Any suggestions on selling or upgrades availability
The 114H is a very capable reel.
The upgrades are as abundant as your wallet will allow.
Stainless gears, sleeve, insert kit, aluminum frame and handle upgrade will put it over the top.
Selling it will depend on its condition.
Just a standard upgrade of the drag stack is really all you need to tangle with some big fish.
Sort of depends on what kind of fishing you want to do.
If I keep it I want to use it for shark maybe tuna run like 60 or 80 pound but the upgrades are pretty pricy and I can pretty much get a new reel for that much .what would I really need to upgrade to use it for tuna besides drags.
Quote from: Wicho5981 on October 25, 2015, 04:49:55 AM
If I keep it I want to use it for shark maybe tuna run like 60 or 80 pound but the upgrades are pretty pricy and I can pretty much get a new reel for that much .what would I really need to upgrade to use it for tuna besides drags.
Considering what you'll be using the reel for, you will be better off with the upgraded 114HL.
upgrading it with the custom insert, ss sleeve and Pro Challenger gears will set you back appro. $160.
The reel will be unmatched in that price range.
Sal
I picked up another 114H recently. It is mainly going to be a bait rod for a trot line in the surf. All it will be getting is an aluminum spool, stainless sleeve and a 7 Stack from Bryan.
If You want to use that reel for Shark and Tuna, I think these two upgrades will be needed.
For 60-80# fish just add one of Alan's handles and fish it.
I'm going to look around for parts to upgrade and when Don I'll upload photo on it
What else I'm I missing
You will likely want a 7 stack from Brian (w/delron undergear washer), a SS yoke, and dog. You should be able to get what you need from Dawn at Smoothdrag.
http://smoothdrag.com
here is the thread on Brian's drag stack...
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12788.0
Get yourself some Penn Blue, and Cal's drag grease as well (if you don't already have some).
Dawn should be able to get you most of what you need.
You may want to check out handle upgrade options from Alan Tani, Dawn, or Adam as well.
I don't think you'll be winching big ones in with 3.25:1 gears! Everything else sounds good but overkill... Go for it!
Enlighten me on gear ratio than
Quote from: MarkT on October 25, 2015, 09:31:09 PM
I don't think you'll be winching big ones in with 3.25:1 gears! Everything else sounds good but overkill... Go for it!
Why not Mark? It has been done for many years. Yes, I know a two speed would make things easier, but don't count this one out.
Penn knew what they were doing, all of their single speed Senator reels are well balanced.
These numbers are very close:
retrieval:
113H = 30" per crank ...3.25:1 ratio....with the custom set 4:1 ( 34" per crank)
114H = 30" per crank.........................with the custom set 3.25:1 ( 33" per crank)
115L = 30" per crank......2.5:1............with the custom set 2.8:1 ( 33" per crank)
116 = 30" per crank......2:1
118 = 30" per crank......1.6:1
The new custom 3.25:1 gear set is a tad faster, Accurate showed us they'll do just fine.
Wicho, look around, there is lots of info spread out. Here is another you might want to consider as well:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13341.0
The drags will be extremely smooth at 30-35 lbs
If the 2.8:1 gears get you 30" per crank the 3.25:1 will get you 35". If you can crank on 60-80#ers with that then more power to you. To each his own but personally, I'm in low when it gets to be a tug of war.
My 114hl has a Tib frame and I use it for trolling. If it were narrowed I'd want the 3.25's for yoyoing. 3.25:1 in a 6/0 is about the same speed as 4:1 in a 4/0.
Yup! it's up to the individual.
A little longer arm will slow it down a bit while giving it more cranking power.
For bait I'd stick with the stock gears but speed 'em up for jigging. Either way I'd go with a bigger handle. The fish interface with the reel via the drags while you interface with the handle.
Thanks for all your suggestion I should be done with this project by Christmas time might even throw in tib frame. I'll post pics when I'm done.
I could get it done for you in a half hour, but you've mentioned Tiburon frame. I have narrowed Tiburon kits, but those are not cheap :-\.
If you're not in a hurry, take your time and purchase a little at a time.
You should have spacer bars on that reel, those are better than the round posts. You might not need a frame.
I'm in no hurry most likely do little at a time . Its going to be nice to have my first custom. The tib frame is expensive most likely I won't buy.
I bought mine years ago with a nice red Tiburon frame for $120. They haven't gone up in price since then... look what tld20's with Tib frames go for! It may be cheaper to get one with a frame, swap parts around, then sell one that's more or less stock.
Wicho,
You also need a stainless yoke with those gears. Dawn has them.