My original plan was to powder paint the spool translucent orange, but that didn't work out. I just don't have the proper equipment to do it with. So I used Krylon Engine Enamel and baked it in the oven to cure it well. Keta's lug blanks and the cap screws are powder painted black. How's it look?
Thanks to:
Cortez Conversions new style side plates
Vintage Offshore Tackle - T4n frame and Newell Spool
Pro Challenger all stainless running gear and drag stack
Motive Fab offset handle and Newell star
Striper Lou's Fabulous acrylic knob
Scott's B&T/MysticParts.com for misc springs n things
Keta's lug blanks
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Can't wait to test it!
Ralph
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
It looks great..!!
Let us know how the spool does. I have a narrow spool that needs attention and paint might be the way to go.
Thank you, sir. I'm reely happy with the way it turned out. The spool works fine. No gaps, and great freespool even with packed bearings.
That is why I used engine enamel. It is good to 500d. F. I baked it for 15 minutes at 300 in the oven, so I know it won't flake or chip off.
Ralph
Looks great Ralph!
Where do you fish in the Delta?
Steve
Thanks, Steve. I live in Rio Vista, so I fish as far up as Walnut Grove (if some one takes me out) and as far south as the Martinez. Mostly I fish off of the bank nearby or off the pier.
Very nice Ralph! That whole setup really pops! The orange spool looks great.
.................Lou
Ralph,
The reel look amazing. Do you have any picture to show how you prep it ?
Or did you use a new/old stock Newell aluminum reel ?
I have an older Aluminum P-332 reel that can use some love.
I would like replicate your process.
Thanks for the great photos. They gave me a lot of ideas on older parts !
Benjamin
Benjamin, the spool is a used Newell. I asked Randy Pauley before buying it if it was anodized, but he said it was painted. So I lightly chucked it in my drill and sanded it down on low speed with 220 grit wet or dry sand paper followed by 400 grit. The paint is Krylon brand engine enamel. It has 3 coats of paint on it (no primer)and then I baked it to set it on the spool.It's hard as a rock.
Randy (Rancanfish) was kind enough to inform me the offset handle needed to be flipped over, which I'm doing now. It's been a trying day. My car blew the head gasket this AM on the way home from work.
Thanks Lou! Your knob was what started this project.
Quote from: RiverAngler on September 27, 2016, 12:36:23 AM
Benjamin, the spool is a used Newell. I asked Randy before buying it if it was anodized, nut he said it was painted. So I lightly chucked it in my drill and sanded it down with 220 grit wet or dry sand paper followed by 400 grit. The paint is Krylon brand engine enamel. It has 3 coats of paint on it (no primer)and then I baked it to set it on the spool.It's hard as a rock.
Randy was kind enough to inform me the offset handle needed to be flipped over, which I'm doing now. It's been a trying day. My car blew the head gasket this AM on the way home from work.
Take a cool drink and burn off the frustration futzing with your reel.
Benjamin, someone else may be able to tell you if this kit works with your Newell, but my gut tells me no. The guts to all these seem to be Penn113h's.
Correct. My reel is all 113HN inside.
Thanks for posting that, I have some Newell spools that could use some love too. I assume the paint would come from a auto parts shop? Also 3 coats and then bake it?
Sheridan
Sheridan. I got it at Ace Hardware, but any engine enamel will work. Krylon is just a brand I know and trust. Don't leave it in the oven for too long or it will start smoking. Won't hurt the paint, but will stink up the kitchen. Not too hot, either.
Thanks, I give a go.
Great looking reel, another one of a kind!
Thanks, David!
In the words of my teenagers..."thats sic brother".....way cool too..... :P :P Bill
Please keep us updated on the painted spools.
I've always been leery of paint or powder coat on the frames and side plates because of the risk of chipping and exposing the raw aluminum to corrosion. The spool is fairly well protected, so this may be fun!
Quote from: RiverAngler on September 27, 2016, 12:36:23 AM
Benjamin, the spool is a used Newell. I asked Randy Pauley before buying it if it was anodized, but he said it was painted. So I lightly chucked it in my drill and sanded it down on low speed with 220 grit wet or dry sandpaper followed by 400 grit. The paint is Krylon brand engine enamel. It has 3 coats of paint on it (no primer)and then I baked it to set it on the spool.It's hard as a rock.
Randy (Rancanfish) was kind enough to inform me the offset handle needed to be flipped over, which I'm doing now. It's been a trying day. My car blew the head gasket this AM on the way home from work.
Thank you for the explanation. What a great way to use a drill to assist with sanding.
So - I got the surface prep part - 220 grit wet sand then progress to 400.
With the Krylon Engine Enamel, I see that you applied 3 coats. May I assume that you don't bake between coats ?
Spray 3 coats - with an hour or two in between. Then bake for 15 minutes.
Maybe I need to look for an old baking oven on Craigslist tomorrow ? I am sure my wife don't want to see orange paint in her oven.
Thanks !
Benjamin
Quote from: Rancanfish on September 27, 2016, 12:43:55 AM
Take a cool drink and burn off the frustration futzing with your reel.
Benjamin, someone else may be able to tell you if this kit works with your Newell, but my gut tells me no. The guts to all these seem to be Penn113h's.
Thank you, Randy/Rancanfish... I am trying to learn the process of how to paint and refinish an aluminum spool.
I do have a Newell C-338 with CC conversion plates and a Tiburon frame.
I have a choice to finish it with a new Tiburon spool but the idea of finding a used Newell aluminum spool and paint it bright orange is so much cooler !
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Nice looking reel Ralph, I like the color combination.
Sal
Thanks, all. Tom, that is why I baked it. Benjamin, let it dry for 24 hrs before baking it.
Sweet...great colors! I have been fiddling around with some trashed bling rings...sanding them down for a coat of paint. I think your engine enamel and soft bake may be just the answer for my project too! Thanks for sharing RiverAngler! 8)
My pleasure, Mo!
Benjamin. One thing I need to tell you. I didn't just lay the spool in the oven. I raised the rack all the way to the top and then cut some bailing wire into "S" hooks. Then I hung it about 6" down from the rack by the spool shafts. DON'T forget to mask off the spool shaft ends before painting it, removing it before baking.
Ralph
if this is normal enamel engine paint, how much harder becomes when it gets baked for 15min?
I have an extra spool for the Baja Special I might do this too just because I have it different
It's pretty hard, Alex. It's enamel, and enamel gets pretty hard when "fired" even though I got it no where near kiln temps. Apparently, Newell painted his spools too, or so I'm told. Ill see how it holds up, but in any case, it's something in a different color. That's what I was going for.
Ralph
Way Kool man...I too am curious of how the paint will hold up, but I'm diggn' the color scheme.
BT
Quote from: RiverAngler on September 28, 2016, 12:14:25 AM
It's pretty hard, Alex. It's enamel, and enamel gets pretty hard when "fired" even though I got it no where near kiln temps. Apparently, Newell painted his spools too, or so I'm told. Ill see how it holds up, but in any case, it's something in a different color. That's what I was going for.
Ralph
Ralph if one were to have access to a kiln would firing in a kiln make the enamel harder? Why did you go with 300 degrees? My oven will reach 500 degrees in the high setting and 800 degrees in the self clean setting. I have a friend that has a kiln for firing his art work. Dominick
Well, back in the day when I worked as a mechanic, we used enamel all the time on new engines. When you spray the cylinder heads and let it dry, then fire up the motor, the heads would get right at about 300D because with the old flat tappet cams we had to "wash" the cam down by running the motor at 2000 RPM at first fire up for 10-15 mins. This uses the hot motor oil to "temper" the camshaft. The paint would smoke like a bandit, but NOT discolor, and it would not come off after that. Enamel is used in many industrial applications, including fine china destined for the kiln. I used 300D for just enough time to set the enamel on the spool, keeping in mind the different expansion rates of aluminum and steel (spool shaft). I wanted to make sure the shaft would not come loose. Which is why I used the "S" hooks I made. I used a length of 1/4 20 all thread to remove the hooks, and let it cool naturally in the ambient air when done.
Folks, let me clarify something. I'm single, so I can pretty much do what I want in my place as long as I don't disturb my neighbors or burn the place down. ;D You could just leave it out in the hot sun for a day, your well controlled BBQ, or just let it cure (dry) by itself if you like. The nice thing is that it's paint, and it can easily be striped off and repainted, or change the color if you like. I think it's more versatile than set in stone anodizing. YMMV,
Ralph
My wife is pretty forgiving of all the projects I do. I'm not the most organized person and a bit of a hoarder and she's ok with that. If I make the oven smell like paint that would be a whole different gunny sack full of cats. Should I be worried? Thanks Sheridan
Sheridan, you don't really NEED to bake it. Just let it cure for at least 24 on its own, It will be fine. It's pretty tough stuff. You could use a well controlled outdoor BBQ if you like. Try air drying first, and if it's not hard enough to your liking, then bake it outside because it will smoke a little.
Ralph
Thanks Ralph