Hi AT Family,
I stumbled on a stock 500 Jig with SUPER CLEAN plates and chrome rings for a bargain and pulled the trigger. They were perfect candidates to swap into my Jigmaster with a Newell Yellowfin Special kit. The sideplates I had on it worked great but looked worse for wear. I was really surprised just now nice the plates were when they came in, no evidence that the reel was ever fished. As much fun as it is to go all out with modern everything on a jigmaster build its nice to do a throwback build using oldschool parts from newell and a butterscotch power handle. Inside is a different story, all our new upgrades went in...SS Double dog bridge, Gen. 2 sleeve, yoke/eccentric jack, 5:1 gears and Bryan's drag kit.
Tip:A microfiber clothe + burnishing cream brings even more luster out of bakelite plates.
Aloha,
Kyle
Old beat-up plates going out
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In with the new
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Quote from: Yogi_fish808 on October 20, 2017, 08:10:22 AM
I was really surprised just now nice the plates were when they came in, no evidence that the reel was ever fished.
I think you could be right Kyle, the plates look unused. The Newell kit looks pretty tidy as well - a very nice classic reel.
Mike
Beautiful and Brutal! Great piece.
Very nice !
Love the finish you achieved on those plates - nice build :)
very nice Kyle thanks for posting. cheers don.
Kyle, nice piece. I love those handles and have built a couple of similar rigs. Unfortunately ole-skool Stren Gold is getting unobtanium which looks really cool with it. Those plates are sweet.
John
Excellent skills, Kyle --
Would you mind letting is know what burnishing cream you used?
Applied by hand with a microfiber cloth -- or polished with a buffer? -- or both?
In the old days (maybe 20-25 years ago) I upgraded hundreds of JM's with an Accurate half frame, power handle, upgraded drags from either Newell or Penn, upgraded spool. Many times I just installed Newell bars and stand in place of the stock stuff, along with an aluminum or Newell spool.
My personal favorite was a green Accurate frame, black stock sideplates, aluminum spool, Penn power crank, upgraded drags, Newell Delrin bearings -- an effective and economical combo spooled with 30 or 40.
Also used Carl's old funky brown delrin screw in bearings.
The Newell bars and stand would run about as much as an Accurate half frame -- so the frame was what I generally recommended.
As we enjoy and appreciate the fabulous plates and parts made by Tom & Ted & Alan -- these original sideplates sure look and perform perfectly with a good frame, bearings, handle, and greased CF upgrades.
I think that sometimes we tend to get carried away, and go overboard on some of our reels --
It is easy to invest $300 to $350 in a Jigmaster -- when all we really need is a nice donor reel, frame, power crank, greased CF's -- and we are good to go.
Randy has new Tib frames for around $65.
$100 to $125 total?
Plus, we don't need to be so concerned about boat rash on a $350 Jigmaster -- just fish 'em...
However, I really like the complete build-outs using all of the neat stuff we have available from guys like Tom, Alan, Ted, Lou, Randy, and others -- but everything has its place. Some get used -- some are destined for the shelf -- all personal preference -- and all good.
These are the reels that won the west.
Narrowed Squidders were popular also.
Beautiful work, Kyle!
Best,
Fred
Quote from: foakes on October 20, 2017, 02:09:36 PM
Excellent skills, Kyle --
Would you mind letting is know what burnishing cream you used?
Applied by hand with a microfiber cloth -- or polished with a buffer? -- or both?
In the old days (maybe 20-25 years ago) I upgraded hundreds of JM's with an Accurate half frame, power handle, upgraded drags from either Newell or Penn, upgraded spool. Many times I just installed Newell bars and stand in place of the stock stuff, along with an aluminum or Newell spool.
My personal favorite was a green Accurate frame, black stock sideplates, aluminum spool, Penn power crank, upgraded drags, Newell Delrin bearings -- an effective and economical combo spooled with 30 or 40.
Also used Carl's old funky brown delrin screw in bearings.
The Newell bars and stand would run about as much as an Accurate half frame -- so the frame was what I generally recommended.
As we enjoy and appreciate the fabulous plates and parts made by Tom & Ted & Alan -- these original sideplates sure look and perform perfectly with a good frame, bearings, handle, and greased CF upgrades.
I think that sometimes we tend to get carried away, and go overboard on some of our reels --
It is easy to invest $300 to $350 in a Jigmaster -- when all we really need is a nice donor reel, frame, power crank, greased CF's -- and we are good to go.
Randy has new Tib frames.
$100 to $125?
Plus, we don't need to be so concerned about boat rash on a $350 Jigmaster -- just fish 'em...
However, I really like the complete build-outs using all of the neat stuff we have available from guys like Tom, Alan, Ted, Lou, Randy, and others -- but everything has its place. Some get used -- some are destined for the shelf -- all personal preference -- and all good.
These are the reels that won the west.
Narrowed Squidders were popular also.
Beautiful work, Kyle!
Best,
Fred
I used Liberon burnishing cream, no particular reason other than it's what I had. Just applied to a microfiber cloth and rubbed into the bakelite by hand, a buffing wheel and compound/rouge probably would've been even better. Thanks for the compliment on my oldschool build Fred and everyone else!
Quote from: thorhammer on October 20, 2017, 01:59:06 PM
Unfortunately ole-skool Stren Gold is getting unobtanium which looks really cool with it.
John, Stren has replaced it with Catfish Orange. It's available in weights up to 50#'s. Berkley also makes ProSpec Chrome in Blaze Orange from 20 to 80#. Rudy
Very nice looking Jigmaster. 8)
Great shine! Love those butterscotch handles too.
Does anyone actually get improved casting with the brown newell "long cast" bushings? Polishing the spool shaft/penn bushings and lubing with tsi 321 seems to out perform the newell ones by a mile.
Super nice clean, slick, looking reel.
The only problem I see is you forgot to polish the brass on the back of the handle ;D
Keith
I put those bushings in my penn reels with the newell kits back in the day, I think they called them teflon. Couldn't tell for a fact that it improved casting but it seemed to.
Nice! An 80's throwback.
That looks so classy Kyle.
Great job.
Quote from: handi2 on October 21, 2017, 11:17:22 PM
Super nice clean, slick, looking reel.
The only problem I see is you forgot to polish the brass on the back of the handle ;D
Keith
Great...I'm on a trip thousands of miles away from my reels and can't polish that damn brass rivet.
Kyle did you use the micro fibre cloth & burnishing cream to polish the chrome as well, thanks for your replies, good stuff brother, cheers Don.
I get better results with Newell bushings over Penn. I haven't tried tsi in them yet.
Ron
Quote from: Donnyboat on October 22, 2017, 02:37:54 PM
Kyle did you use the micro fibre cloth & burnishing cream to polish the chrome as well, thanks for your replies, good stuff brother, cheers Don.
For chrome and final polishing most metals I use nev-r-dull. It's amazing at removing tarnish and oxidation.
Kyle,
That is one sweet reel, looks brand new!! Great job.
Brett
I posted pics of this reel on the Vintage Penn facebook page and got some interesting history on the origin on the wide "yellowfin special" kit. A gentleman named Steve Carson who fished with Carl dropped some knowledge that I was stoked to learn.
Steve-"Yellowfin Special", a little-used "wide" version of a Jigmaster. Conceived by the fertile mind of Carl Newell during his years of long-range fishing aboard the Qualifier 105 in the mid-late 70's. In those days, the live bait in San Diego was usually anchovies, and anything heavier than a Jigmaster made it difficult to get the fragile baits out far enough. This was also a couple of decades before the invention of SuperBraids AND fluorocarbon, so you had to use 30 pound monofilament to get a bite, and then not get spooled. For the often 75-100 pound yellowfin tuna at Alijos Rocks, a standard Jigmaser just didn't hold "quite" enough 30 pound mono to avoid getting spooled. Voila! Carl added another 100 yards of line without making the spool appreciably heavier. It was also common to change out the "fried" drag washers of the reel every night after dinner.
My fishing buddy who is also into vintage penns for shorecasting had me build an identical reel for him with a red knob 24-56 handle. Large bonefish/Oio cruise the near-shore sand flats during winter in Hawaii, with the possibility of an off season ulua. We're having a friendly "shoot out" between the 2 yellowfin jigs to see who can land the first good sized fish.
(https://i.imgur.com/Rhozmdj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/A2ENTPi.jpg)
Nice looking reels Kyle and thanks for sharing that information from Steve Carson, that was a nice treat.
Sal
Quote from: handi2 on October 21, 2017, 11:17:22 PM
Super nice clean, slick, looking reel.
The only problem I see is you forgot to polish the brass on the back of the handle ;D
Keith
There's always that one guy...that one guy... ;) ;D
Reminds me of a video I recently saw. A math teacher entered the classroom on the first day of class. After he wrote his name, he wrote out 5 math equations and one knowingly wrong. The class laughed and then when he spoke to the class, he said all of you noticed and acknowledged the one that was incorrect. What about the 4 others that were right? What is the moral of the story? Everyone will focus on what is wrong. That's life. Don't let that one thing get you down. Celebrate your successes and continue to endure, because it's not what you did wrong, but what you did right.
Keith, not harping on you. Just seems to relate to what I just saw and it was fresh in my memory.
But there is always that one guy... hahahahaha
Thanks for that Bryan. I have a management meeting today. Might bring that up. What's unemployment pay these days? Haha. Anyway human nature does have its quirks.
Beautiful reels. Wish I had hung on to mine. Certainly was a west coast thing and Newell kits were a big improvement
Quote from: Yogi_fish808 on December 27, 2017, 12:34:49 PM
I posted pics of this reel on the Vintage Penn facebook page and got some interesting history on the origin on the wide "yellowfin special" kit. A gentleman named Steve Carson who fished with Carl dropped some knowledge that I was stoked to learn.
Steve-"Yellowfin Special", a little-used "wide" version of a Jigmaster. Conceived by the fertile mind of Carl Newell during his years of long-range fishing aboard the Qualifier 105 in the mid-late 70's. In those days, the live bait in San Diego was usually anchovies, and anything heavier than a Jigmaster made it difficult to get the fragile baits out far enough. This was also a couple of decades before the invention of SuperBraids AND fluorocarbon, so you had to use 30 pound monofilament to get a bite, and then not get spooled. For the often 75-100 pound yellowfin tuna at Alijos Rocks, a standard Jigmaser just didn't hold "quite" enough 30 pound mono to avoid getting spooled. Voila! Carl added another 100 yards of line without making the spool appreciably heavier. It was also common to change out the "fried" drag washers of the reel every night after dinner.
My fishing buddy who is also into vintage penns for shorecasting had me build an identical reel for him with a red knob 24-56 handle. Large bonefish/Oio cruise the near-shore sand flats during winter in Hawaii, with the possibility of an off season ulua. We're having a friendly "shoot out" between the 2 yellowfin jigs to see who can land the first good sized fish.
(https://i.imgur.com/Rhozmdj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/A2ENTPi.jpg)
Those are amazing! :o Could you find out more from Steve Carson about the other versions? The Black Marlin more specifically? Thank you for sharing your reels and info!
Beautiful reels Kyle
Hard to imagine what Carl Newell would have created had he lived longer. Once he passed away there was nobody to replace his way of thinking
Quote from: Maxed Out on December 27, 2017, 07:22:24 PM
Beautiful reels Kyle
Hard to imagine what Carl Newell would have created had he lived longer. Once he passed away there was nobody to replace his way of thinking
If Carl had the technology we have available now and was still around the skies the limit.