I started tinkering with a post 1990 Seaboy 185 and 190 before the kidney stone problems and finally got around to spooling them with 50# Spectra and testing the drag. I am getting 15#+ drag on both reels and I am not sure the 30-85 and 30-65 stand can handle this much drag. Is there a stronger stand that fits these reels? Any aftermarket stand fit the 185? I want to use these for mid depth Pacific halibut, 150'-300'.
30-185
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30-65
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the gears will likely hold up, but the top of the gear sleeve will round off first. 15 pounds is alot of pressure!
A base off a 220 or 322 Newell fits so I would image a base for a 146 or 100 penn would fit too. Aluminum Newell would be stronger but graphite one would be ok
Would a 112H stand fit the 190?
Can't think of a replacement for the 30-85 - you could always get a couple of 2mm thick spacer/adaptors to use a 501 stand and bars. http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=17297.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=17297.0)
Mike
Didn't try it but a base and bars from a 506 should fit a 185. Those bars would look pretty slick too
Quote from: alantani on December 17, 2017, 05:26:54 AM
the gears will likely hold up, but the top of the gear sleeve will round off first. 15 pounds is alot of pressure!
I put SS gearsleves in them.
A #30-66 clamping stand will fit the 190. Also...an old LB 60 clamping stand should fit the 185...but they are sorta hard to find. 8)
Quote from: mo65 on December 17, 2017, 02:10:02 PM
A #30-66 clamping stand will fit the 190. Also...an old LB 60 clamping stand should fit the 185...but they are sorta hard to find. 8)
I think I have a 30-66 in my used parts pile. The 185 will be the hard one to find and that's the preferred reel out of the 2.
Yes Mike a 112h stand fits a 190.
Merry Christmas
Basto
Thanks Basto, and Merry Christmas to you and everybody.
Mike
The 185 looks to be close to 99 width and I know I have a 30-99 somewhere. It looks like the 30-66 works on the 190. I will dig out a 112H stand and try it today.
The 30-99 stand has 6 screws.
The 185 is the same as the 60 I'm pretty sure. That's the pita that I haven't figured out.
Well there goes the 99 stand.
Quote from: Ron Jones on December 19, 2017, 03:58:03 AM
The 185 is the same as the 60 I'm pretty sure. That's the pita that I haven't figured out.
The 30-185 is slightly narrower than the 30-60. It is unusual for Penn to not use preexisting parts.
Lee, I'm a little confused (not hard to do) - I had a look at MysticParts listings and only found two 185 reels - the 'post 1990' 185 Seaboy which uses a 30-85 stand and a 29L-85 spool that also fits the 60, 85, 2/0 (spool only) and others. Like Mo said, the older 60 stand with clamps would be a stronger stand for this reel but you would be competing with the collectors if you found one.
The other 185 listed on Scott's is the "up to 1970's" 185 Baymaster that used a 30-180s stand which can be replaced with a 30-49 stand (same as 501, 506, 100, 146 etc) and it uses a 29L-100 spool (same as 100 & 146) This one sounds like the reel Sheridan showed us earlier with stippled side plates, that he had upgraded with a Newell stand.
Was there another 185 between the 'post 1990' Seaboy and the 'up to 1970's' Baymaster?
Mike
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The 185 I have is the post 1990 reel and is similar to the wider post 1990 190. The stand is wider than a 30-49. I do not want to drive 20 miles to "work" (electrical work this week in trade for access to sage rat shooting) today and I'll go to town and measure the stock 185 stand. One bad thing is I am packing up my shop and moving after 15 years and it is a worse mess than usual, but I have my used stand box on top. I hate moving!!!!!
This project started with a search for an aluminum spool for a friends grandsons trashed garage sale 60 ("Uncle" Lee can fix this for me) but is on hold now as he decided to follow his real uncle and join the army and is in boot camp. I was given a well used 190 to see if the spool would fit but it is way too wide. Then I bought a 185 and found that the spool did not fit a 60, but the reel intrigued me with Jigmaster size drag stack and a 3.5:1 gear ratio.
Thanks, that clears it up for me - good to hear you're moving into the new shop, it'll be worth the pain of moving all your stuff once you get settled in.
Mike
Quote from: mhc on December 19, 2017, 12:54:20 PM
Thanks, that clears it up for me - good to hear you're moving into the new shop, it'll be worth the pain of moving all your stuff once you get settled in.
Mike
No new shop, I am moving to a storage unit and my barn. The rent went up over $100 a month and the landlord came up with an unacceptable lease, including a $250 decurity deposit on top of the $300 one we paid years ago. He denied it and got huffy whem my wife produced the recipt so I told him good by. As of now 6 of the 10 units will be empty by the end of the year due to the new lease, lack of maintenance and the landlord being a jerk.
There is only .006" difference in width between the 30-60 and the 30-185, he 30-60 should work but still the weak one.
Quote from: Keta on December 19, 2017, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: mhc on December 19, 2017, 12:54:20 PM
Thanks, that clears it up for me - good to hear you're moving into the new shop, it'll be worth the pain of moving all your stuff once you get settled in.
Mike
No new shop, I am moving to a storage unit and my barn. The rent went up over $100 a month and the landlord came up with an unacceptable lease, including a $250 decurity deposit on top of the $300 one we paid years ago. He denied it and got huffy whem my wife produced the recipt so I told him good by. As of now 6 of the 10 units will be empty by the end of the year due to the new lease, lack of maintenance and the landlord being a jerk.
Landlords never learn. I managed a shopping center for a client. She always followed my advice and we never had a vacancy. We were also able to get market rate for the rent. Reasonableness is the key to good property management. Dominick
Quote from: Keta on December 19, 2017, 06:23:04 PM
There is only .006" difference in width between the 30-60 and the 30-185, he 30-60 should work but still the weak one.
Lee, PM your address and I'll send you a clamp seat for the 185.....no charge
Merry Christmas from the Ohana !!
Quote from: Maxed Out on December 20, 2017, 04:40:57 AM
Lee, PM your address and I'll send you a clamp seat for the 185.....no charge
Merry Christmas from the Ohana !!
I had a feeling Ted would come through on this! Merry Christmas guys! A souped up 185 Seaboy should be a fantastic reel! 8)
Thanks Ted, I got the stand this morning and the reel is now on a rod and ready to fish.
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Looks good.
Mike
Very nice Lee.....that's a one of a kind seaboy and if looks could kill you will fill the fish box in short order. Now I gotta get myself a seaboy. Thanks for the inspiration Lee
Ted
Quote from: Maxed Out on December 24, 2017, 04:16:04 AM
Very nice Lee.....that's a one of a kind seaboy and if looks could kill you will fill the fish box in short order. Now I gotta get myself a seaboy. Thanks for the inspiration Lee
Ted
You've probably already thought about it Ted, but maybe your machinist could make you a few Al stands for the 'post 1990' 185 that would also fit the longbeach 60, seaboy 85, delmar 285 and, if you add 3 extra holes for the different screw pattern, the 2/0 senator.
Mike