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General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: Scattergun2570 on December 30, 2017, 08:07:47 AM

Title: Bearings
Post by: Scattergun2570 on December 30, 2017, 08:07:47 AM
I was cruising fleabay and came across "FastEddy" bearing sets..rubber sealed..was thinking maybe I could replace the bearings in my CU-201 Bantam..anyway,anyone familiar with them? Are they junk?
Title: Re: Bearings
Post by: ReelClean on December 30, 2017, 10:46:56 AM
search for a post by Exp2000.  I think he tried them once and IIRC he wasn't that impressed.
cheers
Steve
Title: Re: Bearings
Post by: handi2 on December 30, 2017, 05:11:08 PM
Most he sells are not SS so be careful.
Title: Re: Bearings
Post by: philaroman on December 30, 2017, 05:19:49 PM
don't see an ABEC rating or place of manufacture -- probably junk...

check w/ this guy if his kit will fit your older model:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Shimano-Curado-Super-Tune-Kit-Stainless-Reel-Bearings-Carbon-Drags-K25/172861423226?hash=item283f57fe7a:g:OcUAAOSwA3dYaU21 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Shimano-Curado-Super-Tune-Kit-Stainless-Reel-Bearings-Carbon-Drags-K25/172861423226?hash=item283f57fe7a:g:OcUAAOSwA3dYaU21)

that's a fair price for 2 Smoothies & 4 Japanese ABEC-7's
Title: Re: Bearings
Post by: Scattergun2570 on December 30, 2017, 08:25:52 PM
Quote from: philaroman on December 30, 2017, 05:19:49 PM
don't see an ABEC rating or place of manufacture -- probably junk...

check w/ this guy if his kit will fit your older model:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Shimano-Curado-Super-Tune-Kit-Stainless-Reel-Bearings-Carbon-Drags-K25/172861423226?hash=item283f57fe7a:g:OcUAAOSwA3dYaU21 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Shimano-Curado-Super-Tune-Kit-Stainless-Reel-Bearings-Carbon-Drags-K25/172861423226?hash=item283f57fe7a:g:OcUAAOSwA3dYaU21)

that's a fair price for 2 Smoothies & 4 Japanese ABEC-7's

Correct me if I am wrong,but that link brought me to bearings that are not sealed right?
Title: Re: Bearings
Post by: oc1 on December 30, 2017, 08:47:30 PM
No ball bearings are completely sealed.  The shield just keeps out the large grit but water still gets inside.  When it comes to maintenance, open bearings have their advantages.  Fast Eddy sells chrome plated bearings that will not last.
-steve
Title: Re: Bearings
Post by: Scattergun2570 on December 30, 2017, 09:02:51 PM
Quote from: oc1 on December 30, 2017, 08:47:30 PM
No ball bearings are completely sealed.  The shield just keeps out the large grit but water still gets inside.  When it comes to maintenance, open bearings have their advantages.  Fast Eddy sells chrome plated bearings that will not last.
-steve
water gets in even with the rubber sealed ones?
Title: Re: Bearings
Post by: Alto Mare on December 30, 2017, 10:33:34 PM
On some you could actually remove the balls and clean them individually, but you need to do it carefully
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=1971.msg10129#msg10129
Title: Re: Bearings
Post by: ReelClean on December 30, 2017, 11:34:21 PM
Quote from: Scattergun2570 on December 30, 2017, 09:02:51 PM
Quote from: oc1 on December 30, 2017, 08:47:30 PM
No ball bearings are completely sealed.  The shield just keeps out the large grit but water still gets inside.  When it comes to maintenance, open bearings have their advantages.  Fast Eddy sells chrome plated bearings that will not last.
-steve
water gets in even with the rubber sealed ones?

Seals only keep the grease in and the dirt out (kinda).  Nothing keeps the water out whilst still allowing the shaft to spin freely.
Title: Re: Bearings
Post by: philaroman on December 30, 2017, 11:58:37 PM
furthermore, if it's better at keeping water out, it's better at keeping water in when it eventually gets through
it's a Catch 22!

from the ease of maintenance perspective, I really like the open bearings (or single-shielded w/ shields facing out, if sand is an issue)

Title: Re: Bearings
Post by: Swami805 on December 31, 2017, 01:07:43 AM
There's moisture in the air when they're build so there's some water in there unless they're built in a zero humidity environment. Not likely. A water molecule is a very interesting thing. They like to find other molecules and bind together, They form a very strong bond too.
Anyway open bearings are way easier cleaned and even with a rubber seal more water is likely to get in.