eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penn-Jigmaster-501-Excellent-Condition-/221963777813?hash=item33ae127715:g:dtkAAOSw7FRWZ5xy
Can someone tell me if this is a good starter reel for learning Penn's and upgrading with all the goodies?
Thanks!
Happy Holidays!
Yes, that's a 501. The price is OK for its condition, but the shipping looks a little high.
You can pick up a regular 500 cheaper, but narrow is where its at for strength.
Hard to tell from the pics, but I think it's the older red one.
Prices have been up on B.I.N. postings. If I didn't already have 7 or 8 I'd buy it myself. (I won't).
For cross country shipping Priority it's not too far off.
Great simple reel and you probably can have good fun upgrading.
I'll second what Daron said for strength.
Looks like a plastic spool.
Description says aluminum spool. Sure looks like it.
This is pretty much the same deal, and someone has already started the work. It's also in good shape and is an auction, but is (at the time of this posting) $10 less than the price of the one you originally asked about. You can put your money on SS gears and drag washers, and SS bridge/sleeve.
If it were me I'd go with this one at this price ($50)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penn-Jigmaster-500-S-reduced-with-a-Newell-501-bars-reel-seat-spool-kit/221960689187?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D34883%26meid%3D7a6e32950ce74bcb9b55a747beb3d28a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D131671635504
Quote from: sdlehr on December 11, 2015, 06:14:24 AM
This is pretty much the same deal, and someone has already started the work. It's also in good shape and is an auction, but is (at the time of this posting) $10 less than the price of the one you originally asked about. You can put your money on SS gears and drag washers, and SS bridge/sleeve.
If it were me I'd go with this one at this price ($50)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penn-Jigmaster-500-S-reduced-with-a-Newell-501-bars-reel-seat-spool-kit/221960689187?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D34883%26meid%3D7a6e32950ce74bcb9b55a747beb3d28a%26pid%3D100005% 26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D131671635504
I'll bet when the bidding is done it will be at least $80.
Rudy is right. Your listing is a buy it now. The $10 cheaper one is just an auction.
I can sell you one of mine, but it will be the same price. $60 is the going rate for one it that condition.
I would jump on it if I were looking for one.
Done! Now for the goodies! What do I need to upgrade this beast? I am open to all options! If you were going to beef this one up what would you do if budget was not an option?
><>>>'>
Quote from: steelhead_killer on December 12, 2015, 12:31:54 AM
Done! Now for the goodies! What do I need to upgrade this beast? I am open to all options! If you were going to beef this one up what would you do if budget was not an option?
><>>>'>
Money not an issue???
How about some Magnum plates and spool 😃
Hey Al! Good to see you. ;D
Steelhead, the options are endless.
Check out some threads on here. There are a lot of different routes to go.
I would put a Tib Frame on it, ss sleeve, double dog bridge, custom spacer, upgrade the gears, Power Handle.
Tom has the custom side plates now as well.
Quote from: steelhead_killer on December 12, 2015, 12:31:54 AM
Done! Now for the goodies! What do I need to upgrade this beast? I am open to all options! If you were going to beef this one up what would you do if budget was not an option?
><>>>'>
Here are my thoughts on upgrading a jigmaster, more or less in order of priority:
1. Stainless steel gear sleeve from Alan Tani (I think it can also be purchased from Mysticparts.com)
2. 5+1 drag stack from Bryan Young
3. SS double dog bridge, yoke & jack from Pro Challenger
4. Either steel or stainless steel gears. SS gears can be purchased from Pro Challenger. Steel gears can be scavenged from an older jigmaster, or perhaps yours already has them.
5. One piece aluminum frame, e.g. Tiburon P21.
6. Accuplates.
I have a standard-width jigmaster 500 that has items 1-5 on the above list (P20 frame, rather than P21), and it is a beast. I use it for grouper fishing with 60 lb mono and fairly heavy drag settings (around 20 lb), and it performs at least as well as a stock 4/0. At some point I might add Accuplates for "coolness factor", but I don't really feel they are needed for functionality, and the cost is pretty high.
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Quote from: DaBigOno on December 12, 2015, 02:08:24 AM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on December 12, 2015, 12:31:54 AM
Done! Now for the goodies! What do I need to upgrade this beast? I am open to all options! If you were going to beef this one up what would you do if budget was not an option?
><>>>'>
Money not an issue???
How about some Magnum plates and spool 😃
Magnum plates? where would i find them please
or these side plates by Cortez Conversions...
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=16099.0
Ok so here goes! Before I start shelling out cash for parts can I get someone with more experience to confirm what I am ordering?
1. Bought a Penn 501
2. Need to buy the Cortez Conversions side plates and bearing cap
3. Need to buy a Tiburon P21 topless frame
4. Need to buy the Pro Challenger Stainless Steel gear set Package C
5. 5+1 Drag Stack from Bryon Young
6. Stainless Steel gear sleeve from Alan Tani
7. Stainless Steel Spacer?
8. Handle/Knob from?
Looking for some help determining the proper handle knob configuration and how to acquire them. Any chance of getting stainless screws to replace the stock screws in hex or Torx? What else am I missing?
Thanks for the help!
Cortez Conv. side plates will come with ss hex screws. Handle arms from Three Se7ens & knobs from many manufacturers, whatever you like. SS spacer from Pro Challenger.
Sounds like you have some money to spend. ;D
The Boss is on Vacation, If he were here, I'm sure he tell us to Stifle! :D
Steelhead,
This reel came from a member here. I'm pretty sure it has a steel main gear and an upgraded stack.
Everyone has their own opinion, especially ones that can't afford the mods you are doing.
Not you Al, I've seen some of your hot rods. ;)
Here is what I would do.
Tib frame and Tom's plates. Double dog ss bridge.
ss sleeve, handle and knob.
I sent a PM.
Quote from: sdlehr on December 11, 2015, 06:14:24 AM
If it were me I'd go with this one at this price ($50)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penn-Jigmaster-500-S-reduced-with-a-Newell-501-bars-reel-seat-spool-kit/221960689187?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D34883%26meid%3D7a6e32950ce74bcb9b55a747beb3d28a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D131671635504
This actually ended up selling for $49.99 and I missed it because I entered a bid of $50 at the last minute and the minimum bid was $50.49 (hand smacks forehead!)
Sid
Don't forget a plug if you prefer not to have a clicker
What are your thoughts on a reel handle and knob? Seems like several on here are nice. Any chance to get a green handle and round green knob? What about a green alum spool to match? Or am I just dreaming?
I think your dreaming.
The handle arm from Adam. (Three Se7ens) The Handle knob options are up to you.
You can go aluminum t-bar, round aluminum, Kokelar or eva.
Check out Smooth Drag, Black Pearl, and Alan distributes the Kokelar.
You might also want to check with a builder. Keith(aka handi2) has a stock of all types and I'm sure will sell you one.
Quote from: steelhead_killer on December 14, 2015, 03:17:14 AM
What are your thoughts on a reel handle and knob? Seems like several on here are nice. Any chance to get a green handle and round green knob? What about a green alum spool to match? Or am I just dreaming?
Are you any good with a paint brush?? ;D ;D Just kidding, I couldn't resist that.
Quote from: steelhead_killer on December 14, 2015, 03:17:14 AM
What about a green alum spool to match? Or am I just dreaming?
no you are not dreaming, if you have disposable income you can have your aluminum spool refinished by having it anodized or pm Cortez_Conversions and most probably his sources will do it for you. hope this helps! tight lines...
Ok here goes---> Reel came with a SS sleeve that fits tight. When installed the handle is tight, but turning the handle is also more difficult. Like it is binding on the gear sleeve or something. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Andy ???
Sal will tell you just to keep cranking and it will wear / break in after a while.
I have the same issue on a couple. I just walked around cranking and playing with it. It gets a bit better.
Sometimes the pin on the gear sleeve does not line up exactly with the bridge post groove -- enough to cause an issue.
Take it apart -- remove the pin -- see if it still binds -- then try it with the pin back in under pressure.
That should determine the problem.
Best,
Fred
Thanks Gents! I will do both! Happy Holidays!
Is the reel well lubed? If you view several of Alan's tutorials, you will get the idea.
Glad you got my old reel :) As posted in the listing she needs to be lubed, I had it oiled for sitting on the shelf, all grease was removed. I got it from another member here and ended up going way farther with my Accurate than anticipated, haha.
Looking forward to your progress. All the best.
Quote from: steelhead_killer on December 13, 2015, 02:14:16 AM
Ok so here goes! Before I start shelling out cash for parts can I get someone with more experience to confirm what I am ordering?
1. Bought a Penn 501 - Done
2. Need to buy the Cortez Conversions side plates and bearing cap- Done
3. Need to buy a Tiburon P21 topless frame - Done
4. Need to buy the Pro Challenger Stainless Steel gear set Package C- Done
5. 5+1 Drag Stack from Bryon Young- Already installed
6. Stainless Steel gear sleeve from Alan Tani- shipped
7. Stainless Steel Spacer?- Not ordered yet
8. Handle/Knob from?- Knob EVA, handle is still in limbo,
Thanks for the help!
Quote from: steelhead_killer on December 26, 2015, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on December 13, 2015, 02:14:16 AM
Ok so here goes! Before I start shelling out cash for parts can I get someone with more experience to confirm what I am ordering?
1. Bought a Penn 501 - Done
2. Need to buy the Cortez Conversions side plates and bearing cap- Done
3. Need to buy a Tiburon P21 topless frame - Done
4. Need to buy the Pro Challenger Stainless Steel gear set Package C- Done
5. 5+1 Drag Stack from Bryon Young- Already installed
6. Stainless Steel gear sleeve from Alan Tani- shipped
7. Stainless Steel Spacer?- Not ordered yet
8. Handle/Knob from?- Knob EVA, handle is still in limbo,
Thanks for the help!
What was the total cost on all that???
Now I'm wondering why you purchased that 501 ;D.
Very good question. The next build will be done with the same upgrades but just buying a few parts of eBay....Live and learn...
Quote from: steelhead_killer on December 26, 2015, 11:38:19 PM
Very good question. The next build will be done with the same upgrades but just buying a few parts of eBay....Live and learn...
Just joking, I'm sure you still did good, a spool alone in decent shape will set you back over $40.
A donor reel is cheaper than buying the parts. Springs, shift lever, bridge screws, eccentric. We know Sal has drawers full of those parts, but for the rest of us it isn't that simple.
I recently bought a handful of donor jigmasters, so don't feel alone in that regard. Us northwest guys gotta stick together when the east lashes out at us. ;) ;)
I am pretty thick skinned! But I will always take the support! We all learn in different ways! I'm just slower than most!
Quote from: Max Doubt on December 27, 2015, 02:10:27 AM
A donor reel is cheaper than buying the parts. Springs, shift lever, bridge screws, eccentric. We know Sal has drawers full of those parts, but for the rest of us it isn't that simple.
I recently bought a handful of donor jigmasters, so don't feel alone in that regard. Us northwest guys gotta stick together when the east lashes out at us. ;) ;)
That's the thing Steelhead,
Whether its a 501, a surfmaster, beachmaster, or Senator. Once you start collecting, You will have enough inventory to make whatever you wish. ;)
Ok I have it all together with the thinned down spacer. Everything is great except I am getting some movement that I can't fix. The movement is coming from the gear sleeve, I think? When grasping the star drag I can pull out the gear sleeve about 2/16 of an inch. Is this amount of play normal? What am I missing?
When you first got the reel, you said it was real tight. Now its loose?
Is the sleeve double drilled for two different pin locations?
If so, you need to go back to the tight setting.
You might be referring to the play that Sal discussed here....
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 13, 2013, 01:11:36 AM
Erik, those are not easy to find, I make my own.
The dimentions are ID 7.25mm OD 11.5mm. Thickness is usually .10mm.
SoCalPaddle here is a picture of what I mentioned above
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/parsts%20an%20such/004-10.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/parsts%20an%20such/004-10.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/parsts%20an%20such/005-17.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/parsts%20an%20such/005-17.jpg.html)
By the way, McMasters Carr does carry the shims for the 113H, I use these Peel-Away Shims
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/parsts%20an%20such/009-14.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/parsts%20an%20such/009-14.jpg.html)
Item #90902A221
Quote from: Shark Hunter on December 30, 2015, 10:58:33 AM
When you first got the reel, you said it was real tight. Now its loose?
Is the sleeve double drilled for two different pin locations?
If so, you need to go back to the tight setting.
That was a different issue solved with the spacer. This is the gear sleeve.
If there is not a second hole for the pin. You will need to shim it up to take the slop out.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on December 30, 2015, 05:07:57 PM
If there is not a second hole for the pin. You will need to shim it up to take the slop out.
I guess I missed the two hole conversation along the way. It does have two holes so I'll try that tonight
Once again, Thank you for the help!
Quote from: DaBigOno on December 30, 2015, 01:48:23 PM
You might be referring to the play that Sal discussed here....
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 13, 2013, 01:11:36 AM
Erik, those are not easy to find, I make my own.
The dimentions are ID 7.25mm OD 11.5mm. Thickness is usually .10mm.
SoCalPaddle here is a picture of what I mentioned above
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/parsts%20an%20such/004-10.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/parsts%20an%20such/004-10.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/parsts%20an%20such/005-17.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/parsts%20an%20such/005-17.jpg.html)
By the way, McMasters Carr does carry the shims for the 113H, I use these Peel-Away Shims
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/parsts%20an%20such/009-14.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/parsts%20an%20such/009-14.jpg.html)
Item #90902A221
Yep this fixed it. Now I have to try and find another spacer that I just happened to have. Does anyone stock these so I don't have to buy 24 of them at a time?
My local Ace hardware stocks a mylar washer .015" thick at various dimensions.
$0.80 per.
Works good.
Guys a hint of play with the sleeve is fine, you don't want to completely remove it. When things heat up on a long fight, it would be a good thing to have it there.
I don't like excessive sideway play as well, but I try not to make it crazy tight.
Sal
Perrrrrfect!
Finally got everything in the mail today to complete the Green Hornet! (nod to the Oregon Ducks) All I can say is WOW this turned out much better than I had hoped! Small adjustments here and there but all and all just a great end product! All help and parts from members! Thank you everyone from a happy camper in Seattle:
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/photoHumboldt/IMG_6429_zpsxdxkxeuu.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/photoHumboldt/media/IMG_6429_zpsxdxkxeuu.jpg.html)(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/photoHumboldt/IMG_6427_zpsoyf5fcog.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/photoHumboldt/media/IMG_6427_zpsoyf5fcog.jpg.html)(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/photoHumboldt/space%20needle%20seattle%20flight_zpsvkai6xwm.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/photoHumboldt/media/space%20needle%20seattle%20flight_zpsvkai6xwm.jpg.html)
Handsome looking reel!
Glad that your happy with it
That's one SWEET lookin reel!!!! 8)
Turned out amazing! Well done!