Did anyone else hear that the restrictions on crabbing might be lifted today?
Correctamundo Buddy Boy!!!
Season opened yesterday!
https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Fishing/Ocean/Regulations/Fishing-Map/San-Francisco#dungeness
Let's munch a bunch!!!
Wayne
Actually season opened today for sport, next Friday for Commercial (probably)
But right now the Monterey Bay has 9-11' swells with 1-3' wind waves and they are not going away until Monday. Similar off the whole central CA coast.
I will be out Tuesday to drop em.
My neighbor told me it's open but there's a warning on cooking and throwing out the water and not eating an internals (don't eat the butter).
Haven't seen it myself. Lots of pollution out there it seems,
from humboldt bay keeper .org
http://www.humboldtbaykeeper.org/docs/HBK_Crab_Card.pdf
Not pollution but Domoic acid, caused by our annual algae blooms this year it lasted ten times longer than usual.
Ever hear the phrase, "Don't eat shellfish under a red tide". Same thing just magnified immensely all along the eastern pacific shore. Can cause a range of symptoms in humans from nausea, cramps,headaches,seizures or death.
Nothing to mess around with.
Reported to have killed numerous sea lions this year.
re: polution
from the Humboldt Baykeeper website...
The following technique for cleaning and cooking
Dungeness crab is suggested because of increased
levels of pollution in our bays and oceans. Shellfish
can be contaminated with harmful chemicals and
heavy metals, including dioxin, PCBs, and mercury.
think there's more to consider than domoic acid
Hear on the east coast we have blue claws and Ruth and I have eaten thousands of them over or life time ::) Ill have to check if we glow in the dark tonight ;D Like Dungeness crab they are scavengers, the bottom feeders.
Joe
Quote from: swill88 on February 13, 2016, 12:59:34 AM
My neighbor told me it's open but there's a warning on cooking and throwing out the water and not eating an internals (don't eat the butter).
Haven't seen it myself. Lots of pollution out there it seems,
from humboldt bay keeper .org
http://www.humboldtbaykeeper.org/docs/HBK_Crab_Card.pdf
Now why you have to show me that? I've always cooked them whole and live in seawater . I used to save the water and cook up several batches too, as I like to add Beer and crab boil spices to the pot and it gets expensive to change the water everytime you drop in a new batch of crab. Now I find out Im concentrating all that pollution! Okay, well thank you. I will stop doing that but I think I will still boil them live and whole! Maybe I will read some more about it before I decide. I mean I dont have any crab to cook today anyway.
Quote from: David Hall on February 13, 2016, 06:20:00 PM
Quote from: swill88 on February 13, 2016, 12:59:34 AM
My neighbor told me it's open but there's a warning on cooking and throwing out the water and not eating an internals (don't eat the butter).
Haven't seen it myself. Lots of pollution out there it seems,
from humboldt bay keeper .org
http://www.humboldtbaykeeper.org/docs/HBK_Crab_Card.pdf
Now why you have to show me that? I've always cooked them whole and live in seawater . I used to save the water and cook up several batches too, as I like to add Beer and crab boil spices to the pot and it gets expensive to change the water everytime you drop in a new batch of crab. Now I find out Im concentrating all that pollution! Okay, well thank you. I will stop doing that but I think I will still boil them live and whole! Maybe I will read some more about it before I decide. I mean I dont have any crab to cook today anyway.
That's a bummer Dave isn't it!! :(
Joe
I was happier not knowing!
Me too! :(
Joe
I didn't want to know it either but... it is what it is.
I always ate the crab 'butter'; no more.
In the last 30 years I have gotten more skin, ear, and eye infections from surfing in California.
The worst thing you can do is swim in the ocean after a rain storm.
Sad but true,
sorry to bear bad news,
steve
Quote from: swill88 on February 14, 2016, 03:55:56 AM
I didn't want to know it either but... it is what it is.
I always ate the crab 'butter'; no more.
In the last 30 years I have gotten more skin, ear, and eye infections from surfing in California.
The worst thing you can do is swim in the ocean after a rain storm.
Sad but true,
sorry to bear bad news,
steve
It's good news Steve. We should berry our heads in the sand on this topic.....no pun intended! ;D
Joe
I grew up in the Fresno area and when we ate crab it was usually in a restaurant or s "special" friend's house. I moved up to the north coast about 25 yrs ago and started fishing & crabbing here. I was instructed by locals to "NEVER" eat or cook crab that wasn't alive when you dropped it into boiling water. I have also cooked and eaten crab in Oregon, Washington, & Alaska and was always advised of the same--If the crab isn't alive right before cooking to throw it away because it could be contaminated. In fact, that reasoning is encouraged by "Dangerous Catch" as they sometimes throw away tons of crab that have died before they can be cooked??????? If you cut them in two they will "dead" before cooking. Again, I am no expert in these matters, BUT can anyone explain why if you have a supposedly healthy crab and boil it for 20 minutes in 210* water, what organism is going to live to attack you?? ??? ??? ::)
TomT
Quote from: TomT on February 14, 2016, 04:52:10 AM
can anyone explain why if you have a supposedly healthy crab and boil it for 20 minutes in 210* water, what organism is going to live to attack you??
well... domoic acid can't be cooked away... that's why the crab season opening has been delayed for so long...
not all pollution is organic that can be killed by heat.... mercury? (i'm not a chemist!)
steve
All I can tell you for certain is, my puller and pots go on the boat tomorrow, fishing Monday weather permitting.
Crab will go live into boiling sea water as soon as I get home cracked cleaned zip locked and in to the freezer.
I have 12 in my family with kids and grandkids included and we eat about 30 crab for one Saturday evening dinner at my house. We will eat crab every Saturday as long as I am fishing for them.
So, the crab season has finally opened so we can catch and eat contaminated crab???? ::) This doesn't make sense?? It really doesn't affect me as I plan to leave soon for an extended visit to Baja. I can understand not eating the 'butter" or other parts, but I don't understand having to kill the crab before cooking it (mainly because every crab cooker(person) that I know would never cook a dead crab?? I hope no one gets sick or worse because the gov't opened the crab season too soon!!
TomT
Quote from: TomT on February 14, 2016, 06:08:31 AM
So, the crab season has finally opened so we can catch and eat contaminated crab???? ::) This doesn't make sense?? It really doesn't affect me as I plan to leave soon for an extended visit to Baja. I can understand not eating the 'butter" or other parts, but I don't understand having to kill the crab before cooking it (mainly because every crab cooker(person) that I know would never cook a dead crab?? I hope no one gets sick or worse because the gov't opened the crab season too soon!!
TomT
Tom: As long as the crab is alive when you split them and clean the parts that should be removed and then cook them as soon as you clean them they should be fine. Ive Killed and cleaned Blue Claw crabs for many years to cook in tomato gravy, and I'm still here.
I think fish and game is telling people this is to minimize the contamination of cooking the crab in its own internals which are the main source of contamination.
Joe
So my crab fishing journey began Friday with 2.5 hr drive just to get to the Harbor, locked my keys in the truck, kicked out the rear slider, dropped a brand new uniden VHF radio overboard in the slip, hire a diver tomorrow, depth finder not working, no problem I still have last years marks, pot one over, good! Pot two over, oops buoys go right under! Well? Nothing I can do, pot three over and good, 4,5,6,7 all good.
Run back pull pot one, one keeper, back down with it, hey look there's pot two! Check it empty, pot three pulled, empty over the side, hey is that a tangle I see in the line? Yeah that looks like a tangle alright! Zip under goes the first bout, zip under goes the second bouy. Alright run back to the Harbor, tie off rinse down get the hell out of there before something bad happens!
David,
I've done that brand new VHF radio thing.
My condolences........
Quote from: David Hall on February 16, 2016, 12:58:19 AM
So my crab fishing journey began Friday with 2.5 hr drive just to get to the Harbor, locked my keys in the truck, kicked out the rear slider, dropped a brand new uniden VHF radio overboard in the slip, hire a diver tomorrow, depth finder not working, no problem I still have last years marks, pot one over, good! Pot two over, oops buoys go right under! Well? Nothing I can do, pot three over and good, 4,5,6,7 all good.
Run back pull pot one, one keeper, back down with it, hey look there's pot two! Check it empty, pot three pulled, empty over the side, hey is that a tangle I see in the line? Yeah that looks like a tangle alright! Zip under goes the first bout, zip under goes the second bouy. Alright run back to the Harbor, tie off rinse down get the hell out of there before something bad happens!
Great report and I admire your attitude... what's the solution? must be a contractor?
steve
Quote from: swill88 on February 16, 2016, 02:04:33 AM
Quote from: David Hall on February 16, 2016, 12:58:19 AM
So my crab fishing journey began Friday with 2.5 hr drive just to get to the Harbor, locked my keys in the truck, kicked out the rear slider, dropped a brand new uniden VHF radio overboard in the slip, hire a diver tomorrow, depth finder not working, no problem I still have last years marks, pot one over, good! Pot two over, oops buoys go right under! Well? Nothing I can do, pot three over and good, 4,5,6,7 all good.
Run back pull pot one, one keeper, back down with it, hey look there's pot two! Check it empty, pot three pulled, empty over the side, hey is that a tangle I see in the line? Yeah that looks like a tangle alright! Zip under goes the first bout, zip under goes the second bouy. Alright run back to the Harbor, tie off rinse down get the hell out of there before something bad happens!
Great report and I admire your attitude... what's the solution? must be a contractor?
steve
l
Hah! Good guess I was a contractor for 30 hrs, been a DSA project inspector the past 17. But hard learned attitudes don't change overnight!
A bad day of fishing/Crabbing beats a good day at the office. Great attitude!
Joe