Well...it started out that way...but quickly went up in price. Every good luck streak has to end. I guess I was due for a surprise. I snatched this 430ss for $35 shipped, and even though it was advertised "as is" I didn't flinch. I though it would be the usual broken bail spring, maybe it was stiff with dried out grease. It has some advanced boat rash but I just wanna fish the reel, and the fish don't care about bling.
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As soon as I turned the handle I cringed. The main gear was shredded! Nice...oh well...add 20 bucks to the cost.
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Like Billy Mays used to say, "but wait...there's more!" The drag knob is cracked. Choke up another 20 clams.
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Here are all the nuggets, ready to glue back together. The new main gear meshes with the pinion very well, and the bearing cleaned up smooth as silk. I really like that big Teflon drag washer, it should be hard to top for this application. Then I looked at the body...all that paint loss...it just looked alien surrounded by all those shiny parts.
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Another $10 later, the body looks a little better. Rustoleum Industrial Enamel in semi-gloss black sticks to reels pretty good. I shot some on the rotor too.
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I lubed the clock works with Superlube, it's clear, but if you zoom you'll see it. It's the first time I've used this grease, and I like it. Usually a new gear feels better with some use, I don't see how it could be any better than it is now. I used CorrosionX HD in the bearing, so it has a nice free feel when you spin the handle. I have to admit, I miss hearing the AR dog clicking, but I like the manual bail release.
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Hey now, she's dressed to kill. A little beyond my original plans. My $35 fisher morphed into an $85 investment. I'll be eatin' peanut butter this week...grinnin' like a chimp at this reel. 8)
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That turned out very nice mo ! I spray paint car parts almost daily, and if you don't have access to hvlp gun and automotive clear coat, autozone/advance/whatever auto parts have very good rattle can "wheel coating clear" that works great- you can also get it in matte..will make that finish very durable..
Too bad about the broken and worn out parts.
I found a 420SS in a box of old reels a customer gave me that just needed the petrified lube cleaned out. The box also had 2 Mitchel 300s and a 308 in good shape but in need of a cleaning and two old Pflueger knuckle busters in very good shape.
Sure looks good now! Thanks for the pictures and showing your determination in continuing your reel repair skills. Nothing ventured , nothing learned. Great job.
Quote from: mo65 on March 01, 2018, 06:56:13 AM
. My $35 fisher morphed into an $85 investment. I'll be eatin' peanut butter this week...
yeah but now you can add a fillet of catfish or LMB to that peanut butter ;)
really nice work there amigo, I need to do something similar to a abu 6600c I just got, reel feels solid, bearings could need a cleanup job but ir really needs to be repainted
Solid Work Mo!
You are a Master. ;)
Great skills, Mike!
You do what needs to be done, then some — and you do it right.
Best,
Fred
excellent operation on that patient Mo ;D
You gave it another 50 years of fishing until the next one...good job!
Sal
Quote from: gstours on March 01, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
Nothing ventured, nothing learned.
That is the quote of the day Gary, and perfectly sums things up. Thanks for the compliments everyone. I felt pretty good about the reel after I stood back and looked at it, but hearing it from the crew here on AT makes me sure it was worth the investment. Now where did I put that peanut butter.....;)
Nice restore, Mike, it should serve you well! I agree with Carl's tip. I learned a long time ago that some clear coat will eliminate paint finish thinning and wear. I don't repaint reels but if I do have a foot or leg that needs paint I add a clear coat for wear longevity. A lot of late '70s & '80s reels, before powder coating got so big, had clear coats.
Mike, great work. Let us know how the finish holds. I wish we had an economical, easy way to anodize spinfisher bodies.
Yes really good work Mike, thanks for showing, with many of the other comments, we have learnt a lot, thanks again, cheers Don.
I think it's worth it. "Reel" nice, as CT would say :)
Quote from: mizmo67 on March 01, 2018, 09:04:44 PM
I think it's worth it. "Reel" nice, as CT would say :)
I think it's worth it too Mo, and thank you for providing so many parts that complete so many "reely awesome" reels.
Thanks to Don, John, and Tommy too!
Mike, you did a great job on that reel, money well spent on parts.
I've been checking prices on the 420ss, 430ss, 714 and 716 series and they aren't cheap.
Other than the metal spool, how does the feel of your reel compare to the Shakespeare 2052? They are similar both size wise and internally, some difference in A/R and a few other changes. But the Penns are going for triple and quadruple the price of the Shakeys, even those in poor condition. There have been quite a few of the 2052 go from $15 to $35 recently.
Quote from: festus on March 02, 2018, 12:25:26 AM
Mike, you did a great job on that reel, money well spent on parts.
I've been checking prices on the 420ss, 430ss, 714 and 716 series and they aren't cheap.
Other than the metal spool, how does the feel of your reel compare to the Shakespeare 2052?
Thanks for the compliment Festus. Yes indeed, the prices of Penn's little guys are through the roof but what can a guy do? I guess as long as you don't spend over market value...you can always get your money back...folks are lined up waiting for these reels to hit the auction sites. On reels this size, I see no need for a metal spool. I can catch 1-5 pound fish for all eternity on a plastic spool. I've never seen a plastic spool fail on a reel this small. I guess if you spooled on some mono too tight you may bust one, but why would anyone wrap it on so tight? It ain't a tuna reel...it holds a hundred yds. of 8lb. mono...just wind it on finger tight. In comparison, if you were blindfolded, and had earplugs in so you couldn't hear the 2052's AR dog, I doubt you could tell which reel was which. The designs are just too similar
not to feel identical. The 2052 is a jewel waiting to be discovered. I think there are like a dozen of us in the world who love the reel. It deserves a bigger fan base. 8)
Quote from: mo65 on March 02, 2018, 12:57:19 AM
It ain't a tuna reel...it holds a hundred yds. of 8lb. mono...just wind it on finger tight.
I was curious about the line capacity of the 430SS . . . Mono 300/4 • 240/6 • 160/8
Tight Lines !
I recently purchased a 430ss, and I was surprised to find that the drag knob had a hole in the center of it where the spool shaft peaks out. I thought maybe it was missing a piece, as I briefly owned a 550ss once and I remember the drag knob not having an opening, but I see its the same in your pictures. Was the reel really built with a big opening where water can get in?
Mike: Nice restore on the 430SS only thing I would have done was put more grease in the gear box, but that's my A-R illness. ;D
Joe
They are adictive but worth the effort. Nice job. Still cheaper than any of the newer reels on the market place. I am interested in how the paint holds up. I just did a 710z in black but I used Brownell's Aluma-Hyde which is epoxy based.
That reel will still be fishing with your grandkids.
The paint looks great. Another saved reel.
Great job..!!
Quote from: Jenx on April 18, 2018, 07:58:49 PM
I recently purchased a 430ss, and I was surprised to find that the drag knob had a hole in the center of it where the spool shaft peaks out. I thought maybe it was missing a piece, as I briefly owned a 550ss once and I remember the drag knob not having an opening, but I see its the same in your pictures. Was the reel really built with a big opening where water can get in?
There is suposed to be a Silver pushbutton in the center of that "hole" . . . That is the release mechanism for the spool .
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Quote from: Reel 224 on April 18, 2018, 09:25:45 PM
Mike: Nice restore on the 430SS only thing I would have done was put more grease in the gear box, but that's my A-R illness. ;D
Joe
This is one of the joys of freshwater fishing Joe...no pesky salt protection needed! 8)
Quote from: mo65 on April 20, 2018, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 18, 2018, 09:25:45 PM
Mike: Nice restore on the 430SS only thing I would have done was put more grease in the gear box, but that's my A-R illness. ;D
Joe
This is one of the joys of freshwater fishing Joe...no pesky salt protection needed! 8)
Mike: That is absolutely true, I have fished fresh water for years had a boat and fished with my son. I fish salt water most of my life also. The difference as you said is the prep with the two steps.
Joe
Despite all the issues, it IS a nice reel, so enjoy it. All the work that got put into it--you'll remember it for a long time.
Frank
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 20, 2018, 03:32:05 PM
Mike: That is absolutely true, I have fished fresh water for years had a boat and fished with my son. I fish salt water most of my life also. The difference as you said is the prep with the two steps.
Joe
I recently serviced a DAM Quick 330 for the "other" Joe...hee hee...Decker that is. It was kinda fun, I took a brush and swabbed the whole insides with Penn blue, since he'll be fishing saltwater. I have a few of my own reels that I have also prepped for salt use...in the event I ever get lucky enough to make it back to a coast.
Quote from: happyhooker on April 20, 2018, 03:59:43 PM
Despite all the issues, it IS a nice reel, so enjoy it. All the work that got put into it--you'll remember it for a long time.
Frank
You're right Frank, it is one of the sweetest, most solid feeling reels I own. Thanks for the compliment, and thanks for all the others' kind words too.
It is only 12 hours away Mo. ;D
I was just there two weeks ago, and will be back two weeks from now. ;D
It is Exhilarating!
Whether I catch anything or not.
It is not from a lack of trying.
The Gulf is alive with everything.
Most people just sit in their chairs and read a book.
I'm scanning, checking out the sand bar situation.
Casting out some plugs when no one is in the water.
Watching the rays swim by, and planning my attack when they all leave at dusk.
Most of them see nothing, but what they want to.
I come for the excitement that they don't see right under their noses. ;)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on April 21, 2018, 05:54:58 AM
It is only 12 hours away Mo. ;D
Indeed buddy...indeed! My brother and I are going over to the Virginia Beach area in a few weeks. He has a few business meetings, but working around them we're going to do some pier fishing, maybe a head boat or two, just piddlin' around mostly. I told him I'd be happy to just feel the salt spray on my face...and sit down at one of those calabash seafood booffets...HA! ;D
Love the 430SS
My first spinning reel purchase many years ago. I've caught hundreds of trout,several large Cobia, saltwater cats galore, Redfish, Black Drum, and just about every small to medium size saltwater fish there is in Florida.
Rinsed and respected every trip. Put to the side for 10+ years and when attempting a re-spool I found a lot of corrosion on it. Can you strip the gold off of the spool and restore it?
nice restore, mo! love my inherited 420ss.