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Title: Quick Question?
Post by: gstours on March 17, 2016, 03:26:09 PM
   Are Seagulls born as Adults? ???
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  And nhow come you never see babys?   Just wondered?   Maybe somebody knows? :o
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: sdlehr on March 17, 2016, 03:42:09 PM
Finally a question I can answer! Birds (of all types) are pretty much full grown when they leave the nest. They may not have adult plumage, but they're almost adult size as fledglings. I'm sure you've seen young sea gulls and not recognized them as such.

Sid
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: PacRat on March 17, 2016, 05:21:58 PM
Sid is correct. Seagulls are brown for their first year and are mostly white (like your photo) as mature adults.
Mike
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: reelrepair123 on March 17, 2016, 09:42:33 PM
brown fur balls.  harryk
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Dominick on March 17, 2016, 10:54:38 PM
Check out this baby.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQqHdqIGHSE   Dominick
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 17, 2016, 11:48:49 PM
Ive always looked at them as flying rats. ::)

Joe
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Maxed Out on March 18, 2016, 02:25:05 AM
I watched the video expecting a eagle or hawk come down and swoop it up for dinner  :o....I was disappointed in the end.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Big Tim on March 18, 2016, 04:43:39 AM
While Seagulls may be hatched as young Seagulls/baby's, everyone of those suckers that have targeted me over the last 53 years are fully trained bomber pilots and are extremely accurate  ;D

BT
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: anglingarchitect on March 18, 2016, 02:53:07 PM
The eggs are same color the chicks are, when They are hatching out they sit still and almost disappear on the sand and shell.
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: gstours on March 18, 2016, 03:36:10 PM
Tha nks, Ive seen  all grey and mottled colors but thought maybe they were american halfbreeds,  part crow, or cormorant! :-\
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Tightlines667 on March 19, 2016, 12:32:04 AM
I happen to be our (NMFS/PIRO) regional seabird expert/liason.  Once you start talking feather coloration in seabirds things can get a bit confusing.  Many species have differing color phases at different stages of maturity, sometimes there is sexual dimorphism, and some species show distinctly different coloration at different stages of the annual molt cycle (which varies by maturity level as well).  To further complicate matters there are also instances of albinistic, melanistic, and hedonistic, as well as crossbreeding.  Gulls are tricky because many different species have very similar drab mottled/barred coloration as juviniles.  My seabird interests are more focused on truly Pelagic species, and exclude most gulls (for the mostpart).. just a personal bias.  
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 19, 2016, 02:10:42 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on March 19, 2016, 12:32:04 AM
I happen to be our (NMFS/PIRO) regional seabird expert/liason.  Once you start talking feather coloration in seabirds things can get a bit confusing.  Many species have differing color phases at different stages of maturity, sometimes there is serial dimorphism, and some species show distinctly different coloration at different stages of the annual molt cycle (which varies by maturity level as well).  To further complicate matters there are also instances of albinistic, melanistic, and hedonistic, as well as crossbreeding.  Gulls are tricky because many different species have very similar drab mottled/barred coloration as juviniles.  My seabird interests are more focused on truly Pelagic species, and exclude most gulls (for the mostpart).. just a personal bias. 

I know the difference between a Seagull and a Bay gull. The Bay Gull you eat with cream cheese. ;D ;D

Joe 
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Tightlines667 on March 19, 2016, 02:31:17 AM
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 19, 2016, 02:10:42 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on March 19, 2016, 12:32:04 AM
I happen to be our (NMFS/PIRO) regional seabird expert/liason.  Once you start talking feather coloration in seabirds things can get a bit confusing.  Many species have differing color phases at different stages of maturity, sometimes there is serial dimorphism, and some species show distinctly different coloration at different stages of the annual molt cycle (which varies by maturity level as well).  To further complicate matters there are also instances of albinistic, melanistic, and hedonistic, as well as crossbreeding.  Gulls are tricky because many different species have very similar drab mottled/barred coloration as juviniles.  My seabird interests are more focused on truly Pelagic species, and exclude most gulls (for the mostpart).. just a personal bias. 

I know the difference between a Seagull and a Bay gull. The Bay Gull you eat with cream cheese. ;D ;D

Joe 

I think the proper term is.. "Mutton"

;)
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Dominick on March 19, 2016, 03:18:50 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on March 19, 2016, 02:31:17 AM

I think the proper term is.. "Mutton"

;)
Nothing wrong with mutton.  Have you ever tried birria?  How about roast kid at Easter?  When my grandparents were alive we would have roast kid every Easter.  Dominick
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 19, 2016, 03:46:22 AM
Quote from: Dominick on March 19, 2016, 03:18:50 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on March 19, 2016, 02:31:17 AM

I think the proper term is.. "Mutton"

;)
Nothing wrong with mutton.  Have you ever tried birria?  How about roast kid at Easter?  When my grandparents were alive we would have roast kid every Easter.  Dominick

;D ;D ;D

Joe
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Big Tim on March 19, 2016, 09:53:34 PM


;)
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When my grandparents were alive we would have roast kid every Easter.  Dominick
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Dominick, I'm pretty sure roasting a KID for Easter is illegal  ::) But what do I know, you are the legal dept. here  ;D

BT
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 19, 2016, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 19, 2016, 09:53:34 PM


;)
When my grandparents were alive we would have roast kid every Easter.  Dominick
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Dominick, I'm pretty sure roasting a KID for Easter is illegal  ::) But what do I know, you are the legal dept. here  ;D

BT
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A kid is a young Goat. ;D ;D

Joe
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Big Tim on March 19, 2016, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 19, 2016, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 19, 2016, 09:53:34 PM


;)
When my grandparents were alive we would have roast kid every Easter.  Dominick

Dominick, I'm pretty sure roasting a KID for Easter is illegal  ::) But what do I know, you are the legal dept. here  ;D

BT
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A kid is a young Goat. ;D ;D

Joe
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Whewwww, thanks Joe, I was kind of wondering what was going on here  ;D ;D Had whole pig & lamb but never goat (kid), I'm sure it's tasty.

BT
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 20, 2016, 01:32:58 AM
I think Dominick was referring to baby Lamb and not Goat, The Italians eat Baby Lamb and they split the head and stuff it and bake it. I have had Baby Lamb and eaten the head as well years ago. The Italians call the head Gabazell. I know that's not spelled right, maybe Sal or Dominick can tell you the proper spelling. I'm a half azzed Italian.

Joe     
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Dominick on March 20, 2016, 02:21:34 AM
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 20, 2016, 01:32:58 AM
I think Dominick was referring to baby Lamb and not Goat, The Italians eat Baby Lamb and they split the head and stuff it and bake it. I have had Baby Lamb and eaten the head as well years ago. The Italians call the head Gabazell. I know that's not spelled right, maybe Sal or Dominick can tell you the proper spelling. I'm a half azzed Italian.

Joe     
Joe it is spelled Capozzelli and that is lamb head though I would not be surprised if one would use capozzeli for goat also.  Baby lamb's head is called capozzeli di angnelli.  If I had to guess goat's head would be capozzeli di capra.  I was talking about goat not lamb.  I'm sure you have heard of a baby goat called which are called kid goat.  Also the softest gloves made are kid gloves.  Dominick
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Yogi_fish808 on March 20, 2016, 02:39:40 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on March 18, 2016, 04:43:39 AM
While Seagulls may be hatched as young Seagulls/baby's, everyone of those suckers that have targeted me over the last 53 years are fully trained bomber pilots and are extremely accurate  ;D

BT

We don't have gulls in Hawaii but the last time I was in SF and took the girlfriend on a cruise around the bay 2 of those guys followed right above us on the boat, add the crossbreeze direction that day and I was sure we were gonna get bombed.....
Title: Re: Quick Question?
Post by: Reel 224 on March 20, 2016, 02:48:10 AM
Quote from: Dominick on March 20, 2016, 02:21:34 AM
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 20, 2016, 01:32:58 AM
I think Dominick was referring to baby Lamb and not Goat, The Italians eat Baby Lamb and they split the head and stuff it and bake it. I have had Baby Lamb and eaten the head as well years ago. The Italians call the head Gabazell. I know that's not spelled right, maybe Sal or Dominick can tell you the proper spelling. I'm a half azzed Italian.

Joe     
Joe it is spelled Capozzelli and that is lamb head though I would not be surprised if one would use capozzeli for goat also.  Baby lamb's head is called capozzeli di angnelli.  If I had to guess goat's head would be capozzeli di capra.  I was talking about goat not lamb.  I'm sure you have heard of a baby goat called which are called kid goat.  Also the softest gloves made are kid gloves.  Dominick

I knew I could count on you Dominick for the Italian lesson.

Joe