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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: tbucketford429460 on July 09, 2011, 07:49:52 PM

Title: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: tbucketford429460 on July 09, 2011, 07:49:52 PM
Heloo everyone needing a bushing for none handle side mysticparts wasnt able to help, heres a link to a picture.

http://www.sharksonthesand.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=697 (ftp://http://www.sharksonthesand.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=697)

thanks
wade

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Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: seaeagle2 on July 09, 2011, 07:58:02 PM
I can't help you with an answer, but I made your link to the picture so it will work.

http://www.sharksonthesand.com/cp/albums/userpics/10123/000_0037_28800x60029.jpg (http://www.sharksonthesand.com/cp/albums/userpics/10123/000_0037_28800x60029.jpg)
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: tbucketford429460 on July 09, 2011, 08:04:48 PM
thanks for the help.


wade
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: alantani on July 09, 2011, 11:49:01 PM
wade, the schematic shows a bearing.  i have some bushings similar to the one shown in the photo and i can send them out to you.  if i can get your address i will send one out.  odd, i did not know the 12/0 came with a bushing.  alan
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: Alto Mare on July 10, 2011, 12:26:04 AM
Alan, Where did you get those bushings? :o The 10/0 and 12/0 came with bushings, I think up to the mid  50's.
they also had the three piece spool and the left side plate had that  nice  marlin etching on it
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: tbucketford429460 on July 10, 2011, 01:03:21 AM
I think this is one of the old ones it has the marlin on the other side its in pretty good shape. From what I have seen and read the first ones had bushing. I saw a 10/0 on ebay  awhile ago that had the bushings.

wade
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: tbucketford429460 on July 10, 2011, 01:09:24 AM
Alan pm sent


Wade
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: alantani on July 10, 2011, 02:43:50 AM
i'll send you what i've got.  we'll see if it works!
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: tbucketford429460 on July 14, 2011, 10:59:13 PM
Alan got the part it was the same thread but the inside bushing diameter is too small, is it okay to send it back.

thanks
wade
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: Alto Mare on July 14, 2011, 11:26:58 PM
Hello wade, is that part stamped ? If so does it say 40-114 or 40-116, you need 40-116. You will have a hard time finding one today though :-\
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: Bryan Young on July 14, 2011, 11:45:36 PM
Is it possible to drill out the bushing to make it larger to fit your needs?
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: broadway on July 14, 2011, 11:51:32 PM
Wade,
     Go to a flea market or swap meet, buy the bushing there. Either, ask them if you can just buy the bushing from an old reel or buy the whole reel with the part you need.  Even if it costs you big bucks ($20+) buy it cause if you don't you'll have a worthless reel on your hands.  I've done this with an eccentric screw with no numbers (just says oil) for a 3/0.  Englishtown market in NJ had an old, POS, 3/0 non-numbered that I bought for $15... sometimes ya gotta suck it up, but at least my reel is ALL original now.  
Dom
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: Alto Mare on July 15, 2011, 12:21:40 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on July 14, 2011, 11:45:36 PM
Is it possible to drill out the bushing to make it larger to fit your needs?
That might not be a good idea, but I like the way you think Bryan ;)
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: Alto Mare on July 15, 2011, 12:41:24 AM
Quote from: broadway on July 14, 2011, 11:51:32 PM
Wade,
      Go to a flea market or swap meet, buy the bushing there. Either, ask them if you can just buy the bushing from an old reel or buy the whole reel with the part you need.  Even if it costs you big bucks ($20+) buy it cause if you don't you'll have a worthless reel on your hands.  I've done this with an eccentric screw with no numbers (just says oil) for a 3/0.  Englishtown market in NJ had an old, POS, 3/0 non-numbered that I bought for $15... sometimes ya gotta suck it up, but at least my reel is ALL original now. 
Dom
Dom, if you happen to go to that flea market and you spot these bushings, grab me a dozen. ;)
Quote from: tbucketford429460 on July 14, 2011, 10:59:13 PM
Alan got the part it was the same thread but the inside bushing diameter is too small, is it okay to send it back.
thanks
wade
Wade, I know that I have the part somewhere. It is unmarked. I took it off one of my vintage 10/0's because the finish was worn off. I'll look for it and let you know if I can find it. Sal
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: MetroFail on September 09, 2012, 09:38:34 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 10, 2011, 12:26:04 AM
Alan, Where did you get those bushings? :o The 10/0 and 12/0 came with bushings, I think up to the mid  50's.
they also had the three piece spool and the left side plate had that  nice  marlin etching on it

WOW dam, so my reel could be from the 1950s  :-\
here is a pic of the spool. it doesnt seem to be one piece, i also have a marlin etched side plate. please excuse the quality of the second pic.
im guessing im going to have quite a hard time with that bushing right side plate replacement, as you said in a previous thread Alto
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: Harry on September 10, 2012, 03:45:41 AM
Metro you need to take the line off to see if its a 3 piece spool, yea  id say 1950's with the etching on the sideplate,  look on ebay for that bushing  and eventually hopefully you can find one.  A 10/0 one will fit too i would say.
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: MetroFail on September 10, 2012, 06:43:14 AM
Hey Harry the line is off the spool and im pretty sure its the 3 piece spool (same at the one in an add for a 50's senator i saw), not clear from the photo. as it's a rebuild im busy with. the problem is i have that bushing but my side plate is broken and they dont make that kind of side plate anymore. sal said he would have a look when his new shipment of side plates arrives  :D. otherwise im pretty stuck as far as my rebuild goes  :(.
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: Alto Mare on September 10, 2012, 09:56:59 AM
No need to remove the line, the flange by the spool shaft reveals the secrete. These larger reels with bushings will always have the 3-piece spool, not the same  for the smaller brothers though.
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: Makule on September 10, 2012, 03:25:41 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on September 10, 2012, 09:56:59 AM
No need to remove the line, the flange by the spool shaft reveals the secrete. These larger reels with bushings will always have the 3-piece spool, not the same  for the smaller brothers though.

Yes, the flange is visible from the image, and it's the old 3-piece type.

I can ream the bushing for you as long as I know what the exact diameter of the shaft is (measured with a micrometer).  No micrometer?  No problem.  Give me the closest you can measure and I can send some sample bores to see which fits the best.  Then send back that one with the bushing and I'll cut it to the same size.  Alternatively, send the bushing and the spool.
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: alantani on September 11, 2012, 01:48:00 AM
talk to someone in a machine shop.  mill it down and let's get it right!
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: Makule on September 11, 2012, 02:33:44 AM
Quote from: alantani on September 11, 2012, 01:48:00 AM
talk to someone in a machine shop.  mill it down and let's get it right!

I have that machine shop to do the job correctly.
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: Harry on September 14, 2012, 12:03:56 AM
ohh   you need a sideplate!   Next time i go to the penn joint here in Aussie land i will ask and see if they have any of those vintage plates, i dont think so   but u never know. The ratchet sideplate with the etching  right?
Title: Re: need penn 12/0 bushing not bearing
Post by: MetroFail on September 14, 2012, 08:37:29 AM
Thanks Harry

Yeah the old handle side plate with the screw threads for a bushing. those things are like hens teeth.
if you coud look for one it would be much appreciated