Reel Repair by Alan Tani

General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: Aiala on April 04, 2016, 10:00:34 PM

Title: Screw question...
Post by: Aiala on April 04, 2016, 10:00:34 PM
All right, okay, hold the puns... 12-yr-old rule, etc. (That means you, Dominick!)  ::)  :D

Anyway, Tom very helpfully told me that the socket head cap screws he uses on his CC Jigmaster plates are #5-40 size, but what size are the larger ones that fit a 114H 6/0? I'd like to know before I send in an order to McMaster-Carr.

Much obliged!   ;)

~A~
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: foakes on April 04, 2016, 10:51:47 PM
Sal willl know for sure, Aiala --

Think 6-40, but really am not sure.

They come in boxes of 50 at about $7 - $8 a box -- which makes them a good value at around 15 cents each.

You will probably use them eventually -- but if you don't think you might -- I would split the order with you.

Just the regular screws from Penn are 75 cents each -- not even SS hex.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on April 04, 2016, 11:05:15 PM
Aiala,
The larger senators use 8-40 screws for the side plates.
Tom
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: RowdyW on April 04, 2016, 11:06:33 PM
6-40 is for the 113H & smaller reels for the bridge, 5-40 for the plates.. The 114H takes a larger diameter screw. A #8 possibly?      Rudy
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: RowdyW on April 04, 2016, 11:08:44 PM
Tom, are the bridge screws #8 also?
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: handi2 on April 04, 2016, 11:33:05 PM
And 8-40 screws are impossible to find..
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on April 04, 2016, 11:36:35 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on April 04, 2016, 11:08:44 PM
Tom, are the bridge screws #8 also?

I'll check when I get home tonight.
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Shark Hunter on April 04, 2016, 11:36:56 PM
I don't see any except for black oxide and they are in an assortment.
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Alto Mare on April 05, 2016, 12:53:04 AM
Quote from: RowdyW on April 04, 2016, 11:06:33 PM
6-40 is for the 113H & smaller reels for the bridge, 5-40 for the plates.. The 114H takes a larger diameter screw. A #8 possibly?      Rudy
8-40
You will have a hard time finding those.

Sal
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on April 05, 2016, 01:58:43 AM
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on April 04, 2016, 11:36:35 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on April 04, 2016, 11:08:44 PM
Tom, are the bridge screws #8 also?

I'll check when I get home tonight.

The bridge screws are #10, looks like 10-32, but I don't have a pitch gauge here at home.
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Alto Mare on April 05, 2016, 02:16:52 AM
I just checked Tom, 32 threads per inch on those.
Looks like the 10-32 will work on all bridge from the 114 to the 118.

Sal
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: sdlehr on April 05, 2016, 02:35:11 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 05, 2016, 12:53:04 AM
Quote from: RowdyW on April 04, 2016, 11:06:33 PM
6-40 is for the 113H & smaller reels for the bridge, 5-40 for the plates.. The 114H takes a larger diameter screw. A #8 possibly?      Rudy
8-40
You will have a hard time finding those.

Sal
Sal, next month, when we're in the Penn plant, if we spot any of these 8-40 screws, you create a diversion; I'll take care of the rest.  ;D ;D ;D

Sid
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Alto Mare on April 05, 2016, 02:41:46 AM
Sid, I we are looking for ss screws, Penn might not have those :-\
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: sdlehr on April 05, 2016, 03:00:43 AM
They "might" not have those leaves some room for they "might" actually have them. You know I was just trying to make a joke, but it might be a good question to ask about when we are there. Might there be some technical snafu that makes fabrication of these SS screws difficult? It wouldn't seem so. Maybe it's just a situation where there isn't much of a demand.... Might Alan Chui be of assistance?

Sid
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on April 05, 2016, 08:14:13 AM
8-40 screws are used by gunsmiths. My Weaver scope mount uses 8-40. So it may be worth trying a few gunsmiths - ss is still going to be a pain in the ****
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Rothmar2 on April 06, 2016, 04:37:51 AM
Are 8-40 and 10-32 HSS dies relatively easy to come by in the 'States?
Would be interested in purchasing both of these sizes, with taps.
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: RowdyW on April 06, 2016, 04:54:34 AM
I got mine on ebay. The ones I got were made in China. I only need them to chase threads not cut new threads.      Rudy
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Rothmar2 on April 07, 2016, 02:03:28 AM
Thanks Rudy, but I intend to be cutting fresh threads from rod stock, and have already learnt the Chinese EBay stuff isn't always up to the task. There are some good quality German made taps/dies, but postage is ridiculous from Europe-Australia. More than the cost of the tools!
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on April 07, 2016, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: Rothmar2 on April 06, 2016, 04:37:51 AM
Are 8-40 and 10-32 HSS dies relatively easy to come by in the 'States?
Would be interested in purchasing both of these sizes, with taps.

Let me know what you want, and next time I send something down to you I'll throw them in the box.
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Rothmar2 on April 08, 2016, 05:29:09 AM
Thanks for the generous offer Tom. Really just need the 8-40 and 10-32 HSS dies. Mike (mhc) is more likely to be ordering more of your fine work in the near future. Send them to him, and he can forward them on from there. I'm still copping grief from the Finance Minister over the Jigmaster plates! But they are worth every bit of the coin and the gripes!  :-*
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Penn Chronology on April 09, 2016, 12:38:16 AM
QuoteAnyway, Tom very helpfully told me that the socket head cap screws he uses on his CC Jigmaster plates are #5-40 size, but what size are the larger ones that fit a 114H 6/0? I'd like to know before I send in an order to McMaster-Carr.

I believe it is a fine thread size; 8-32. That would seem logical using a standard fine thread fastener.

http://www.americanfastener.com/tap-and-drill-size-chart/
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: RowdyW on April 09, 2016, 12:42:42 AM
I believe they are 8-40 & 10-32 for the bridge,    Rudy
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Dominick on August 05, 2016, 07:10:10 PM
I don't understand how I missed this thread.  Especially since Aiala baited me with a challenge to stay within the 12 year old rule.  So now I have to answer a screw question and stay within the rule.  I accept the challenge.  In answering all questions about screwing one is directed to Webster's Dictionary.  Oops! even Webster cannot keep it in the 12 year old rule.  Going to the Urban Dictionary really goes outside the realm of what is proper.  Therefore, I am going screwy just trying to be funny and keeping within the rule.  So screw it I can't.  Dominick
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Aiala on August 05, 2016, 07:13:34 PM
Quote from: Dominick on August 05, 2016, 07:10:10 PM
Therefore, I am going screwy just trying to be funny and keeping within the rule. So screw it I can't. 

Well, at least you screwed up enough courage to give it a try.  ;D

~A~
Title: Re: Screw question...
Post by: Alto Mare on August 05, 2016, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: Dominick on August 05, 2016, 07:10:10 PM
I don't understand how I missed this thread.  Especially since Aiala baited me with a challenge to stay within the 12 year old rule.  So now I have to answer a screw question and stay within the rule.  I accept the challenge.  In answering all questions about screwing one is directed to Webster's Dictionary.  Oops! even Webster cannot keep it in the 12 year old rule.  Going to the Urban Dictionary really goes outside the realm of what is proper.  Therefore, I am going screwy just trying to be funny and keeping within the rule.  So screw it I can't.  Dominick
I think you got a screw loose ::) ;D