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General Maintenance Tips => Tools and Lubricants => Topic started by: DoobieNaq on January 30, 2016, 02:12:45 PM

Title: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: DoobieNaq on January 30, 2016, 02:12:45 PM
As I was completing a break down of my Shimano Cu-200, I realized that I definitely do not have the tool to pull the drive shaft cover off as I would need a tiny Phillips that has a shaft about 3-4" long (it has to be inserted from the opposite side of the reel).  Can anyone help me locate one of these little buggers?  As I am new to breaking down reels and have a very limited knowledge, does this situation occur often?  In other words, would buying a set of this type of screwdrivers help in the long run?

Thanks in advance

Lyle
Title: Re: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: foakes on January 30, 2016, 06:07:30 PM
Hi Lyle --

For firearms, I use Brownells -- for fishing reels I use Wiha.

I have had good experiences with WIHA screwdrivers for the last 15 years -- only bent (1) -- and that was absolutely my fault.

http://www.wihatools.com/screwdrivers/precision

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/865EBA10-AA6C-4812-AE26-FB4FE01912F6_zpsnydjnyjb.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/865EBA10-AA6C-4812-AE26-FB4FE01912F6_zpsnydjnyjb.jpg.html)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/398DD45A-75F7-4C37-9C29-CB47C9871570_zpsbt0fcrjg.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/398DD45A-75F7-4C37-9C29-CB47C9871570_zpsbt0fcrjg.jpg.html)

Amazon is always a good source for Wiha products also -- cheaper, and generally free shipping if you have Prime.

A little set can be bought that will last you a lifetime.

Best,

Fred

Title: Re: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: FatTuna on January 31, 2016, 12:37:37 AM
Those Wiha screwdrivers are really precise and nice. I use them on electronics that have really delicate screws. They are the only screwdrivers that I've found that don't destroy the heads of the tiny screws.
Title: Re: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: DoobieNaq on January 31, 2016, 03:50:11 AM
I appreciate the pointers guys, thanks.

I'll definitely be looking into a set
Title: Re: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: ReelClean on January 31, 2016, 04:12:39 AM
I agree with Fred et al on Wiha, all I use for torx, allen etc. For Jap reels though I would recommend JIS screwdrivers over Phillips for a better grip, and I go with Vessel.
http://www.vesseltools.com/hand-tools/screwdrivers/jis-japanese-industrial-standard/view-all-products.html
http://www.vesseltools.com/hand-tools/screwdrivers/screwdriver-sets/view-all-products.html

cheers
Steve
Title: Re: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on January 31, 2016, 09:59:48 AM
Wiha for me. I use both 4mm (5/32) and 1/4 bits in various handles - 4 are torque screwdrivers. It's surprisingly easy to over tighten small screws that's why I use the torque drivers.
Title: Re: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: exp2000 on January 31, 2016, 12:04:24 PM
Quote from: DoobieNaq on January 30, 2016, 02:12:45 PM
As I was completing a break down of my Shimano Cu-200, I realized that I definitely do not have the tool to pull the drive shaft cover off as I would need a tiny Phillips that has a shaft about 3-4" long (it has to be inserted from the opposite side of the reel).  Can anyone help me locate one of these little buggers?  As I am new to breaking down reels and have a very limited knowledge, does this situation occur often?  In other words, would buying a set of this type of screwdrivers help in the long run?

Thanks in advance

Lyle

Don't think that screw is anything unusual. A standard Phillips head will fit OK.
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Title: Re: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on January 31, 2016, 06:18:55 PM
It could be a JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) head. Looks like a Philips but isn't. A lot of Asian products use this type of headed screw.

The difference?:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjfnPyV1NTKAhVGuBQKHUHxBrsQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thumpertalk.com%2Ftopic%2F1150229-get-yourself-a-jis-screwdriver%2F&psig=AFQjCNGKe9UV4zvOpF6Kc5ykzYoHZAxpQw&ust=1454350560291681

http://www.vesseltools.com/hand-tools/screwdrivers/jis-japanese-industrial-standard/view-all-products.html
Title: Re: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on January 31, 2016, 06:25:43 PM
Ignore the https Google link - something is not working right :-\  >:(

Follow the Vessels link for a description of the differences
Title: Re: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: exp2000 on February 01, 2016, 10:37:05 AM
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on January 31, 2016, 06:18:55 PM
It could be a JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) head. Looks like a Philips but isn't. A lot of Asian products use this type of headed screw.

The difference?:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjfnPyV1NTKAhVGuBQKHUHxBrsQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thumpertalk.com%2Ftopic%2F1150229-get-yourself-a-jis-screwdriver%2F&psig=AFQjCNGKe9UV4zvOpF6Kc5ykzYoHZAxpQw&ust=1454350560291681

http://www.vesseltools.com/hand-tools/screwdrivers/jis-japanese-industrial-standard/view-all-products.html


Looking at the diagram, I still reckon it's a Phillips. I have noticed the JIS pattern in mission critical places in some Daiwa spinning reels though. Might have to look into this. Thanks for the info.
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Title: Re: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on February 01, 2016, 10:57:13 AM
JIS drivers will work ok on Philips screws BUT PH driver will 'cam-out' on JIS screws ;)
Title: Re: Small phillips to reach a drive shaft cover Curado Bantam cu-200
Post by: petermex on March 12, 2016, 12:45:21 AM
Hello: What DoobieNaq needs is a screwriver that should be 90° bent..and the space he has is only 1 3/4". You should look at the shemathics ( or the reel itself ) to get the problem. Mi english is so poor I can not explain very well. Best for everybody,( especialy DoobieNaq ).

                         Peter, from México...