I got the new Cortez's side plates for my 4/0, thanks Tom, they look awesome!
I was thinking about doing a wide version, but i think I want to actually fish this reel. Maybe Im still learning how to fish, but with wide reels, it seems like I get a wobble when I reel in with higher drag settings, and I stink at laying my line evenly also. So i decide to do a narrow version instead.
this is what I'll start with...
a narrow (YTS) with a new-style Tiburon frame
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3737/12611377763_a4a1343636_z_d.jpg)
I might as well do a little upgrading...
i think I go with this Accurate handle because it matches the new side plates
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1544/26620478615_41756cc598_z_d.jpg)
and i'll go with this star because it goes well with that Accurate handle.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1469/26017433083_2b1f1112ab_z_d.jpg)
as for the gears, i have an old Newell, a stock, or Black Pearl's
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1473/26017432413_3739c36b67_z_d.jpg)
lets go with Black Pearl's
lets also upgrade the drags too... hmmmmm, we have some options.... Adam's inserts, Bryan's 7+1, or stock
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1711/26620477025_ae6b7343a0_z_d.jpg)
let's go with Bryan's 1 + 7 drag stack because I'm only planning on spooling with straight 50lb mono.
definitely need to upgrade the gear sleeve
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1650/26017432093_3fc4eda8b2_z_d.jpg)
Tom's plates has a few nice features, like this teflon bushing for the eccentric lever
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1649/26620475835_b6f91ea85f_z_d.jpg)
and don't forget this little cap so you don't chip the anodizing on your new plate
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1671/26594433996_794a1ba0d0_z_d.jpg)
and some nice CNCing for the eccentric spring, and notice the shieldless bearing
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1643/26594433646_055d39d19a_z_d.jpg)
lets slap this together....
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1511/26347208450_96df334eb3_z_d.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1606/26347206520_cc156a93da_z_d.jpg)
I like to palm my reel as i fish, so i don't like the harness lugs (key 54). Any suggestions as to how I can finish this reel???
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1701/26347207660_e78be34a78_z_d.jpg)
You can finish by sending it to me Al ;D ;D
Wow, that's a beauty.
haven't I seen some guys install the lugs upside down as to fill in the blank thats left?
or a nice little ss blank?
That is a beauty Al. Maybe Tom could make some fillers of the same color for the guys that need them.
Have you tried installing the lugs upside down as Erik mentioned? If they're too long, you could shorten them.
Some lugs are stainless steel, you should be able to shape them to perfection.
Sal
I use the lugs for the Baja Special. You do have to cut them off. The top side is already beveled the right amount.
That's a beautiful reel..!
Nice build! Beautiful reel![/quote]
Not going to lie, those side plates are beautiful. Nice reel.
If you remind me I can have a pair of SS harness lug blanks cut.
Lee, you may need to cut more than a pair.
Ooh, pretty! I like those hex head screws too.
Those recessed hex screws are sexy aren't they.
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 25, 2016, 02:01:55 AM
Lee, you may need to cut more than a pair.
I have the drawing for the lugs, making it shorter will not be a problem. I will grab a 113H at the shop and measure it tomorrow.
And so it begins!
What a beautiful reel you built there.
I especially like the matching star and handle.
Let the build threads begin!
Quote from: erikpowell on April 24, 2016, 11:38:56 PM
haven't I seen some guys install the lugs upside down as to fill in the blank thats left?
or a nice little ss blank?
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 24, 2016, 11:49:38 PM
Maybe Tom could make some fillers of the same color for the guys that need them.
Have you tried installing the lugs upside down as Erik mentioned? If they're too long, you could shorten them.
Some lugs are stainless steel, you should be able to shape them to perfection.
Quote from: handi2 on April 24, 2016, 11:54:02 PM
I use the lugs for the Baja Special. You do have to cut them off. The top side is already beveled the right amount.
That's a beautiful reel..!
I've tried the Baja Special, but its really not a "perfect" fit and filing down SS is really time consuming. Ive also tried it with the chrome-over-brass, but it really doesn't complement the reel.
Quote from: Keta on April 25, 2016, 12:22:05 AM
If you remind me I can have a pair of SS harness lug blanks cut.
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 25, 2016, 02:01:55 AM
Lee, you may need to cut more than a pair.
I think you're right Bryan, i'll take a hand full Lee. :)
Quote from: David Hall on April 25, 2016, 02:40:51 AM
And so it begins!
What a beautiful reel you built there.
I especially like the matching star and handle.
Let the build threads begin!
Im looking forward to seeing your threads of your builds David... and all the other folks on here that ordered these Cortez Side Plates, please post pics of your builds ;)
If there are no pics then it'd isn't happen!
Beautiful job, very class reel! I agree, I'm looking forward to seeing all the customs that are happening with Tom's plates.
That's one eye-popping reel, Ono! Fish it in good health.
If I may ask, where did you get that crimson drag star?? Just beautiful... Is it custom, or commercially available? :)
~A~
Big Al, that reel is SOWEET!!!!! If nobody gets the chance to make lug blanks I will make some in the fall.
Regards, .. Lou
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 25, 2016, 02:01:55 AM
Lee, you may need to cut more than a pair.
I'd like a pair please! :) Christmas came early again, these plates are beeeuutiful! thanks Tom!!!!!
Quote from: DaBigOno on April 25, 2016, 03:46:24 AM
Im looking forward to seeing your threads of your builds David... and all the other folks on here that ordered these Cortez Side Plates, please post pics of your builds ;)
It's going to be awhile. I have a pair of side plates coming in, but my only 4/0 is laying in pieces in a box somewhere. Isn't that how it starts?..;)
Nice breakdown of new parts installed, as well as the different options for gears and drags.
Chad
Quote from: Aiala on April 25, 2016, 04:12:19 PM
That's one eye-popping reel, Ono! Fish it in good health.
If I may ask, where did you get that crimson drag star?? Just beautiful... Is it custom, or commercially available? :)
Aiala, I actually had that red star and handle in one of those boxes in my garage.
But you can normally find these aluminum ones on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANODIZED-T6061-ALUMINUM-STAR-DRAG-WHEEL-PENN-113H-970-320-4-0-PRO-GEAR-10-349/201369966854?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36461%26meid%3D24de4bd010b94c2fa97439e1f7008228%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D201369966854
only thing is I would caution about using those because they can easily be stripped out when "buttoning down" the drag
Quote from: STRIPER LOU on April 25, 2016, 04:20:30 PM
Big Al, that reel is SOWEET!!!!! If nobody gets the chance to make lug blanks I will make some in the fall.
Regards, .. Lou
Lou, if you an make some lug blanks that look anything like those handles that you made, I'm looking forward to it. i think a lot of us on this site will be.
Quote from: cbar45 on April 25, 2016, 11:09:27 PM
it's going to be awhile. I have a pair of side plates coming in, but my only 4/0 is laying in pieces in a box somewhere. Isn't that how it starts?..;)
Nice breakdown of new parts installed, as well as the different options for gears and drags.
Chad
Whats up Hawaiian! if you need something, let me know. I'll help out wherever i can... shakaz'
Our 4/0's have now a lot more horsepower.
Those stars do look nice, but personally, I would not put them on reels that would be fished. For the shelf it's another story.
I have a couple in one of the box with tripped threads.
Aluminum stars do not like stainless steel gear sleeves.
Sal
Alumn handles don't work well with ss sleeves either i upgraded a couple of handles the stainless wore the holes out.
Great Job on that Cherry Al! ;)
I mean Apple.
The new cortez plates look great on your reel! My Ice blues are gonna be on the side for a little while while I gather up the parts for her and finish up a few other projects. I hear you on uneven line lay for the 113hlw width, I thought I was good at keeping it flat until I had a fish on...then it started looking like a baseball forming on my spool.
Just get your thumb trained to keep moving!
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 26, 2016, 12:09:46 AM
Our 4/0's have now a lot more horsepower.
Those stars do look nice, but personally, I would not put them on reels that would be fished. For the shelf it's another story.
I have a couple in one of the box with tripped threads.
Aluminum stars do not like stainless steel gear sleeves.
Sal
Quote from: anglingarchitect on April 26, 2016, 01:23:17 AM
Alumn handles don't work well with ss sleeves either i upgraded a couple of handles the stainless wore the holes out.
I agree with you both on the aluminum star and handle.
unfortunately, i live in a house where i need to justify to my wife that its a fishing reel and not just something thats going to collect dust in the garage like so many other stuff in those boxes. i live by that saying "a happy wife, is a happy life" and i like it that way.
I do have another 4/0 that i actually fish without worrying about getting any 'boat rash' on it. Full-Accurate frame, Keta-Krank with Alan's handle, Adam's star, Black Pearl's Gears & a SS gear sleeve. Last year i fished it with Bryan's 7+1 drag kit in it. Now it has Adam's insert drag kit. Maybe it will get Chui's Double Dog Bridge and 2nd generation gear & drag set that we have been waiting for.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1640/26695419075_56d5264aa0_z_d.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1701/26629327321_9a70276543_z_d.jpg)
and if you notice, it has a set of SS harness lugs that been cut & filed down
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1548/26602426002_d4909e06db_z_d.jpg)
it just doesn't look clean when i put them on my new apple...
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1709/26695418005_185562bf2b_z_d.jpg)
but, my intentions with my apple is to fill it up with 50 lb mono, take it on a boat ride, catch a nice yellow or tuna; then i'll be able to put it on a box in the garage for 10-15 years with offending the wife. ;D
Al, you have a couple very nice looking reels for sure. The "lugless" look is one I've always liked. Have you tried using an outer ring on the inside ? You'd have to grind off the inner flanges on the holes on those outer rings, but nobody will know cause they will be hidden under the frame. Just a thought. I tried it on a laboratory reel and it worked great and completey eliminates the lug slot.
Here is a pic of that ring after I ground off the inner flanges on those holes in the outer ring
Sweet! Thanks for the tip Ted. I have a few inner rings I can experiment with.
Quote from: DaBigOno on April 29, 2016, 12:47:25 AM
Sweet! Thanks for the tip Ted. I have a few inner rings I can experiment with.
Al, please post up a pic of the finished product if this works for you.
Ted
I would put the ring on a firm smooth surface, I use a 1/2" thick UHMW sheet, smack the protrusions with a plastic punch to flatten them then drill out the hole if needed using a 7/64" drill bit.
I found a lug blank drawing in my files and it is at the cutter now. It also looks like he test cut pairs the last time but I do not remember having them on the cutting order. They look good so I will cut more.
Quote from: Maxed Out on April 29, 2016, 02:47:02 AM
Al, please post up a pic of the finished product if this works for you.
Ted
Quote from: Keta on April 29, 2016, 02:54:01 PM
I would put the ring on a firm smooth surface, I use a 1/2" thick UHMW sheet, smack the protrusions with a plastic punch to flatten them then drill out the hole if needed using a 7/64" drill bit.
so i looks like it has to be a "left outer side ring" (key 28A), but that's another project...
Quote from: Keta on April 29, 2016, 02:54:01 PM
I found a lug blank drawing in my files and it is at the cutter now. It also looks like he test cut pairs the last time but I do not remember having them on the cutting order. They look good so I will cut more.
that's good news! you might want to take a 'roll call' :)
Al, if yours is a red apple, then I guess mine could be a blackberry. :D :D
Quote from: Maxed Out on April 30, 2016, 12:03:36 AM
Al, if yours is a red apple, then I guess mine could be a blackberry. :D :D
That looks "sweet" Ted!
Quote from: Maxed Out on April 30, 2016, 12:03:36 AM
Al, if yours is a red apple, then I guess mine could be a blackberry. :D :D
Ted,
You told me it came out ok.... that is stunning! And one of a kind. No one has a reel like that!
Tom, you made them, I just assembled your masterpiece, but thanks for the good words ;)
Al, I gave it a shot and 2 thumbs up on rings with no lug cutouts. Here they are. 2nd shot is top view
Regards, Ted
P.S. There is a ground down lug under the ring to have a solid base for the top frame post
Ted
Very clean look, I like that.