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Title: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: gstours on August 11, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
We were fishing for halibut's lately and caught an 80 pounder,  when we brought it aboard it puked 🤢 out this very scary looking party digested small fish.   Here's a look 👀 at it.   
    I think it's called a viperfish,  and generally only found in very deep unfishable water.   Butt?
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: gstours on August 11, 2018, 03:27:26 PM
Another, pik
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: Swami805 on August 11, 2018, 03:31:53 PM
That is a crazy looking fish. I think that patch under the eye lights up like a flash light. Thinking halibut aren't fussy eaters
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: Marcq on August 11, 2018, 03:52:32 PM
Uglyyyy!!

Marc..
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Post by: conchydong on August 11, 2018, 06:36:59 PM
As they say, there are no fences in the ocean. Deep water fish sometimes move shallower and shallower fish move deep all for food and/or spawning. Sometimes they meet up and one species will win.
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: Gfish on August 11, 2018, 06:50:49 PM
Cool!
Agree. The Butt probably went deep or the probable viperfish came shallow, or both. Huge eyes, giant toothy mouth, flashlight organs, probably no gas bladder, the only thing he's missin is onea those pole/lure dealies on his forehead. A serious deep-water fish.
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: Tightlines667 on August 11, 2018, 07:02:45 PM
Interesting.  

These are one of the more common of the widely distributed neobathic species found in mid to higher latirudes.  They have large gills and may occasionally migrate further towards the surface than many of their deepwater relatives (They have been found in Mahi mahi stomach contents).  I think this guy should have an elongated first dorsal ray that they use like a lure to attrack prey.  They may only eat once every 12days or so.  

John
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Post by: David Hall on August 11, 2018, 07:34:45 PM
Crazy looking fish for certain. 
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Post by: Maxed Out on August 11, 2018, 07:48:18 PM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on August 11, 2018, 07:02:45 PM

I think this guy should have an elongated first dorsal ray that they use like a lure to attrack prey.  

The little lure hanging off elongated dorsal fin obviously attracted the wrong fish and instead of catching his own snack, he became a snack :D  :D
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: gstours on August 12, 2018, 03:33:23 AM
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.  It was not in good condition when we discovered it .  Seems like it has a lantern that hangs over head and attract s prey.  Not sure how large they get butt this one was about 6inch.   Very specialized type of little bugger.🤦‍♀️🐟
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: TongassFisher on August 12, 2018, 04:27:11 AM
Wow!


Thanks for sharing, you are in Gustavus right? So was that in Icy Strait? 

Thanks for sharing I've never seen one before.


Trevor
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Post by: 1badf350 on August 12, 2018, 04:43:27 AM
That's interesting. Wonder if you should report that to fish and game dept
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Post by: 54bullseye on August 12, 2018, 01:33:07 PM
They would probably want to seize the 80 lb Halibuttttttt  for scientific research !!  John Taylor
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: gstours on August 12, 2018, 05:36:51 PM
Info Update:  ::)  After talking to a marine biologist about the fish in question and reviewing some photos is was decided that it was in the Stomiidae family of "Barbeled dradonfishes.     Thei most distinguishing feature is their mouth with long jaws and no mouth floor.  They can thrust their jaw far forward to impale prey on their fangs.   They also have a very tiny chin barbel that was decomposed and not in picture.
   The postorbital  (scull bone) behind the eye is charactisticlly elongated and triangular as you can see in the close up image of the head.  They also have this amazing dorsal fin (decomposed) ray that has a photophore on the end of it for attracting smaller fish to their business end.
   Thanks for the interest in this little fish.  All comments are welcome.   Anyway i,m gone fishing. ;)
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: Gfish on August 12, 2018, 06:10:41 PM
Thanks for alla info. A fish that specialized for no light/high pressure/ little prey avalibility conditions is fascinating.
Didn't notice the "post orbital elongation" thing though. Wait, dorsal to ventral elongation?
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: jurelometer on August 13, 2018, 05:02:30 AM
Quote from: gstours on August 12, 2018, 05:36:51 PM
Info Update:  ::)  After talking to a marine biologist about the fish in question and reviewing some photos is was decided that it was in the Stomiidae family of "Barbeled dradonfishes.     Thei most distinguishing feature is their mouth with long jaws and no mouth floor.  They can thrust their jaw far forward to impale prey on their fangs.   They also have a very tiny chin barbel that was decomposed and not in picture.
   The postorbital  (scull bone) behind the eye is charactisticlly elongated and triangular as you can see in the close up image of the head.  They also have this amazing dorsal fin (decomposed) ray that has a photophore on the end of it for attracting smaller fish to their business end.
   Thanks for the interest in this little fish.  All comments are welcome.   Anyway i,m gone fishing. ;)

The interwebs  says that the viperfish is in the Stomiidae family.   I think you nailed it the first time Gary.

Thanks for sharing.  That  was interesting.
 
-J
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Post by: steelfish on August 13, 2018, 04:48:45 PM
thanks for posting it Gary

sealife never fail in amazing us
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: Steve-O on August 13, 2018, 07:56:16 PM
Very cool, Gary!

How deep was the halibut you caught with that in it?

I'm wondering if that halibut didn't go out past Elfin Cove and drop off the shelf to snack on that little beastie.


Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: gstours on August 14, 2018, 03:33:32 PM
Thanks for the questions you all.  🚣‍♀️  We were fishing about 160 feet deep at the time.  We were inside Icy Straights.  About 6 miles inside from the actual Gulf.   
   This is the first one of these I've ever seen.🤦‍♀️    The thing may have wondered into shallow water butt should have turned his light 💡 off.   Now he,s got a dead battery 🙊
Title: Re: Unusual fish bycatch
Post by: Dominick on August 14, 2018, 07:23:40 PM
Quote from: gstours on August 14, 2018, 03:33:32 PM

   This is the first one of these I've ever seen.🤦‍♀️    The thing may have wondered into shallow water butt should have turned his light 💡 off.   Now he,s got a dead battery 🙊
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Dominick