Reel Repair by Alan Tani

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Title: resurrected reels
Post by: garyal on February 23, 2016, 07:25:01 PM
These are six reels that have not been fished in many years. I will be fishing the two newels and the YT special this July on a 7 day trip. I needed a lot of 25-50 lb set ups to be used by others. Thanks to this site for the knowledge, advice and parts!

Top left is a Penn YT special. For this reel, I got a newer topless frame, SS gear sleeve, 7 stack drag and Tiburon lite handle. It has 475 yds. of hollow 80 spectra and will fish a 40 lb top shop at 13 lbs drag.

Lower left is a Newell 332-5. This one got a handle and 5 stack drag from Bryan and a new set of spool bearings from Dawn. Spooled with 450 yards of 40 hollow ace for a 30 lb. floro top-shot with 10 lbs of drag.

Top row middle is a Newell G440-F. This one got a topless frame from Tiburon and a handle / 5 stack drag from Bryan. A new set of spool bearings from Dawn. Spooled with 550 yards of 40 hollow ace for a 30 lb. floro top-shot with 10 lbs of drag to be used with 8 foot Calstar jig stick.

The other three are original Trinidads. I was surprised when I tor these down for service in that as old as they are, they had double dogs AND ARB!

Because all schematics are easily downloaded and mostly because, EVERY REEL I am servicing has a write up on this site, I am just finishing up full tear downs /  servicing / upgrading on the other 24 regular reels used for two long range set ups for my son and I. I will post photos once completed. Just waiting on the return of a 30T frame that is getting re-anodized after I made it into a topless frame! All I used was a dremmel, sand paper and file!

Thank you again to all who contribute to this site.




Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: foakes on February 23, 2016, 07:36:18 PM
Beautiful work, Gary!

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: steelfish on February 23, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
nice work..


do all your trinidad have double dogs?
ones looks like a trini 20, I'll be thinking to double dog my 16 but haven found the parts yet

Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: garyal on February 23, 2016, 07:51:33 PM
Thanks Fred,

I have been having a lot of fun and I am really anxious to fish these old timers!

Interestingly, out of 30 reels, most of which are modern high end reels, the two best at coasting after spin-up are the Penn YT and the Newell 332 with the 440 a close second!  They beat everything else by a long margin! This includes new Dauntless reels with spool sleeve and TS 301 in all spool bearing on all reels.

Both Newells are graphite spools while the Penn is an aluminum spool from Tiburon.
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: garyal on February 23, 2016, 08:15:08 PM
Quote from: steelfish on February 23, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
nice work..


do all your trinidad have double dogs?
ones looks like a trini 20, I'll be thinking to double dog my 16 but haven found the parts yet



Sorry for misleading you. Only my TN40 has double dogs. Both the TN 16 and TN 20 have single with ARB.
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: steelfish on February 23, 2016, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: garyal on February 23, 2016, 08:15:08 PM
Quote from: steelfish on February 23, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
nice work..


do all your trinidad have double dogs?
ones looks like a trini 20, I'll be thinking to double dog my 16 but haven found the parts yet



Sorry for misleading you. Only my TN40 has double dogs. Both the TN 16 and TN 20 have single with ARB.

still amazing, tn40 has only one dog, tn50 is the one with double dogs from the factory.


the double dog job that was performed on the tn40 could be done on the tn30, tn20 and tn16

Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: thorhammer on February 23, 2016, 09:31:36 PM
Gary, great work! I'm very interested in the topless frame re-anodize project; can you start a thread on that? who is doing it? whats the cost etc?

thanks!

John
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: broadway on February 23, 2016, 09:52:10 PM
Nice work, Gary. I noticed you had the Wiha master set of screwdrivers... what do you think of them. I was gonna pull the trigger the other day.
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: broschro on February 23, 2016, 10:17:13 PM
Beautiful reels! and good luck on your trip.
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: garyal on February 23, 2016, 11:59:43 PM
Quote from: broadway on February 23, 2016, 09:52:10 PM
Nice work, Gary. I noticed you had the Wiha master set of screwdrivers... what do you think of them. I was gonna pull the trigger the other day.
Thanks
Dom

I like the set. However the handles do not give me enough torque for setting side plate screws etc. It is really nice to have a handle on each tool. If you pull the trigger, do not waste money getting the yellow ESD version for static free applications!

When I go on long range trips I carry the Wiha  50 piece multi bit set. It gives you pretty much everything you need for a full rebuild on the boat and is self contained in a small package.

If you really are seriously disturbed and have a tool disorder like I do, look at their Torque Control self contained sets! 59 pieces for ONLY $556, this is less than $10 per piece. After all, how long has it been since you got a piece for less than $10?
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: garyal on February 24, 2016, 12:11:36 AM
Quote from: thorhammer on February 23, 2016, 09:31:36 PM
Gary, great work! I'm very interested in the topless frame re-anodize project; can you start a thread on that? who is doing it? whats the cost etc?

thanks!

John

OK John,

The modified frame went out yesterday for re-anodization. I did take some before photos so I will post once I get is back. This is an old two speeded Cal Sheets blue printed reel that had a top frame bar and a lot of sentimental value. Since they no longer offer a topless frame, I just cut up the original using a tib 50S topless frame as an example of what to cut and what to leave. It will end up fishing 500 yards of 130 hollow spectra with 100 lb floro wind on. Drag at 34 pounds with long freespool thanks to Cal Sheets many years ago. Same as before, but now it will be a lot more fisherman friendly without the top bar.
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: Bryan Young on February 24, 2016, 04:17:04 AM
Nice work Gary.  Good to see that you put the parts that I sent to good use.

Can't wait to hear about your long range trip.
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: CapeFish on February 24, 2016, 08:40:40 AM
Quote from: steelfish on February 23, 2016, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: garyal on February 23, 2016, 08:15:08 PM
Quote from: steelfish on February 23, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
nice work..


do all your trinidad have double dogs?
ones looks like a trini 20, I'll be thinking to double dog my 16 but haven found the parts yet



Sorry for misleading you. Only my TN40 has double dogs. Both the TN 16 and TN 20 have single with ARB.

still amazing, tn40 has only one dog, tn50 is the one with double dogs from the factory.


the double dog job that was performed on the tn40 could be done on the tn30, tn20 and tn16

My TN40 came standard with  double dogs


Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: Yogi_fish808 on February 24, 2016, 09:17:58 AM
Nice work on those reels Gary! The vast info available to us here makes a huge difference when it comes to making sure our reels are performing their 100% best. Aloha and tight lines!
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: coastal_dan on February 24, 2016, 11:13:16 AM
Great job, I have a few friends that love the Trinidad's, to the point they have multiples of each size as back ups and claims of 'owning forever....favorite reel...I'll never fish anything else...etc".  Thanks for sharing and good luck on your trip!
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: garyal on February 24, 2016, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: coastal_dan on February 24, 2016, 11:13:16 AM
Great job, I have a few friends that love the Trinidad's, to the point they have multiples of each size as back ups and claims of 'owning forever....favorite reel...I'll never fish anything else...etc".  Thanks for sharing and good luck on your trip!

I liked the Trinidads OK. they were ahead of their time with dog and ARB and very smooth drags. My son still fishes a Trinidad  20DC on a jig stick. However, personally I LIKE the old Newells with the upgraded drags better for throwing the iron.
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: broadway on February 24, 2016, 04:16:12 PM
Thanks Gary! I was looking at the red set, as I'm certainly no electrician or computer guru.  I was however, hoping the drivers would give the torque to button the real up, so I may now look at the Chapman and Brownell sets.  Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing the re-anodizing.
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: SoCalAngler on February 25, 2016, 06:34:42 AM
Quote from: steelfish on February 23, 2016, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: garyal on February 23, 2016, 08:15:08 PM
Quote from: steelfish on February 23, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
nice work..


do all your trinidad have double dogs?
ones looks like a trini 20, I'll be thinking to double dog my 16 but haven found the parts yet




Sorry for misleading you. Only my TN40 has double dogs. Both the TN 16 and TN 20 have single with ARB.

still amazing, tn40 has only one dog, tn50 is the one with double dogs from the factory.


the double dog job that was performed on the tn40 could be done on the tn30, tn20 and tn16



The Trini 40N did come double dogged from the factory.
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: garyal on February 25, 2016, 11:18:14 PM
Quote from: broadway on February 24, 2016, 04:16:12 PM
Thanks Gary! I was looking at the red set, as I'm certainly no electrician or computer guru.  I was however, hoping the drivers would give the torque to button the real up, so I may now look at the Chapman and Brownell sets.  Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing the re-anodizing.
Thanks
Dom

Hi Dom!

I have both the Chapman master set and the Whia master set as per the attached photos. These two sets together cost about the same, together, as the Whia set we were originally discussing. There are pluses to each set. The chapman has a better handle to get full torque on side plates etc. It also has a great selection of straight blade screwdriver bits. The Whia set has more smaller bits and a better hex ratchet. I use both sets together almost all the time! With two driver handles, two ratchets and my Milwaukee electric screw driver, I often have 5 different bits all loaded and in use on the same reel.

So in answer to your thinking, get both sets! You only live once and I have never heard anyone on their deathbed lamenting having bought too many quality tools in their life!! :-)
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: broadway on February 26, 2016, 03:55:54 AM
Thanks Gary! It seems we have similar taste in tools, and I have to agree... on my death bed I wanna say I had just enough tools to get the job done. ;)
I'm sure you won't need any other drivers for reel tinkering, at least  ;)
Stay fishy,
Dom
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: ez2cdave on November 21, 2016, 04:15:18 AM
Quote from: garyal on February 23, 2016, 07:25:01 PMJust waiting on the return of a 30T frame that is getting re-anodized after I made it into a topless frame! All I used was a dremel, sand paper and file!

What was the COST of the Re-Anodizing ?

Tight Lines !
Title: Re: resurrected reels
Post by: FatTuna on November 21, 2016, 12:11:10 PM
I'm interested in that as well. I'd like to have my Tiagras re-anodized. The last guy I talked to wanted over $400 a reel!