Fishing with a friend of mine, and we were trolling. I checked his drag setting and it was
way too high. He said, no it always starts that way and after the first 4-5 inches it get's
easier. I do't own a Shimano and I don't remember the model, so I'll just describe it as best I can. Shimano, gold, star drag, about Penn 113 size.
I told him that I thought something was wrong and that I didn't think Shimano designed
it like that. There really isn't any way to set the drag properly. When the start up drag is
set for the line, after 5 inches you are way too light. Anybody have any ideas?
I'd like to help him out even though he doesn't think he has a problem.
Jaime
Quote from: Jaime on November 19, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
Fishing with a friend of mine, and we were trolling. I checked his drag setting and it was
way too high. He said, no it always starts that way and after the first 4-5 inches it get's
easier. I do't own a Shimano and I don't remember the model, so I'll just describe it as best I can. Shimano, gold, star drag, about Penn 113 size.
I told him that I thought something was wrong and that I didn't think Shimano designed
it like that. There really isn't any way to set the drag properly. When the start up drag is
set for the line, after 5 inches you are way too light. Anybody have any ideas?
I'd like to help him out even though he doesn't think he has a problem.
Jaime
Its probably and older Trini with no drag grease. One of the big advantages of grease is smooth start up, especially at higher drag settings.
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This is not a tough reel to work on, Jaime --
If it were on my bench, I would dissasemble, paying attention to the insides.
John and Chris are right...
If it is hard starting, then eases off at a high drag setting -- the drag discs are likely glazed and toast.
Clean the insides well, grease everything up that needs it, evacuate the bearings and grease them, replace the drag stack if glazed -- with CFs and Cal's drag grease, oil the handle, etc -- and I will be surprised if you do not see an improvement that is better than new.
You should be able to find a schematic on this site.
Good reels -- should have good drag travel -- very smooth from slight application to full lock down.
Post some pics.
Best,
Fred
The problem is, I don't have the reel and the guy that owns it is kind of defensive about
his reel knowledge. He says he greased the drags? I just thought it might be something
obvious to you Shamino people. It's really not worth pursuing for me. Thanks to everybody for the answers. Jaime
yeah, if it's a trinidad, he can easily upgrade to carbontex. that's the direction he needs to go in. :-\
Quote from: alantani on November 20, 2015, 04:54:54 PM
yeah, if it's a trinidad, he can easily upgrade to carbontex. that's the direction he needs to go in. :-\
Yea, he could easily have the old defective Dartanium washers that are all shredded in there.
Quote from: johndtuttle on November 20, 2015, 05:00:50 PM
Quote from: alantani on November 20, 2015, 04:54:54 PM
yeah, if it's a trinidad, he can easily upgrade to carbontex. that's the direction he needs to go in. :-\
Yea, he could easily have the old defective Dartanium washers that are all shredded in there.
Like this John..??
Whoa!
What is dartanium?
hard carbon fiber, no weave, breaks like a tortilla chip. terrible stuff...... :-\
The correct spelling is craptanium.
Had a Torium do the same thing. Stuff seemed to literally melt and goober the insides up. Why they use that stuff is beyond me. Changed over to greased CF and made a huge difference.
Shimano has mostly switched to Dartanium II which is a woven carbon fiber like HT-100 or Carbontex.