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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn 99/Jigmaster/SurfMaster/Squidder Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: basto on January 22, 2016, 12:54:28 AM

Title: ss gear sleeve strength on 500
Post by: basto on January 22, 2016, 12:54:28 AM
Hi Guys
Anyone care to tell approx how much drag a stainless gear sleeve on a Jigmaster 500 can handle?
Basto
Title: Re: ss gear sleeve strength on 500
Post by: swill88 on January 22, 2016, 01:26:41 AM
Quote from: basto on January 22, 2016, 12:54:28 AM
Hi Guys
Anyone care to tell approx how much drag a stainless gear sleeve on a Jigmaster 500 can handle?
Basto

that's a great question... i'm thinking the main gear would fail before the sleeve.

steve
Title: Re: ss gear sleeve strength on 500
Post by: basto on January 22, 2016, 04:32:13 AM
That`s a fair reply, given the lack of information I should have provided. So, let`s say we have a stainless main and pinion gear and an alloy frame.
I`m referring to the handle rounding off the top of the sleeve.
Title: Re: ss gear sleeve strength on 500
Post by: RowdyW on January 22, 2016, 04:45:58 AM
Put a SS handle arm on it & keep it tight & it will handle all the drag that you can give it. A jigmaster won't give monster drag numbers like a 113H. But with SS sleeve,gears,& alum. frame it should handle any drag setup on the market today. If you want more get a set of alum. side plates           RUDY
Title: Re: ss gear sleeve strength on 500
Post by: day0ne on January 22, 2016, 05:58:37 AM
Quote from: basto on January 22, 2016, 04:32:13 AM
That`s a fair reply, given the lack of information I should have provided. So, let`s say we have a stainless main and pinion gear and an alloy frame.
I`m referring to the handle rounding off the top of the sleeve.

I don't see how that is a function of the amount of drag.
Title: Re: ss gear sleeve strength on 500
Post by: RowdyW on January 22, 2016, 06:03:10 AM
Quote from: day0ne on January 22, 2016, 05:58:37 AM
Quote from: basto on January 22, 2016, 04:32:13 AM
That`s a fair reply, given the lack of information I should have provided. So, let`s say we have a stainless main and pinion gear and an alloy frame.
I`m referring to the handle rounding off the top of the sleeve.

I don't see how that is a function of the amount of drag.
The heavier the drag the more chance of rounding of the flats on the sleeve.
Title: Re: ss gear sleeve strength on 500
Post by: Alto Mare on January 22, 2016, 03:51:06 PM
I have seen damaged gear sleeves at around 22lbs on some of my test. A loose handle, or longer handle would get it done quicker.
Those were not heat treated though, I believe the latest are...just what the doctor ordered.

Sal
Title: Re: ss gear sleeve strength on 500
Post by: basto on January 22, 2016, 08:32:37 PM
Thanks guys for your replies. That number was what I was looking for Sal.
cheers
Basto
Title: Re: ss gear sleeve strength on 500
Post by: MarkT on January 22, 2016, 08:48:08 PM
...and then the spool arbor would bend.  If you keep ratcheting up the pressure you'll always find a weakest link.
Title: Re: ss gear sleeve strength on 500
Post by: alantani on January 23, 2016, 12:06:34 AM
i ran the 3/0 senator against 15 pounds of drag on the winder and there was no damage.  wouldn't want to go past that, or even stay there for any length of time!
Title: Re: ss gear sleeve strength on 500
Post by: Alto Mare on January 23, 2016, 12:18:16 AM
We now have better drag options,  the jigmaster loaded with the goodies available to us should do just fine at 15lbs and a little more. Although it has the same gears, I'm not sure about the 3/0.
Bigger spool, weaker bridge and sleeve post :-\.
Most here like the 3/0, I was never crazy about that reel. The Jigmaster is a  more capable reel...when well equipped.
Just my opinion.

sal