's it.
Then, in the unlikely event I blow the gears on a surprise large fish -- I just replace them.
This is particularly good for me on the Squidder Jrs. -- because of the bearings instead of bushings.
Just like building a house -- start with an unbreakable, solid foundation -- and you never have to worry about frame warp or twist with higher drag numbers.
Just keeping it a little cheaper -- and just my style and opinion.
Best,
Fred
This fish was caught on the same gears as these reels:
http://alantani.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12247.0;attach=8964;image
Quote from: Alto Mare on October 11, 2015, 06:43:29 PM
Mark, I just want to mention that the 29L-100 is an aluminum spool.
29L- aluminum
29M- chromed bronze
29P- plastic
Sal
Thanks for the heads up, I got my info strait from Scott's web site and did not check any further.
Wish I could help out with which Newell spool fits the #27's but this is all I have as far as a model number.
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I was told this is a Newell spool and I assumed the CN on the spool stood for Carl Newell but I could be wrong... you know what assumptions make.
Edit: I checked Scott's again and yep I was wrong.
I have a "Newell" spool that i've dry fitted before into my maroon "27" (a narrowed 26). It has the same markings as yours.
A quick check with the ruler on the rubber Boca Bearing workmat shows:
- Spool diameter: 55mm
- Spool width: 42mm
- Axle width (tip to tip): 70mm
Hope that helps.
Yes this spool is in my 27 but one of the questions was would a Newell spool for 220 fit into the Monofil's and he answer is no. The spool for the Monofil would fit into the Newell but you would have a big gap between the rings and make the reel a line eating machine.
Quote from: Porthos on October 11, 2015, 08:21:44 PM
Aiala, you did know that I fished my 27 on both the 2014 and 2015 SOA charters with 300+ yds of 50lb braid and a 40lb top shot with the drag set to 12lbs, yes? Wai
Wai, I wasn't aware of that, but it's encouraging to know!
As per your recommendation I've got the reinforced pinion, and also an upgraded drag from Lee. I haven't filled the reel yet... I've ordered some 65-lb spectra, do you think that would be too heavy? Also, what length is your 40-lb topshot? :)
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I think 65lb would reduce your main line capacity to below 300yds, but if you're comfortable with that then go for it. My 40lb top shot is between 20-30ft.