So I ordered a daiwa aird x 7'3 MH casting rod on Amazon, but they sent me a daiwa Proteus 8'0 MH conventional rod. The Proteus is about 4x the cost but it's not what I ordered. I'm debating selling it or keeping it but I don't have a reel for it, and I'm not sure how much I would use it. Anyone have any experience with this rod? Thoughts? Could it be a good tarpon or medium duty ocean rod?
What's the difference in action? They are both MH rods. is it the same line class? What's the difference other than length? Maybe keep and fish it one the 7'3" and you will be good to go.
The aird-x is rated 10-20 and the Proteus is rated 15-30. The Proteus is a nice inshore rod. What were you looking to use the rod for and what reel do you have?
Quote from: Bryan Young on October 29, 2016, 12:37:51 AM
What's the difference in action? They are both MH rods. is it the same line class? What's the difference other than length? Maybe keep and fish it one the 7'3" and you will be good to go.
Both are labeled as MH but completely different styles of rods. The one I ordered is a trigger grip more of a lightweight baitcaster. The Proteus I got is more conventional style with no trigger grip and is a heavier stouter rod with larger grips rated for 50-80 lb braid.
Quote from: MarkT on October 29, 2016, 12:59:58 AM
The aird-x is rated 10-20 and the Proteus is rated 15-30. The Proteus is a nice inshore rod. What were you looking to use the rod for and what reel do you have?
I was going to put a Shimano 301 round baitcaster reel on the aird x and use it as a step up from my medium action baitcaster rod. Use it to throw 1/4-1 ounce swim baits and live mullet for snook, redfish and tarpon inshore. I wanted something light that I could cast a lot and carry around. The Proteus is really a larger rod all around. I could see it casting large baits but would match up with a larger reel than the baitcaster I have. It's a very nice rod though and although I don't need it, it would make a nice setup paired with the right reel. I was thinking maybe a smaller Penn squall or something? A small conventional that could still cast.
Interesting... Rippinlips, are you saying that ya paid 4X less for the proteus than it's sellin for? Or didja pay the full cost for the proteus?
Gfish
Quote from: Gfish on October 29, 2016, 04:18:25 AM
Interesting... Rippinlips, are you saying that ya paid 4X less for the proteus than it's sellin for? Or didja pay the full cost for the proteus?
Gfish
I paid 4x less. I paid for a less expensive rod.
Great deal! Now when you purchase your other rod you end up getting 2 rod's for less than the price of one. Ya done good!!!!!
..................Lou
I used to use straight 12# mono on my Corsair/Catala 300's and used them on Shimano Convergence 12-25# rated rods. These days I load my Calcutta/Curado/Lexa 300's with 40-50# spectra with a leader of 15-40# mono or fluoro for plastics and lures/jigs. I put them on a Teramar tmc-x80mh (12-25#) or h (15-30) or a Phenix 808mh (15-40) or M1 82mh (15-35). A 300 size reel would go well on the Proteus 80mh. A smaller conventional like a Squall 12/15 would go well on it too. On the AT June 5 day I put a Calcutta 300 with a 25# leader on the Phenix 808mh and dropped down a flat side jig for Rockfish.
Well, the right thing to do is return it and have them ship you the correct fishing rod.
Quote from: Bryan Young on October 29, 2016, 04:39:22 PM
Well, the right thing to do is return it and have them ship you the correct fishing rod.
At least contact and inform them. I have had a few companies that did not want to deal with a return and I was given an upgrade.
Quote from: Bryan Young on October 29, 2016, 04:39:22 PM
Well, the right thing to do is return it and have them ship you the correct fishing rod.
Yup!
Quote from: Alto Mare on October 29, 2016, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on October 29, 2016, 04:39:22 PM
Well, the right thing to do is return it and have them ship you the correct fishing rod.
Yup!
x3 It doesn't matter what it can do if you don't want to do it.
Agree with Bryan & Keta. But if it aint an ethical er moral issue(with you, or surprisingly most others) forget about it, it's your thing. This opinion might qualify as the "thoughts" part of your original post.
P.S. I'm not a big fan of some of the pseudo-ethical business practices of corporate America. for example, burying important financial details in paragraphs of legal-ese print. Check out how easy Amazon makes it to sign up for "PRIME"(for $99/year!, I found out latter...) if you have'nt already. I' ll gladly lose out occasionally, if somehow I can keep their B.S. from infecting me.
I think if ya contacted 'em they'ed let you keep it at that price as a free upgrade.
I' d like to say: JMHO, but I'm never as humble as I wanna be.
Gfish
if you called them back and told them that they made a mistake, they'd probably tell you to just keep the rod. it would likely cost them more money to pay for return shipping of your rod and new shipping for the one that they were supposed to send. plus, the rod has now left their facility. they would have to figure that you would have pulled the tags, maybe even fished with it before you realized the mistake, and they could not sell it as new. meaning, it would go into the "used/defective/returns" bin to be claimed by an employee at the end of the year at 90% off.
oh, wait, this is amazon. they will have no idea what you're talking about!
Bought a new leaf blower from Amazon and it turned out to be used. Sent it back for exchange and received the exact same one in return. There is no love loss between them and I. Tried to straighten it out on the phone to no avail.
Maybe for me it was a timing thing but a friend of mine for warned me about their super specials. I know a lot of people buy through them and do well, but I am not one!
Just my 2 cents worth!
........Lou
It's not just Amazon selling you items...it's all the smaller stores selling on Amazon, some are good, mom & pop shops are on there. But some sellers are very bad...
They have seller reviews too so make sure you check those if it isn't coming directly via Amazon, can save some heartbreak later on.
That's were most of the problems come from, seller-wise.
Example, stores on Amazon that sell the rod you were discussing:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B016ORZUZ2/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new (https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B016ORZUZ2/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new)
Quote from: STRIPER LOU on October 29, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
Bought a new leaf blower from Amazon and it turned out to be used. Sent it back for exchange and received the exact same one in return. There is no love loss between them and I. Tried to straighten it out on the phone to no avail.
Maybe for me it was a timing thing but a friend of mine for warned me about their super specials. I know a lot of people buy through them and do well, but I am not one!
Just my 2 cents worth!
........Lou
Lou...sounds like you got burned by one of those sub par sellers with that blower :(
Probably so Mo. If it were me and with the problems I have had with them I would keep the rod and tell them Good Luck! Maybe not quite so nicely!
If I recall my package said something like Amazon fulfillment? Gracie put it out on the deck when it came and told me it smelled like gasoline. When I opened it there was a little bit of gas in the tank and some other junk spilled on it.
So I called them and told them what was going on. They weren't overly cordial but said to send it back for exchange. A week later, I get the same one back with an invoice that said no returns on used power equipment.
That's when I lost it. I had the persons name that I had previously spoken with and some notes I had made and they weren't the least bit interested. The last thing she said was did you read the fine print. I tell you it takes a lot to tick me off and I was rippin.
Luckily the credit card company refunded my money and that was it for me and Amazon.
Guess ya cant win em all.
......Lou
Sell the expensive rod for half it's retail price and you have the money for your original rod and something to put toward a new reel.
Amazon can Go Hang.
I'll be honest the "moral" side if it didn't cross my mind. I kind of feel it's on Amazon. They are responsible for sending out goods in exchange for money but if I did a sale with a memeber here I wouldn't hesitate to notify them. Now I really dont know what to do, part of me wants to keep it because it's a nice rod part of me wants to sell it for more than I paid and part of me wants to call Amazon and see what they say to ease my conscience. :-\ ???
Sounds to me like money wise it was an upgrade but not something you'd use as much as the original rod you ordered. Let them know, maybe they'll send the one you ordered and not want the other one back. Worst case is you'll get what you wanted with a little extra hassle of packing up the rod for return.
Agree w/ Whalebreath "Amazon can Go Hang". I's just surprised nobody said anything about "the right thing" 'till B.Y.'s post. It' s a personal thing, that's not really relevant Rippin_lipps, to your original post.
An eariler point I's tryin ta make was: corp. B.S. (e.g., deception & poor customer ser.) can "infect" me to the point where I wanna break my personal code ("A man's gotta have a code" -Insp. "Dirty Harry" Callahan) and "S." 'em back whenever I can. Sub-point'ed be the " personal " aspect to a code. Diffrent for everyone, probably. I definitely haven't been 100 % in the past w/ mine.
I'm no longer signed up for Amazon Prime, but I'm sure if I want somethin bad enough I' ll be doin business w/ 'em again, at least untill I have a "StripperLou like" experience!
Gfish
I contacted amazon and they are sending me the correct rod. I'm still curious if I keep the "wrong" rod they sent first, if I will be charged the original amount because that would be one heck of a deal.
storing transporting an 8 footer is annoying anyway.
component value jacks the price of a rod, so you might have some high end guides (whoopdy doo) seat etc maybe more responsive grade of graphite but potentially 4X worth of bells and whistles (at least 2x)
I'm with you Gfish on the corporate stuff - bothers me so much I want to do something about it.
corporate or not karma may have you snapping that thing down to 7' 3" in your car door anyway, how ironic ;D ;D
plus just because you purchased on A-Z with a smile, you may have purchased from a small business (anyone can sell there) who cant afford to take the financial loss or the inventory errors that resulted. Now their counts are likely off in both directions, and someone who purchases the rod you RCV'd might end up with your 1/4 cost rod (ie label flip flop)
Also to the issue of small businesses selling on amazon, I buy everything prime where I believe (i'm not certain) in all cases Amazon is the seller.
Quote from: rippin_lips on October 31, 2016, 03:57:16 PM
Also to the issue of small businesses selling on amazon, I buy everything prime where I believe (i'm not certain) in all cases Amazon is the seller.
Lots of Amazon prime sales are only managed by Amazon.
Very often the shop selling is a small guy...
Like my brother-in-law who sell art sketchbooks on Amazon.
He works his butt off.
I've had doubles sent by amazon, contacted them, and was told to keep it.
Steve
I got my rod yesterday and put it to use this morning. The aird-x is a nice rod for around $50.
AND THAT"S WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT!!
Buyer got the rod he wanted, and caught fish. No one is going to dip into their profit margin shipping an 8 ft rod. I'm guessing he'll go back to Amazon because they took care of him but most importantly, he's catching fish!
Way to get it done boss man.
Ron
If you are catching Tarpon in Florida they can not be removed from the water unless you have a Tarpon Permit and it is trophy sized as sized by Florida law. They must be unhooked while still in the water.
Quote from: RowdyW on November 03, 2016, 08:47:41 PM
If you are catching Tarpon in Florida they can not be removed from the water unless you have a Tarpon Permit and it is trophy sized as sized by Florida law. They must be unhooked while still in the water.
No. You can't remove them if they are over 40 inches. I know my rules and abide by them.
And the mouth grab would've been much more difficult with a 96'er.
Nice shot and nice fish