Greetings to all from Rome.
I need your opinion to find a knot to join the reel nylon to fluorocarbon leader with the same diameter (90/100 pound - 0.80 / 0.90 mm) to be used in tuna drifting.
In a few words I want to find an alternative to using the "wind-on".
Someone told me about the Albright or Albright reverse but it seems that this knot is mainly used to join different diameters only. ???
As for the windon I would put a swivel on the hook tied to the fluorocarbon with a nail knot.
Thanks in advance for the support.
knife
Knife it is good to have you back. I have had success with a Bimini Knot in the nylon and an Albright to attach the leader to the Bimini. Tuna fishing was slow down in Baja this year. Have you had any success with the lure I made for you? Dominick
Uni to uni is THE best knot when similar diameter lines are to be joined, period.
Personally, I wouldn't use a knot for line that heavy. I use crimps, it's fast, easy, and stronger. You need to use a paint pen to color in the crimps. To join the leader to mono use a swivel. To protect the crimps, use chafe tube.
What size tuna are you targeting?
Quote from: fatstriper on November 02, 2015, 03:21:07 AM
Personally, I wouldn't use a knot for line that heavy. I use crimps, it's fast, easy, and stronger. You need to use a paint pen to color in the crimps. To join the leader to mono use a swivel. To protect the crimps, use chafe tube.
What size tuna are you targeting?
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For me when I hit 100 lb test, well 80 for that matter, it usually is for bigger fish so not a big fan for knots in this lb test range. You could use the Seaguar knot for shorter topshots/leaders say around 6-8 feet of fluoro on top of the mono where the knot will not go through the rods guides but I feel crimping is a much better solution.
Quote from: Hamachi on November 02, 2015, 02:19:57 AM
Uni to uni is THE best knot when similar diameter lines are to be joined, period.
I agree it's the best, I use it for all leaders even tying 1.5mm to 1mm steel cable. No need for crimps
A uni to uni with 100lb line.... A uni to uni is fine for lighter lines but will not cinch down well with heavy or stiff line. I have some Andre backcountry 40lb that has trouble with a uni knot.
Don't be afraid to tie a knot in larger diameter lines,guys, this is what he asked, he didn't ask about crimps. Old school.
What about splicing - mainline - hollow core braid - top shot. Served or nail knotted both ends of the hollow. Much stronger than any knot or crimp and no bulk to 'clatter' through the rod rings.
Quote from: fatstriper on November 02, 2015, 07:37:09 AM
A uni to uni with 100lb line.... A uni to uni is fine for lighter lines but will not cinch down well with heavy or stiff line. I have some Andre backcountry 40lb that has trouble with a uni knot.
it works fine in very thick line, makes a very neat and strong knot, Pity I don't have an example here at the office to post! We use an adaptation of the uni-knot called a figure - 8 knot. You only need 3 wraps in very thick line, but 4 or so for thinner diameter. Steel only needs 2 wraps, one over the other. I have stopped experimenting with mono and steel knots, no point, this knot is simple, small and strong. I can cast a 1.2mm leader tied to 0.6mm mono mainline, no problem. I use it for all mono and steel tying. Connecting thin and thick mono, you simply double the thin mono with a bimini or spider hitch and make a uni in the double line. I don't use these knots in braid though. I splice loops in braid or splice 2 braids together or use FG knot to join it to mono
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on November 02, 2015, 10:08:15 AM
What about splicing - mainline - hollow core braid - top shot. Served or nail knotted both ends of the hollow. Much stronger than any knot or crimp and no bulk to 'clatter' through the rod rings.
It will work but you will only get a few % points gain in breaking strain if any. With the double line knot I use you get very close to 100% breaking strain of your mainline if you are using much thinner mainline. It's a rather complicated tying method to use hollow core and nail knots when you have to do it while out fishing?
This man has done a lot of professional testing on lines and knots - it's worth checking his site for info:
http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/4knotstested.htm
I use Uni for everything.That's why it's the uni. My trolling rigs go 50 and 80 mono to 80 and 100 fluoro, no issues. You just need to be careful thet wraps (you can go 4 or 5 on the 80) stay trued up as you snug down. because lines that heavy are springy, as noted above. I snug the knot on the line pretty well before I pull the lines together so everything stays intact. Moisten with saliva to preven burn as you pull tight. Done. I've pulled sharks to 8' up out off the bottom as hard as I could pull with this knot. JMO.
I use the Bristol knot or "No Name" knot as Mark Sosin calls it. It is very low profile, fast and easy to tie and I have never had one break catching many Tuna over 150 pounds with it.
Bimini in the main line and Bristol knot to the Bimini.
It doesn't have to a long Bimini. 8' will be fine and will give you more stretch and double the breaking strength of the main line.
Also a Bimini/Bristol knot fan.
Thanks to everybody.
Hello Dominick, is a pleasure to hear you!
Your lure is always in my fishing bag but this year I did not make offshore trips to swordfish and for large tuna works only the drifting....
Most knots in heavy line are bulky and need large guides to pass through. Have you considered using 5' topshots so the knot never enters the guides?
I'm still a loop to loop fan, low profile and easy to change out a topshot.
Sorry Keta,
"topshot" is a new term for me, I have no idea how it's done.....
Can you help me?
Topshot is just a leader on top of the braid, a wind on is usually a long topshot. Most of my reels have super short topshots, 5-20 feet (2-6 meters). For trolling I use 100' (32 meters) though.
If you keep your topshot/leader shorter than your rod or long enough it seldom comes off your reel any good connection knot will work, I usually use a uni to uni for 50# and under if having to use a knot. Over 50# and most knots start to get large.
I'm assuming you have braid (spectra is one) on your reels.
Of all the braid to mono knots I've tried the strength & ease of tying this one along with its ability to pass through
the guides is unsurpassed. Times I have tested it I've found it breaks at a point higher than the line rating when wet.
The pic is 80 lb. Toro Tamer, hollow braid tied to 60 lb.
Big Game. Tied properly I have been able to cast this with knot passing through guides well over 25 times with out any worries. Need to leave a bit of the braid tag end sticking when you cut it.
https://youtu.be/5z7Xb0iLnQM