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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: steelhead_killer on April 03, 2016, 08:34:50 PM

Title: In preparation for the 4/0 side plates...
Post by: steelhead_killer on April 03, 2016, 08:34:50 PM
I don't own a 113 yet so I will be building one from scratch.

I have the following list of components that need to be checked:

Drag Kit with insert - Motive Fab
Tiburon Frame- Randy
Spool - Randy
SS Gear Sleeve - Pro Challenger
SS Bridge?  Double dog should be coming out soon? Pro Challenger
SS Gear and Pinion - 1st gen- Pro Challenger
SS Yoke- Smoothdrag
SS handle- Motive Fab
Knob - Many options
Drag Star - Motive Fab
Eccentric Jack in SS?  Does any one make one?
19-113 -Eccentric - Scotts
20- 113H2- Spring - Scotts
21-66 - Lever - Scotts
22-99 - Screw - Scotts
23-60 - Handle Screw - Scotts
110-60 Handle Screw lock down Scotts
18-60 Clutch Springs - Scotts
8-60 Tension Springs Scotts
9-66 Spacer Sleeve - Scotts

what am I missing, or what needs to be changed...

Thanks!

Andy
Title: Re: In preparation for the 3/0 side plates...
Post by: Alto Mare on April 03, 2016, 08:47:04 PM
You got two things that don't match Andy. On the title, do you mean 4/0? You are talking about the 113H correct?
Title: Re: In preparation for the 3/0 side plates...
Post by: RowdyW on April 03, 2016, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on April 03, 2016, 08:34:50 PM

I don't own a 113 yet so I will be building one from scratch.

I have the following list of components that need to be checked:

Drag Kit with insert - Motive Fab
Tiburon Frame- Randy
Spool - Randy
SS Gear Sleeve - Pro Challenger
SS Bridge?  Double dog should be coming out soon? Pro Challenger
SS Gear and Pinion - 1st gen- Pro Challenger
SS Yoke- Smoothdrag
SS handle- Motive Fab
Knob - Many options
Drag Star - Motive Fab
Eccentric Jack in SS?  Does any one make one?
19-113 -Eccentric - Scotts
20-155 - Spring - Scotts
21-66 - Lever - Scotts
22-99 - Screw - Scotts
23-60 - Handle Screw - Scotts
110-60 Handle Screw lock down Scotts
18-60 Clutch Springs - Scotts
8-60 Tension Springs Scotts
9-66 Spacer Sleeve - Scotts

what am I missing, or what needs to changed...

Thanks!

Andy

20-155 is now no longer produced. Use 20- 113H2
Title: Re: In preparation for the 4/0 side plates...
Post by: steelhead_killer on April 03, 2016, 08:52:17 PM
yep duh :'(
Title: Re: In preparation for the 4/0 side plates...
Post by: steelhead_killer on April 03, 2016, 08:57:34 PM
Thanks Rowdy
Title: Re: In preparation for the 4/0 side plates...
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on April 03, 2016, 09:35:27 PM
Andy, I have plenty of Tiburon and Accurate frames and spools.  Did you buy new or old style side plates?

Thanks,

Randy
Title: Re: In preparation for the 4/0 side plates...
Post by: Alto Mare on April 03, 2016, 09:49:47 PM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on April 03, 2016, 08:52:17 PM
yep duh :'(
I just wanted to make sure Andy ;D.

This is going to be some reel when done...
Title: Re: In preparation for the 4/0 side plates...
Post by: steelhead_killer on April 03, 2016, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on April 03, 2016, 09:35:27 PM
Andy, I have plenty of Tiburon and Accurate frames and spools.  Did you buy new or old style side plates?

Thanks,

Randy

New
Title: Re: In preparation for the 4/0 side plates...
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on April 03, 2016, 10:13:57 PM
Then we need to stick with the new style Tiburon frames, or you will need to use a stock inside trim ring, which I think would look a little bit funky.
Title: Re: In preparation for the 4/0 side plates...
Post by: steelhead_killer on April 03, 2016, 10:21:06 PM
correct
Title: Re: In preparation for the 3/0 side plates...
Post by: swill88 on April 03, 2016, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 03, 2016, 08:47:04 PM
You got two things that don't match Andy. On the title, do you mean 4/0? You are talking about the 113H correct?

Sal,

What is the difference in referring to the plates as 'for a 4/0' or 'for a 113H'?

Is it that a '4/0' refers to other reels as well?

I really don't know.

Steve
Title: Re: In preparation for the 4/0 side plates...
Post by: Alto Mare on April 03, 2016, 11:16:39 PM
You got me on that one Steve, I said 4/0 because Andy listed 3/0...you guys are tough ::) ;D
This is for the ones that I have confused:
The 113 and 113H are both a 4/0's
The 113H comes with 3 shades of maroon color, the 113 is just black and shares the same left and right side rings.
Also, the 113H (4/0) comes with bearings, the 113 ( 4/0) comes with bushings.

Sal
Title: Re: In preparation for the 4/0 side plates...
Post by: PacRat on April 03, 2016, 11:50:48 PM
Steve,

As I understand it; for the Senator series '4/0' refers to reel size 113 is the model number. Generally speaking 4/0 is a 40lb size and a 3/0 is for 30lb line.

113. 113H, etc... is just the Penn model number for the Senators. Of course the model numbers also correlate to the size.
All 112s are 3/0, 113s are 4/0 and 114s are 6/0.

For the internationals 20s are meant to be fished at 20lb, 30s are meant to be fished with 30lb and 50s are for 50lb. Most people spool them up with much heavier line but that's what they're designed for.

Mike
Title: Re: In preparation for the 4/0 side plates...
Post by: swill88 on April 04, 2016, 12:05:34 AM

Thank Sal and Mike.... that helps.

Steve