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Title: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: cbar45 on March 14, 2016, 12:03:11 AM
Thought this was an interesting-looking beast.

Does anyone recognize the make of the frame, homemade perhaps?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-Game-Vintage-Penn-14-0-Cradle-Reel-/152003379568?hash=item23641b8170:g:TwQAAOSwh-1W2Pn-
Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: foakes on March 14, 2016, 12:14:16 AM
Hi Chad --

With that many bids from separate bidders -- likely a Neptuna?

Hard to find in any size reel -- particularly a 14/0.

But the guy who knows -- is Michael.

Best,

Fred

Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: Superhook on March 14, 2016, 12:20:28 AM
Nothing like what Neptuna cast.  Fairly primitive in my opinion. 12/0 was the largest Neptuna made.  Have never seen this design before so not likely mass produced.
Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on March 14, 2016, 08:25:28 AM
Wow it sold for US$13250 :o
Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: cbar45 on March 14, 2016, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: Ti :oddlerbasher on March 14, 2016, 08:25:28 AM
Wow it sold for US$13250 :o


Ok, now I REALLY want to know the story behind this reel!  

Hopefully Michael can shed some light as to why this particular example sold for quadruple the average price of a regular 14/0.. :o

Chad

Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 14, 2016, 11:39:14 AM
It was $1,325.
I don't see how it can shift with the eccentric being backwards.
Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: Alto Mare on March 14, 2016, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 14, 2016, 11:39:14 AM
It was $1,325.
I don't see how it can shift with the eccentric being backwards.

It would work just the same.
Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 14, 2016, 12:40:25 PM
For one time, then the spring would come out of position.
Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: Alto Mare on March 14, 2016, 02:57:29 PM
The plate has its own notch for the spring to ride on, the post on the lever doesn't have much to do with it.
I rather have it facing on the inner side, I was just answering your question when you said you didn't see how it can shift, being backwards...it would shift just fine and I know of some that rather have that way.
Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: Penn Chronology on March 15, 2016, 05:51:56 AM
I have been watching this all week. I do not know what type of cradle this is. I know it is not a Neptuna. It is a strange over built contraption that I honestly did not like. The receptacles for the rod and butt are chucks and one seem to be missing. It has a crude Assist aka Fighting Handle. I cannot imagine many of these exist, so I would say it is rare. I guess it impressed a few buyers because they went a bit nuts bidding. When I think about what I could buy for $1325.00, this is not what comes to mind. I was not impressed; but, that does not mean it is not a great piece. What that means is I did not like it and I know nothing about it.
Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: cbar45 on March 15, 2016, 06:51:05 AM
Thanks for chiming in Mike.

I thought the bidding was getting steep when I first posted--around $700.

It does not look like something I'd buy at that price, much less for what it sold.

But, if it makes someone else happy then more power to them.

Quote from: Penn Chronology on March 15, 2016, 05:51:56 AM
When I think about what I could buy for $1325.00, this is not what comes to mind.

This is a good mind-set to have while on the big auction site..;)

Chad

Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: Tightlines667 on March 15, 2016, 07:11:01 AM
Quote from: cbar45 on March 15, 2016, 06:51:05 AM
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But, if it makes someone else happy then more power to them.

Quote from: Penn Chronology on March 15, 2016, 05:51:56 AM

This is a good mind-set to have while on the big auction site..;)

Chad



Agreed.  This goes for sellers too, and you certainly can't win them all.

;)
Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: Maxed Out on March 15, 2016, 05:28:09 PM
   There were only 2 bidders from $800 and up and only 4 bidders that thought it was worth $500, so I wouldn't say it was a crazy auction, just a battle between 2 people that wanted it really bad.

   Ted
Title: Re: Senator 14/0 Cradle Reel
Post by: foakes on March 15, 2016, 05:44:28 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on March 15, 2016, 05:28:09 PM
   There were only 2 bidders from $800 and up and only 4 bidders that thought it was worth $500, so I wouldn't say it was a crazy auction, just a battle between 2 people that wanted it really bad.

   Ted

Ted is right, again --

That is why I personally only consider ebay a basic measure of value -- not a Bible or Blue Book.

Mixed up in all of the bidding is emotion, needing a certain piece, wanna-be experts with a credit card, gift givers, newbies, amateurs, and real experts.

Most serious pieces are sold between collectors, traded, or offered at some of the big auction houses like Lang's.

The real value, at least to me -- is, how much would I really pay for the item I am selling, if I were buying it -- in my brutally honest heart-of-hearts? -- no one except me needs to know.

Best,

Fred