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Title: penn parts
Post by: Alto Mare on December 17, 2015, 02:46:22 AM
I was lucky enough to grab some penn parts from the old penn.
These are right up my alley, i love to see how things are made, I have some interesting stuff here, i'm a happy camper.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0103.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0103.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0105.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0105.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0108.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0108.jpg.html)
This small lot even came with an older 650ss almost complete is new condition, not bad for $85
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0106.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0106.jpg.html)
Can anyone tell me what these tools were used for, were they used for stamping?
I'm talking about the 3 pieces with teeth and the 3 pieces in front, those are heavy for their size.

I'm glad I grabbed these parts.

Sal
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Tightlines667 on December 17, 2015, 02:51:20 AM
That some pretty cool stuff you've got there sal.  Maybe Mike, or someone else, knows a bit more about what some of that stuff is exactly?
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Alto Mare on December 17, 2015, 02:56:50 AM
I know all of the parts John, I have those reels, most are for spinners. I would like to know about these tools.
I thought I posted the pic, I'll do it here:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0116.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0116.jpg.html)
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Tightlines667 on December 17, 2015, 03:04:07 AM
That's what I meant... unfinished parts..or tools.  Do you have any educated guesses?
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Alto Mare on December 17, 2015, 03:12:32 AM
John, if you look at the pic above, that half toothed circle on the left matches the tip of that tool.
I'm guessing the 3 pieces with teeth are stamping tools for ratchets, but not 100% on it.
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Tightlines667 on December 17, 2015, 03:20:36 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 17, 2015, 03:12:32 AM
John, if you look at the pic above, that half toothed circle on the left matches the tip of that tool.
I'm guessing the 3 pieces with teeth are stamping tools for ratchets, but not 100% on it.

I was thinking along the ssme lines, looks like a stamping, or rolling tool for a ratchet.  I see some 2 speed early International gear sleeves in the mix.  Interesting how Penn has their name stamped on that sheet of metal.  Not sure about those shafts... are they finished products?
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Alto Mare on December 17, 2015, 03:38:59 AM
The parts at the bottom, on the pic above are gear shafts for the 700 series. The penn stamped on the sheet of metal is the same name you see on their handles. If you look closer you could see the shape of the handles.
I bet I could get a few bucks for that piece alone from a collector, but none are for sale.
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: PacRat on December 17, 2015, 03:56:36 AM
Sal,
The piece with 'Penn' stamped on it looks like a screwdriver/wrench combo tool.
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: gstours on December 17, 2015, 04:12:11 AM
Hi Sal;  an inquiziting mind is a terrible thing to waste!   Cool find for a penn dude! 
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: PacRat on December 17, 2015, 04:24:14 AM
Looks like an International wrench stamping but it looks like it's for a scalloped handle nut rather than a hex nut like the wrench in the attached photo.
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Three se7ens on December 17, 2015, 04:53:06 AM
The flat sheets with the holes cut in them look like drops from stampings, or more likely errors (not everything stamped properly).  The holes on the edges of these sheets are probably for an automatic feed on the stamping press.

The gear shapes with the square end look like the upper end of a stamping die.  Not much good without the matching lower die though. 
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: reelrepair123 on December 17, 2015, 05:55:57 AM
fantastic sal , those great parts will be put to very good use by the master, nice.     harryk
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Shark Hunter on December 17, 2015, 06:00:09 AM
Sal,
You say you got these parts from old penn?
Do you mean from the factory?
Just the reel and the three handles next to it are worth the price.
Just wondering how you came across these relics.
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Alto Mare on December 17, 2015, 11:15:37 AM
Thanks guys for helping out with some info.
Adam, defective stamped parts and some missing parts makes it that much more valuable to me. Think about it, I'm holding parts that a machinist from over 80 years ago used and not to mention they came from the best company in the world at that time ;D

Daron, I spotted these on line, I did not chase other bidders, I just gave it a bid of $110 and received an email that I won it at $85.
Good catch on old penn, yes these are from the old factory in Philadelphia from when they shot their doors.
I guesstimate this small lot to be over $500 in value, that is for the parts alone, way more valuable to me though.
I bet some collectors would go crazy for some of these scraps, but as I mentioned above, they're not for sale.
Here are a couple of closeups:
Some parts while being machined
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0122.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0122.jpg.html)
some spool shafts on the upper left corner
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0120.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0120.jpg.html)
Here is a shot of that almost complete 650SS
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0123.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0123.jpg.html)
this reel looked a mess, but it now looks new
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0126.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0126.jpg.html)
I have sold this particular older model 650SS for over $150 in the past.

Thanks again everyone.

Sal
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: sdlehr on December 17, 2015, 02:46:17 PM
Congrats on a pretty shrewd purchase, Sal. I see why you're so happy.
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: foakes on December 17, 2015, 08:41:03 PM
Hi Sal --

Everyone has their own ideas about display --

If these were my parts, I would just separate the usable parts from the tooling items --

Then I would install all of the tooling items in a shadow box, attach a nice engraved explanation placard to it -- and hang it on the wall in your shop or den.  That way you could see the display once in a while, and the items would stay together.

I use this system for displaying disassembled exploded 3D examples of reels.  These I leave at certain sporting goods and hardware stores, along with my business cards.  It makes a nice display -- and I just pick up reels for service and repair once a week, along a pre-set route --

You can get the boxes at craft stores like Michaels, etc..  Generally I wait until they have a 50% off sale -- which is nearly all of the time.

It makes an impressive and interesting display.

No one else is going to appreciate these tooling parts and materials -- to look and wonder about -- except for us reel-nerds -- so they might as well be where we can enjoy them.

Best,

Fred

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/7AF4FB55-EA57-49D5-8E0C-1718BD450310_zpszug6ccoz.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/7AF4FB55-EA57-49D5-8E0C-1718BD450310_zpszug6ccoz.jpg.html)
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: coastal_dan on December 17, 2015, 09:09:50 PM
Too stinkin' cool!!!! Well done Sal.  Those pieces of 'scrap' to some are what it's all about!  The process is just as important/interesting as the final product.  Great find and it couldn't have gone to a more deserving collector.
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on December 18, 2015, 02:33:17 AM
Sal,
As mentioned, a lot of that is scrap and unfinished parts. The old saying about another man's treasure comes to mind. Feel free to send me pics and I'll try to give you descriptions. That's a nice haul and I personally think they are a pretty cool addition to your collection
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Dominick on December 18, 2015, 03:45:21 AM
Sal the junk man turns junk into gold.  :D ;D  Good going pal.  Dominick
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: BMITCH on December 18, 2015, 12:05:47 PM
Sal, I cant think of a better home than with you...nice score!!
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Alto Mare on December 18, 2015, 12:31:09 PM
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: ez2cdave on December 18, 2015, 07:37:00 PM
Too bad ALAN "hates spinners" . . . Otherwise, he might be "SALIVATING" . . .  LOL ! ! !

Merry Christmas & Tight Lines !
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Tightlines667 on December 18, 2015, 08:59:57 PM
I like Fred's suggestion, and am going to have to swing by Michael's to look into those 'sale items'.
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: Alto Mare on December 18, 2015, 10:04:22 PM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on December 18, 2015, 08:59:57 PM
I like Fred's suggestion, ND am going to have to swing by Michael's to look into those 'sale items'.
Yes, me too. Those would be neat for displaying these small scraps of metal that make us happy.
Thanks for the suggestion Fred, I was thinking of making a few, but can't beat the cost.

Sal
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: handi2 on December 19, 2015, 01:08:00 AM
That is cool Sal. I see many unfinished stampings, spinning reel pinion gears, and many other unfinished parts.
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: foakes on December 19, 2015, 01:34:26 AM
Got a few more shadowboxes to do for stores on my route.

These are around $25 - $30 generally -- but if you watch the sales once a month -- they can be bought for around $12 - $15.

I am a woodworker -- but I can't even buy the materials for that price.

Plus it comes with good hangers, glass, and is tamper-proof.

Looks good with a 209 or a complicated spinner completely taken apart, all parts clean, and each piece organized and glued to a nice contrasting high visibility color such as yellow, light green, light blue.

Along with my business card.

Encourages folks to be curious about their reels, and either feel they can do it themselves -- or more likely let a pro do it right.

Just an idea that works for me.

Best,

Fred

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/C2D3E5BE-72F5-4371-9D85-0C2C3EB1BB9B_zpsjbttq2aq.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/C2D3E5BE-72F5-4371-9D85-0C2C3EB1BB9B_zpsjbttq2aq.jpg.html)


Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: swill88 on December 19, 2015, 02:11:47 AM
Quote from: foakes on December 19, 2015, 01:34:26 AM
Got a few more shadowboxes to do for stores on my route.

These are around $25 - $30 generally -- but if you watch the sales once a month -- they can be bought for around $12 - $15.

I am a woodworker -- but I can't even buy the materials for that price.

Plus it comes with good hangers, glass, and is tamper-proof.

Looks good with a 209 or a complicated spinner completely taken apart, all parts clean, and each piece organized and glued to a nice contrasting high visibility color such as yellow, light green, light blue.

Along with my business card.

Encourages folks to be curious about their reels, and either feel they can do it themselves -- or more likely let a pro do it right.

Just an idea that works for me.

Best,

Fred

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/C2D3E5BE-72F5-4371-9D85-0C2C3EB1BB9B_zpsjbttq2aq.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/C2D3E5BE-72F5-4371-9D85-0C2C3EB1BB9B_zpsjbttq2aq.jpg.html)





Can't beat that price - no doubt made in Thailand or Vietnam.
I've tried to match site built cabs with ikea... can't be done.
It's all good.
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: foakes on December 19, 2015, 02:33:30 AM
Sez "Hecho in China"...

They are surprisingly heavy duty and well made.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: mo65 on November 02, 2016, 03:50:51 PM
   What a great haul! I've circled the stamping in the pic below because it appears to be the makings of the elusive Levelmatic wrench I recently had Lee make for me. A rare wrench indeed...I've only seen one sell on fleabay in the past 6 months and it brought a premium. The second pic is the wrench Lee made, and the third is the original Penn wrench. 8)
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: thorhammer on November 02, 2016, 04:29:29 PM
hmmmm. I still have some of my 930 boxes...going to go check for these guys....
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: foakes on November 02, 2016, 04:56:28 PM
That sure is a top quality wrench that Lee made for you, Mo.

I have seen some little Penn wrenches I think -- as I have gone through old bins from closed tackle shops.

Never paid them much attention -- and just looked through the Penn wrench inventory -- and do not have one of those.  Probably will find a few over the next few years as I get a chance to go through more old storage bins.

Best,

Fred

Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: thorhammer on November 02, 2016, 05:05:19 PM
Fred for the benefit of the AT Ohani, I propose we contract Pickers to do a professional documentary on your collection / inventory.  :).

Hope you are well and working through the logs. 

John
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: ez2cdave on November 02, 2016, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: mo65 on November 02, 2016, 03:50:51 PM
   What a great haul! I've circled the stamping in the pic below because it appears to be the makings of the elusive Levelmatic wrench I recently had Lee make for me. A rare wrench indeed...I've only seen one sell on fleabay in the past 6 months and it brought a premium. 8)

I just searched through my tools and found this . . .

(http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n561/Ez2cDave/LEVELMATIC%20WRENCH.jpg~original)

Tight Lines !
Title: Re: penn parts
Post by: foakes on November 02, 2016, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on November 02, 2016, 05:05:19 PM
Fred for the benefit of the AT Ohani, I propose we contract Pickers to do a professional documentary on your collection / inventory.  :).

Hope you are well and working through the logs. 

John

Thanks, John --

Will get a good dent in the logs this year, before weather kicks in -- plenty to keep for Spring and times when it is not snowing during the Winter.

Right now, I am completing as much as possible by dragging, felling, slicing, bucking, splitting -- as time allows.

We received 3 1/4" of rain out of the last storm -- still a little too warm for snow.  When the snow hits, we will be burning as much slash as we can.

Been getting back somewhat to working on a reel repair backlog -- enjoyable work.

As to the "Pickers" -- we all need to realize that there are likely only a few hundred folks in the world who would appreciate or even know the value of NOS reel parts and reels -- and most of them are on Alan's site already. 

While I have no immediate plans to transition to the Big Pond any time soon -- that is out of my control -- however, when I do -- all will be donated to the AT site for sharing among members.

Aiala's dad is over 100 -- and is currently planning and writing his next 2 novels.  That is what keeps him active -- being inquisitive, busy, and useful.  Good role model.

In the meantime, if someone needs an odd part -- I might be able to help help out, if I have it.

Best,

Fred