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General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: cryone5 on April 15, 2017, 01:17:51 PM

Title: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: cryone5 on April 15, 2017, 01:17:51 PM
Good day gentlemen. I recently loaded my Bossna Hammertron SW5000 with a 0.23mm diameter of braid. it was indicated in the reel's box that the capacity would be 0.285mm = 265m therefore 0.23mm line would get me about 392m of line, but I noticed as i nearly fill the spool, my line counts at only 300m (metered multi-colored braid) so i kept going and laid about 425m of line but it's bulky AF. I know this is a "sin" for most anglers but I figured since I'd only use it for bottom fishing and light deep jigging, and NOT casting, that I could overfill the spool with line since I will only open bail and let the line lose downward, and not cast.
Do i have the right idea?
Title: Re: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: reel man on April 15, 2017, 03:18:49 PM
Having your spool filled to the top is not a good idea.  The prob is when the line is running off the spool it may drag extra loops off the spool which may create tangles.  The other prob is winding it back on you're relying on the reel to lay it back on evenly, and that may not happen.

My suggestion is to leaved about 1/8" of lip on your spool.
Title: Re: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: foakes on April 15, 2017, 03:44:05 PM
ReelMan is exactly right, IMO --

On a Bossna, there is a beveled lip on the leading edge of the spool -- line should be 1/8" below this bevel when spooled right.

This will have the best chance at good line lay, and less tangles -- plus come off the spool smoothly.

You have just realized that the engineering department states one thing -- however, the marketing department states on the packaging whatever they think is useful to sell you their product -- taking into consideration competition, other models within the same line, future production, and sales goals.

Plus, line also varies.

It is like the pointy haired boss in the Dilbert cartoon strip.  Whatever it takes to make their product sell.  Does not have to relate to reality.

You are the one in charge of your reel -- so it should be spooled properly -- regardless what the specs state.

Nice reels for jigging and poppers.

Just my opinions...

Best,

Fred

Title: Re: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: Alto Mare on April 15, 2017, 04:17:46 PM
On most of my reels I like to keep it 1/4" down from the inner edge of the lip.

Sal
Title: Re: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: cryone5 on April 15, 2017, 05:47:12 PM
oh well, i'm gonna get a new budget ready for a new reel that I can fill the spool with at lease 400m line.
in the meantime, for my hammertron 5000 i'm going to cut it shorter even though it hurts xD

thanks guys!
Title: Re: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: foakes on April 15, 2017, 07:54:04 PM
We are approaching the day when the line will cost more than the reel...

??? ??? ??? ???

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: cryone5 on April 16, 2017, 12:44:43 AM
gah. so much for marketing stuff xD they always say their extra $$ cost is worth every penny.
Title: Re: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on April 16, 2017, 09:07:59 AM
The other thing you need to do when spooling braid is apply drag/tension. A good general amount of drag would be 10lbs. You will actually get more line on your reel if you do this ;)
Title: Re: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: Keta on April 16, 2017, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: foakes on April 15, 2017, 07:54:04 PM
We are approaching the day when the line will cost more than the reel...

??? ??? ??? ???

Best,

Fred

Unfortunately some reels are not lasting as long as the line too.
Title: Re: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: cryone5 on April 17, 2017, 10:00:19 AM
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on April 16, 2017, 09:07:59 AM
The other thing you need to do when spooling braid is apply drag/tension. A good general amount of drag would be 10lbs. You will actually get more line on your reel if you do this ;)

I did bro, it seems the reel winds the line onto the spool up and down too fast so it's not at 100% efficiency, but that would be ideal since normal usage will lay the line onto the spool that way

edit: I've cut the line down about 50m (ouch) but I still left it a bit overfilled (just a bit) in a manner that I am confident that I would not have a problem with :) should I encounter problem(s) I will cut it down on the spot :)
Title: Re: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: rippin_lips on April 17, 2017, 01:17:43 PM
if you have room, secure the end of your line to something sturdy and walk as far away as possible.  Set your drag somewhat light but still a small amount of pressure as you walk away.  Once you have walked away as far as you can, tighten your drag down and reel the line back on nice and tight.  You will be surprised how much tighter it will pack on and will probably fit on the spool.
Title: Re: Filling the Spool with too much line?
Post by: cryone5 on April 17, 2017, 01:59:39 PM
Quote from: rippin_lips on April 17, 2017, 01:17:43 PM
if you have room, secure the end of your line to something sturdy and walk as far away as possible.  Set your drag somewhat light but still a small amount of pressure as you walk away.  Once you have walked away as far as you can, tighten your drag down and reel the line back on nice and tight.  You will be surprised how much tighter it will pack on and will probably fit on the spool.

as I said, I did have tension on the line as i was reeling the line into the spool.

enough tension  to break my medium action casting rod tip :) which I was okay with since that rod was old and I only use it when spooling line onto my reels