I recently purchased a couple Edward vom Hofe 621 reels in size 4/0 and 6/0, with the intention of fishing with them. These were relatively inexpensive. The 4/0 I first purchased is engraved with a name matching that of a rather famous individual, so I decided not to touch it as it may have sentimental value to someone, and I don't want to risk damaging it.
I bought a small set of Chapman screwdrivers, with the idea of getting a good fit on the slotted screws. Unfortunately the set I purchased did not have any slotted screwdrivers that were thin enough for the slots in the screws of the 6/0 reel. The thinnest tips in the set with an appropriate width were 0.025", and would not engage in the slots. I found some Brownell's tips in 0.020" online and ordered them, but my impatience overcame me before they arrived, and I decided to try sanding down another screwdriver tip to fit. I started with one that was initially 0.035", and found a very tight fit in the screws when it got down to .022"
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And away we go!
Head plate removed
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Tail plate with cross bars and foot still attached (note number 3 on reel foot)
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Free spool lever / eccentric assembly
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Another 3!
Jack, yoke & pinion removed
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Handle coming off - it would be hard to round off that sleeve!
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Spring-loaded doohickey on handle works with perforations in drag star to prevent star from rotating inadvertently
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Spacer washer above rollers in drag spacer assembly
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Rollers in cup. I'm glad I saw Penn Chronology's post about this before digging into this reel. From this post: http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13757.0
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Drag star and spacer assembly
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Bridge removed from plate, and main gear/drag "top hat" removed from sleeve
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Small screw removed so that main gear can come out
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Double dog bridge!
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The red arrows mark the dogs.
There are two effective drag surfaces (either side of main gear), sandwiched between two plates. Not sure if the plates are brass or bronze.
I did not remove the sleeve from the bridge post. I was not sure how to do this without causing damage. Everything was moving freely, so I just lubricated the dogs and sleeve as best I could without disassembling.
Main gear cleaned up, drag washer material appears to be permanently attached. Both sides of main gear look the same.
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The fuzz is from a paper towel I used to wipe off the existing grease. I brushed it off with a toothbrush before reassembling the reel.
After some light cleaning with a toothbrush and corrosion-X, I found a few more #3's:
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It appears to be a "matching numbers" reel!
I did not take photos of lubrication and reassembly, but I used Cal's grease on the drag surfaces and blue Yamalube elsewhere. Reel-X on the dogs, and a drop in each spool bushing. Here is the reel back together & ready to fish!
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I did a bit of sanding and polishing to the spool. It was pretty pitted, and could be cleaned up further, but looks good enough for me for now.
NICE!
it's a beauty.... thanks...
Steve
Strong work, Bryan --
And excellent photos.
Thanks,
Fred
Beautiful job Bryan. Great to hear you are going to fish with it. Are you going to use linen line?
Yup!! Great Job 8)
Marc..
Thank you all for the comments.
Quote from: Penn Chronology on April 08, 2016, 12:29:21 AM
Beautiful job Bryan. Great to hear you are going to fish with it. Are you going to use linen line?
That is a great question Mike. Up until now, I was thinking I would fill the reel half full of fairly heavy Dacron and then top it off with lighter mono. I understand Dacron has a lot less stretch than mono, and heavier Dacron would result in fewer wraps around the spool. This would minimize the "spool parting" effect of running mono all the way to the arbor. I was not really thinking about being period-correct, but wanting to make sure I don't split the spool apart.
I gather from your question that linen line is what was used back when this reel was current (at least I think that is why you asked). It would be kind of cool to use the same stuff they used back then. Is it readily available? I have not looked for it.
Byan,
The fishers of yesteryear that used Cuttyhunk linen had to look after their lines so they would not rot . To by it today is expensive and you still have to look after it.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=Penn+Senator&_ftrt=901&_sop=10&_dmd=1&_osacat=1492&_ipg=50&_ftrv=1&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC2.A0.H0.Xcuttyhunk+.TRS0&_nkw=cuttyhunk+&_sacat=1492
If it was me i would just use braid line.
Ray
Especially when you are looking at filling a big game reel. I think Dacron backing with a mono Topshop would be the way to go on these older 3-piece spools.
Great Job on that Old Dinosaur Bryan. ;)
I think that is Awesome you want to fish it.
I hope it works out.
Excellent work on restoring that reel .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1uc37gq6Hs
Rgds
Matt...
Looking good!!!
..Lou
Quote from: Mattman NZ on April 08, 2016, 08:17:05 PM
Excellent work on restoring that reel .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1uc37gq6Hs
Rgds
Matt...
I love that video. It left a lasting impression when I visited the IGFA museum shortly after it opened. I believe one of our ORCA members helped produce it.
Thank you all for the feedback. Based on Superhook's comments, I think I will stick with braid backing and a mono topshot. Love the video!
Thank you for posting the breakdown. I too have a 621.
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Im not planning to open it because it's new in the original leather case.
Beautiful reels, both Bryans. Bryan C, great restoration job! They just don't make 'em like that any more.
Sid
I have one.....care to restore it for me? :-*
Quote from: Marlinmate on April 12, 2016, 02:20:29 AM
I have one.....care to restore it for me? :-*
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I don't think I'm ready to start working on other people's vintage reels. Too easy to screw one up. Like I did recently with another one: http://reeltalk.orcaonline.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18774
You wouldn't be in the Tampa Bay area by any chance, would you? If so, I would be happy to work on it with you at some point. I just don't want to risk messing it up myself.
Quote from: BryanC on April 12, 2016, 11:35:24 PM
Quote from: Marlinmate on April 12, 2016, 02:20:29 AM
I have one.....care to restore it for me? :-*
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I don't think I'm ready to start working on other people's vintage reels. Too easy to screw one up. Like I did recently with another one: http://reeltalk.orcaonline.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18774
You wouldn't be in the Tampa Bay area by any chance, would you? If so, I would be happy to work on it with you at some point. I just don't want to risk messing it up myself.
I kinda feel the same way about restoring most of these reels. I have done about a dozen or so of my own, but I don'the really feel comfortable doing restorations on customer'service reels quite yet. There is a guy online that specializes in restoring these, and he comes highly recommended. Do a search, and he should pop up. He charges $100+extra time/parts costs.
John, is that Californiacustomzking? I think he does a lot of replating.... but doesn't currently have anything listed.
Sid
I think I read on some forum or another that this guy is good...
http://vintagefishingtackle.net/VOM-HOFE-REELS
Now I know This guy is :)
http://www.antiquefishingreels.com/i_about.html
Though he may only accept special requests, as it is not his full time job.
By the way this is a goodles read...
http://fishinghistory.blogspot.com/2008/10/dr-todd-cleans-fishing-reel-part-i.html?m=1
Dr. Toddler can definately do this type of work.
Well we are on the topic, if you havn't checked out the sites in this index...
http://rodandreelindexonline.org/index.php
Have a look see. Good info there on bamboo rod restoration, and then even mention a place called...
AlienTani or something or another ?