Putting this Narrow Jigmaster together for a friend on this site.
Tib, Lee-Pros, Bryan's 5 stack, Alan's SS sleeve, Newell yoke, plus a lot of SS and magged.
Did a dry assembly for test and fit -- now will go back to rust proof the mag washers, properly grease, assemble, tune, and add one of Adam's stars.
Best,
Fred
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/E2B5E712-36EA-465E-BBFE-EEF84AE4B473_zps66rkcqlg.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/E2B5E712-36EA-465E-BBFE-EEF84AE4B473_zps66rkcqlg.jpg.html)
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Very nice Fred! A bit different than the usual! Looks great.
...............Lou
Ye gods...! Fred could probably build a McMansion from leftover wood shavings and paper clips, LOL :D
~A~
How many magnets did you put in that little guy? Looks like it you are holding back an elephant!
Good work Fred.
Silver, Purple and Blue?
Quote from: foakes on February 14, 2016, 04:51:08 PM
Putting this Narrow Jigmaster together for a friend on this site.
Tib, Lee-Pros, Bryan's 5 stack, Alan's SS sleeve, Newell yoke, plus a lot of SS and magged.
Did a dry assembly for test and fit -- now will go back to rust proof the mag washers, properly grease, assemble, tune, and add one of Adam's stars.
Best,
Fred
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/E2B5E712-36EA-465E-BBFE-EEF84AE4B473_zps66rkcqlg.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/E2B5E712-36EA-465E-BBFE-EEF84AE4B473_zps66rkcqlg.jpg.html)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/2A12C7BE-2A38-4BCC-90EE-97E2D8946250_zpso1i2lrmd.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/2A12C7BE-2A38-4BCC-90EE-97E2D8946250_zpso1i2lrmd.jpg.html)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/73049705-39EE-46BB-82BA-A2E1556A8FB8_zpsoj16qies.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/73049705-39EE-46BB-82BA-A2E1556A8FB8_zpsoj16qies.jpg.html)
That's mine!!!!
Fred it looks great! Can't wait to see it in person...
Quote from: steelhead_killer on February 14, 2016, 05:14:28 PM
How many magnets did you put in that little guy? Looks like it you are holding back an elephant!
I sent Fred a bunch of magnets but wasn't sure how many it would need/take to slow the spool down...
I'm terrible at casting these types of reels so I need all the help (magnets) I can get
Why did you use a Newell Yoke? Penn & Newell Yokes are completely different. You would then need a Newell Jack Plate.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 14, 2016, 05:15:46 PM
Good work Fred.
Silver, Purple and Blue?
Daron, you forgot Black (knob)
Nice job Fred, it brings back memories of the phsychedelic 60's. ;) ;)
Quote from: bluefish69 on February 14, 2016, 07:05:44 PM
Why did you use a Newell Yoke? Penn & Newell Yokes are completely different. You would then need a Newell Jack Plate.
The yoke was a brand new old stock still in the package -- one that Carl Newell used to offer as a Penn upgrade many years ago -- found it in the back of a drawer.
Used some new old stock 500S parts because they were not brass --
On the magnets -- since it is an aluminum spool that is not magnetic -- and I really did not want to glue washers to the spool also -- we will just let the Lenz Principle of magnetic attraction as a non-magnetic metal conductor moves through the positive and negative alternating Eddy Fields -- slow down the spool.
The magnets are double stacked and alternating polarities.
They just stick to the washers -- so they can be partially removed, completely removed, or polarities switched around -- as the user feels is appropriate for the conditions.
This is not a Plinth Princess -- but it is a reel built to be put to use -- with a minimum of backlash and hopefully no birds nests when casting or dropping.
Good components -- but built with what is on hand with a mind towards staying within a budget.
Best,
Fred
Nice job on that reel Fred. I always thought the 3-500s were chromed brass :-\
Fred, if this came from your "parts and pieces" I would LOVE to dig around in there ::) beautiful reel. Looks like it's gonna be able to handle just about anything casting. Nice work!!
Nice job Fred :)
Nice work Fred, it would be great to be able to pull a reel like that together from 'parts on hand' - but having seen a glimpse of your parts inventory on various posts here, there is probably no limit to what you could put together.
pjstevco - let us know how it casts.
Mike
I can't wait to get my hands on this beauty!!!
I'm gonna have to take this down to the lake to practice casting before the big group outing in April!
I really like this Fred.
Super cool!
If anyone going out on the 12 hour trip in April wants to take this reel for a test ride it'll be available to try out ;D ;D ;D
What do you mean with the stacked magnets? Did you epoxy down a washer then put two magnets on the washer, alternating as you go around? I finished magging a squidder and was going to do the same with a 99, but I used the cups and only did 1 magnet per cup. Never even crossed my mind to stick a second magnet on top.
Right, RC --
Epoxied 7 washers to the inner sideplate --
Then protected them with clear epoxy against rust --
Then just stack the mags on top of the washers -- 1, 2, or 3 -- they stay perfectly in place -- you need a pair of pliers to get them off -- but they are much easier to remove from the washers, then with the cups.
Alternate the polarities in the washer circle ring --
This way -- mags can be added, removed, switched around -- easily.
At this point, I have set it up for a double stack and full ring of mags -- but the final configuration will be up to the user, PJ.
There are many mathematical possibilities -- just whatever works the best for the user.
Even though the spool is not magnetic -- Lenz's Magnetic Law as it relates to metallic conductors , sets up Eddy Currents and fields -- that overlap and interact with each other -- thus slowing down the spool. The same principle is used in many motor and engineering applications.
You can even epoxy washers to the inner spool, opposite the side plate mags -- and this will nearly stop the spool unless dropping 12 oz lead.
So these are very versatile -- maybe not pretty -- but they do not show, are effective, flexible, and cheap.
SaltyDog is really good at these.
And, at the end of the day -- this is not a $500 Plinth Princess Jigmaster. It is a capable little, tough reel, made with parts on hand, like the used Lee Pros, and some strategic new parts from Alan, Bryan, and others -- and a minimum of fluff. The 5 stack, plus Gen II SS sleeve, dog, & kit -- make this a little winch.
Possibly a good example of where old school and new school meet.
Best,
Fred
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Thanks for the info. I think I'm going to use the washers for the 99 I want to mag. I put slots in the cups with a dremmel for the Squidder, but it's still hard enough to get the magnets out that I don't bother with it for the most part. I have no idea how many the 99 will need so I actually got a few different sizes. Just using the washer will at least make it easier to modify it.
Great job Fred. I am proud to know you and the fact that you coined the phrase "Plinth Princess." I love it. From now on I will not use the word "shelfie" (sorry Aiala I think the first time I heard shefie was in one of Aiala's posts) a reel will be either a fisher or fishing reel or a Plinth Princess. Yea! Fred
I can't wait to get my hands on this beauty ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D but Fred's on vacation and waiting on the curved drag star to be back in stock so I'll have to wait a little while longer.
I'll be taking this down to the lake to practice my subpar casting skills before the group outing next month. I'd hate to birdnest it on my first cast but seeing all the magnets in there I'm pretty even I couldn't birdnest this beast!
Rudy and I went out to the pier last night and I brought 3 rods; two spinners and a Squidder. When I wasn't cleaning up bird's nests I was having a good time - only cut and spliced back together the line once :-\. So I'm going to mag my Squidder; at night when you can't see the terminal tackle hit the water it's really hard to not get backlashes... it is for me; my thumb isn't well-trained (yet). I was using the Squidder plastic spool with the fins... and was OK at the beginning of the cast.... so I don't know whether I would be better off with an aluminum spool or the chromed brass. I can make arguments for both, but I'm thinking the aluminum might be the ticket. The heavier chromed brass spool would take longer to get up to speed, but once up to speed will be harder to slow down because it is heavier. The aluminum, because it is lighter, would be more adaptable to changes in speed - which is what causes backlashes. Squidders have been magged before. What spool has been used, and is there a basis for comparison between the chromed brass and aluminum? And how many magnets might be needed for each spool type?? Any advice from anyone who has (or has not) done this before is welcome.
Sid
You're right, Sid, aluminum is the way to go. Is your Squidder a 140 or a 146? If the former: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penn-140-Squidder-Aluminum-Spool-Penn-Made-in-USA-/272216622113?hash=item3f61600421:g:wr0AAOSwLmVXDswg
If it's a 146, those are a lot harder to find... meantime, did you catch anything last night? :)
~A~
Quote from: Aiala on April 26, 2016, 02:34:15 PM
You're right, Sid, aluminum is the way to go. Is your Squidder a 140 or a 146? If the former: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penn-140-Squidder-Aluminum-Spool-Penn-Made-in-USA-/272216622113?hash=item3f61600421:g:wr0AAOSwLmVXDswg
If it's a 146, those are a lot harder to find... meantime, did you catch anything last night? :)
~A~
Thanks Aiala! It's a 140.
Catch? Were we supposed to catch? I hooked two fish on rigs my dad tied 24 years ago.... a puffer that snapped the old mono line (but I had to try catching on my dad's old rig so I was OK with that) and something we should have taken a picture of because neither Rudy nor I can identify that little denizen... it had a unique lower jaw/throat contour that I was looking for in the pics and didn't find... could be that was peculiar to just this fish, but I'm skeptical of that. Nobody else was catching that night either...
I'll be looking at that spool on eBay, thanks ;)
Sid