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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: broadway on June 22, 2011, 02:34:33 AM

Title: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on June 22, 2011, 02:34:33 AM
Hey Crew,

         As most of you who frequent this sight know that I collect vintage Penn Senators.  Well, I stumbled across a 9/0 penn 115 from the sixties that's gonna fit perfectly in the collection... it has, as the title states, red side plates.  I haven't ever seen or heard of one, but I got one!  There is no question about it, and if I can figure out how to post photos on here I'll get 'em up.  If anyone has any info on, or has ever seen or heard of one please chime in.  I haven't gone through her yet, but will let yas know when I do.  I'm under the impression that this reel was a prototype of some kind or some one screwed up some where down the line.  Whatcha think crew?
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Alto Mare on June 22, 2011, 03:38:49 AM
Dom, I was tempted but somehow figured out that you had your sights set on it, so I pulled away. I did ask the seller a few questions about it; the left plate  appeared to be from the newer model 114H , I also asked him if the right side plate was shaved for the ring to fit, but couldn't really  tell from the pix. I have never seen or heard of a red 9/0. Whether a misprint on a 6/0 or not, I think you still have something very valuable. Congratulations bud, enjoy it. I'm also interested in finding out if anyone has ever seen or heard of one.
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Alto Mare on June 22, 2011, 04:32:37 AM
Dom, does this help?

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa364/Lissbannf2/479985920_o.jpg)

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa364/Lissbannf2/479985613_tp.jpg)
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on June 22, 2011, 03:39:01 PM
Sal,

       Thanks for posting the photos!  When I crack it open later I'll take some more photos.  It can't be a newer side plated 114H on the non-nandle side because the bearing is without the O-ring (old style).  A couple of other indicators that it's a 115 are the quad lugs for the harness and the handle nut is a -116.  Let ya know more later! 
PS- glad you didn't bid against me... it was pretty pricey already  :o
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: alantani on June 23, 2011, 09:16:05 AM
whoa!   incredible reel!  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on June 24, 2011, 06:30:24 AM
     Well, I cracked her open to find she is 100% authentic, and doubt she's ever been open... screw heads dead straight and I believe the lube (brownish) used is consistent with Penn lubrication for the time period and was only on movable parts (like Penn would do).  I have a bunch of photos, and would like to post 'em on this topic, but can't figure it out. The side plates haven't been filed down and the spool is a standard 9/0 spool.  This has got to be an extremely rare reel for no one to have heard or seen it before, especially on this site.  I looked at Orca's site, and just a couple of guys knew there were black side plated 114H's, so I couldn't imagine them knowing about this one... but I checked just in case (nothing).  I would love to know more about this reel if any one has a clue.... I believe this had to be a prototype :-\
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Bryan Young on June 24, 2011, 07:13:49 AM
What is the gear ratio?  It may be a Penn sponsored reel given to a fisherman to fish and provide comments.  Very nice score.
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on June 24, 2011, 11:09:58 PM
      I didn't count teeth, but was the exact same size as the 9/0 main gear and pinion... I suppose it was the same.  I did take photos of the whole innards, and would love to post them if I can... hmmm?
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Alto Mare on June 25, 2011, 10:37:07 AM
Dom, you might have a higher gear ratio on that reel. When you get it back together, put a mark on the edge of the spool and on the inner ring, also mark the location of the handle. Whyle turning the handle slowly to one revolution, count how many times the spool mark goes around until it meets the ring mark. Let me know if you wanted to make an easy $100  ;D ;D ;D....I'm serious!
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on June 25, 2011, 05:15:03 PM
Sal,
     If/when I do sell it... you're definitely #1 on the list, but I'm gonna hang onto her for now (for doting purposes;)... thanks for the fair offer, though.  I will check the gear ratio this weekend after I catch some stripers  ;)   I'd love to see this be one of the only high speed 115's out there!
Thanks again,
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Alto Mare on June 25, 2011, 05:34:11 PM
I don't blame you Dom. Even if I made you an offer you couldn't refuse, I wouldn't be able to take it from you. I think you scored big on that one and I'm happy for you. I just got back from BU orientation for my Daughter and  was thinking of stopping by and say hello, but somehow it always taks me over 10 hours to get back. I'm thinking trains or planes in the future. Take care bud.
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on June 28, 2011, 12:48:17 PM
Hey Sal,

      Did ya get the PM I sent the other day?  Also, the 9/0 is NOT a high speed... it's got 2.5 to 1 gear ratio.
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Alto Mare on June 28, 2011, 01:53:30 PM
Yes I did Dom, thank you! Looks like it has the stock gears......who cares! It's still unique and I'm very jealous. Later bud.
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Bryan Young on June 28, 2011, 02:06:57 PM
I'm sure Dom would be willing to sell it for the right price.
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: George4741 on June 28, 2011, 03:40:14 PM
Awesome reel.  I salivate every time I look at the pictures.  What a catch!
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on June 28, 2011, 05:54:58 PM
Thanks for the nice words about "Big Red".  I will be hanging on to her for a while, but Alan Tani members will always get first crack at any of my collection or gear in general.  Hey George, I know what your saying... I had to watch her like a hawk on ebay for 6 days, 8 hours, and 9 minutes  ;)
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Dominick on June 28, 2011, 06:24:57 PM
Hey Dom:  Did you figure out how to post pictures?  I want to see the reel. Sal's picture is ok but it is not THE reel.  I want to see pictures of Big Red.  Dominick
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Alto Mare on June 28, 2011, 06:41:38 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on June 28, 2011, 02:06:57 PM
I'm sure Dom would be willing to sell it for the right price.
I doubt it!
Quote from: Pescachaser on June 28, 2011, 06:24:57 PM
Hey Dom:  Did you figure out how to post pictures?  I want to see the reel. Sal's picture is ok but it is not THE reel.  I want to see pictures of Big Red.  Dominick
Dont we all! ;)
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Harry on June 29, 2011, 02:47:56 AM
Amazing !  Never heard of a red plated 9/0.......i too wanna see pics ..lol ...dunno how you can pull apart a reel and put it back but dont know how to post a pic  ....lol :D

great buy  mate! collectors item  4 sure ...congrats from Australia

oh  yea  ...i love that era of reels i forgot to say ( brass spool senators)
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on June 29, 2011, 03:15:54 AM
I will try my best tomorrow or at the latest on Thursday... I'm sorry it's taking so long, but Harry has it figured out and I've actually been fishin' ... 
...and Sal is 100% correct  ;)
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on July 06, 2011, 09:35:25 PM
Here ya go crew... sorry it took so long, but I'm a knuckle head when it comes to computers: http://s1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb428/316broadway/Penn%20115%20with%20Red%20Side%20Plates/

Enjoy the photos and let me know what ya think!
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Norcal Pescador on July 06, 2011, 10:06:54 PM
Quote from: broadway on July 06, 2011, 09:35:25 PM
Here ya go crew... sorry it took so long, but I'm a knuckle head ......
;D ;D Sorry, I couldn't resist editing.
QuoteEnjoy the photos and let me know what ya think!
Dom
Dom, that is VERY NICE! 8) 8)   You should be one proud papa. Of the reel, of the reel!!
Rob
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Dominick on July 06, 2011, 10:59:14 PM
Hey Dom:  Your Big Red is a honey.  Since it's in the neighborhood let's give it a neighborhood nickname.  Something like Dommy Red, Reel Red, or Killer Red.  I know Rob will come up with something.  Dominick
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Alto Mare on July 07, 2011, 12:48:47 AM
Yo Broadway, that reel looks like crap! Let me do you a favor and take it off your hands ;D ;D ;D.

Dom, that reel looks better than I thought, it is truly a treasure. Enjoy it, bud, Sal  ;)
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on July 08, 2011, 03:23:23 AM
Thanks Crew!  Hey Dominick, I'm sticking with Big Red, it makes me think of Ginger from Gilligan's Island  ;D
Hope you enjoyed the photos, it took me 2 hours to figure it out... I suck at this stuff!  :-\
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on July 08, 2011, 03:24:44 AM
Thanks Crew!  Hey Dominick, I'm sticking with Big Red, it makes me think of Ginger from Gilligan's Island  ;D
Hope you enjoyed the photos, it took me 2 hours to figure it out... I suck at this stuff!  :-\
Dom
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: Harry on July 10, 2011, 03:28:17 PM
Amazing, has anyone ever heard of a RED 9/0 115 befor? That reel looks like its never seen the water yet either.I think you should lend it out to everyone on here to have a fish with  ;D

Do you intend fishing with it ?   wonder if there are any more red 9/0 around .

nice score broadway
Title: Re: Penn 9/0 RED sideplates!!!
Post by: broadway on July 13, 2011, 02:10:49 AM
I assure you "Big Red" will NOT see the water while I own her.  When I got it, it looked like it had seen a little water, but was well taken care of with the exception of a good solid cleaning. She is in 9+ condition and 10 mechanically.  Thanks for the offer to lend it out, but I gotta pass... now the black plated 9/0's no problem  ;D
Dom