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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Avet Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Board4life on August 31, 2011, 06:48:14 PM

Title: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Board4life on August 31, 2011, 06:48:14 PM
I was given this mxj to pretty up for a friend and noticed some wear on the frame. Anyone have any ideas on how this happens or how to avoid it from continuing?

Reel...
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/Board4life75/Fishing%20Gear/P8314239.jpg)

Damage on the reel...
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/Board4life75/Fishing%20Gear/P8314240.jpg)

(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/Board4life75/Fishing%20Gear/P8314242.jpg)


I was thinking, since it is on the crossbar in the back that it was wear from removing old line. Are these frames that sensitive?

Thanks
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Humboldtfisher on August 31, 2011, 06:55:06 PM
To me, it looks like your friend hooks his lures to the frame and over time this habit has scratched the cross bar.

Ross
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: alantani on August 31, 2011, 07:35:27 PM
agreed.  thin anodizing and gouges from hooks hanging on the crossbar. 
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Board4life on August 31, 2011, 07:54:11 PM
That was my first thought as well. The only problem is it is on the wrong side for that. It is the bottom bar closest to you when fishing and the marks are on the far side of the bar. He would have to wrap the line around the reel then hook his lure in order to get those marks on that side. Obviously it is something he is doing a lot but can't narrow it down. I might just have to aim my GoPro at him the entire fishing trip next time to see what he is doing...lol.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Rare on August 31, 2011, 11:56:35 PM
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Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: sinkerswim on September 01, 2011, 03:04:48 AM
Sure looks like something is banging the crossbar and dinging it. What that is? Your friend should be able to answer that.

As for the reelwrap. Would probably help to get a good price in the resale market. However, I bought my reels to fish them. If they get rash, or dings, so be it. Got some 20+ year old reels minor boat rash. Some reels are better anodized with thicker aluminum than others. Abuse will damage even the best though. Back to reelwrap seems like a whole lot of work that is needed to get some marginal protection and costly at that. Sure there are some guys who will like this product. Definitely not for me.

My wife once suggested we get plastic slipcovers. That was one suggestion, there haven't been many, I successfully struck down. Couches are meant to comfortably be sat on not admired. Just as reels are to be fished. To each his own.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: mackereljoe on September 01, 2011, 04:33:53 AM
Possibly mounted the reel upside down and reel backwards with a left hand?  That will make it fun in a wide open albacore bite.   
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: wallacewt on September 01, 2011, 04:53:42 AM
upside down,backwards,left hand
ow ya no dat joe?
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Board4life on September 01, 2011, 07:35:40 AM
I'm lost on this one. I'll just tell him to be more careful with his toys. I was just hoping someone had similar damage and knew the problem.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: wallacewt on September 01, 2011, 07:51:19 AM
on a more serious note get him to put a hook clip under his rod.(o/h reels)on top (spin) hanging your hooks off the line guides has the same effect and causes your line to break,esp; braid.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: redsetta on September 01, 2011, 09:32:17 PM
Adding to Wallace's post - if the rod doesn't already have a hook keeper, I usually just cable-tie a small split ring to the base of the rod (ie just above the fore-grip).
Cheers, Justin
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 02, 2011, 05:36:27 AM
There are couple things I do to help reduce boat rash. First get reel covers for your reels. After I mount my reels to rods and tie on whatever I want fish with on any given setup I replace the reel covers when I rack my rods. When I grab a rod to fish I take off the cover fish it, if I want to change setups I replace the reel cover and do the same to the next setup.

I go black when I buy Avets. Avet has always had a problem with whom does their anodisation, if you get a colored reels other black and silver (and sometimes even silver) you will notice that all reels do not match perfectly in color from batch to batch or say from a SX to a MX to a JX and so on. Even when we would get batch of reels into the shop I worked at most of the time reels that were meant to be the same color didn't match one another. Their anodisation is a bit lacking IMO but if you go with black reels this is the thickest anodisation, hardest to scratch and seems to always match from batch to batch and through their whole model range.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Irish Jigger on September 02, 2011, 08:54:28 AM
Quote from: sinkerswim on September 01, 2011, 03:04:48 AM
Sure looks like something is banging the crossbar and dinging it. What that is? Your friend should be able to answer that.
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Yes,Board4life, please ask your friend how this damaged occurred. I'm sure there are others like me who remain puzzled by these crossbar marks.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Board4life on September 02, 2011, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: Irish Jigger on September 02, 2011, 08:54:28 AM
Quote from: sinkerswim on September 01, 2011, 03:04:48 AM
Sure looks like something is banging the crossbar and dinging it. What that is? Your friend should be able to answer that.
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Yes,Board4life, please ask your friend how this damaged occurred. I'm sure there are others like me who remain puzzled by these crossbar marks.


That was the first thing I did when I seen the marks. He has no clue what caused them. Like I said... to me it looks like someone was removing the braid and pulled it off in that direction causing a groove in the frame.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: alantani on September 02, 2011, 03:32:35 PM
look at the groove on the far left.  there is now way that this groove was caused by the spectra.  nor the others, i suspect.

(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/Board4life75/Fishing%20Gear/P8314240.jpg)
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: sinkerswim on September 02, 2011, 03:35:31 PM
A real puzzler there. I guess what your friend is saying is that there were no marks on the crossbar. Then all of a sudden "poof" these marks appeared all at once. Strange, very strange indeed. I maintain this was caused by something external, not anodizing failure. Anyhow, it appears this isn't through the anodization, down to bare aluminum. So, other than it looking a little scratched, it should still function fine. And, the fishies don't know it's scratched ;)  
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Nessie Hunter on September 02, 2011, 03:41:19 PM
Yep, Hook Rubs....   

Ive seen many many LR boaters do that, some pull the line straight down Rod and under reel & hook (mostly deck hands)....   Convenient & it works.....

Better then having that 5/0 or Iron or trolling jig hooking you as you walk down the sides of boat!!!!!
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Board4life on September 02, 2011, 04:48:45 PM
Quote from: sinkerswim on September 02, 2011, 03:35:31 PM
A real puzzler there. I guess what your friend is saying is that there were no marks on the crossbar. Then all of a sudden "poof" these marks appeared all at once. Strange, very strange indeed. I maintain this was caused by something external, not anodizing failure. Anyhow, it appears this isn't through the anodization, down to bare aluminum. So, other than it looking a little scratched, it should still function fine. And, the fishies don't know it's scratched ;)  

he didn't even notice. I did then asked him what he was doing to get them. He had no clue. He is usually pretty nice to his gear as well.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Board4life on September 02, 2011, 04:59:45 PM
I know he doesn't troll with it so he wouldn't need to wrap the feathers around the reel then hook it. He only fly lines with it and sometimes throws an iron. I grabbed my iron and hooks and tried to line up every angle and it just doesn't seem to match. I am lost... Prob something as simple as him storing it in a bag with weights and one day they made contact on the way out.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Irish Jigger on September 02, 2011, 05:42:47 PM
Thank's Board4life for your reply. I am beginning to wonder if these marks were caused when recovering line with a swivel attached and the swivel being wound on to the reel. I am however inclined to agree with Nessie Hunter, hook rubs.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Board4life on September 02, 2011, 07:11:58 PM
And they don't appear to be scratches... like from the barb of a hook... they are dents... like being banged on.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: redsetta on September 02, 2011, 10:07:00 PM
QuoteI am beginning to wonder if these marks were caused when recovering line with a swivel attached and the swivel being wound on to the reel.
x2 on IJ's post - seems more and more likely.
Justin
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Board4life on September 02, 2011, 10:15:21 PM
Quote from: redsetta on September 02, 2011, 10:07:00 PM
QuoteI am beginning to wonder if these marks were caused when recovering line with a swivel attached and the swivel being wound on to the reel.
x2 on IJ's post - seems more and more likely.
Justin

Nope... lol. He ties his top shots on and never uses swivels on this reel. Only used for fly line and throwing the occasional taddy. No swivel for either setup. Plus all the swivels he does have wouldn't fit through the tip of any rods he has. What gets me is it isn't one blemish or two. It is a reoccurring thing and we can't figure it out.

Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Alto Mare on September 03, 2011, 12:01:40 AM
Line marker? :-\
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Board4life on September 03, 2011, 08:24:27 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on September 03, 2011, 12:01:40 AM
Line marker? :-\

I was thinking line marker but it looks like dents rather than wear. I am thinking it's something more simple than that. Maybe he had it stored next to another reel... or hard object... and they were making contact just right.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: alantani on September 04, 2011, 07:19:19 PM
someone should keep an eye on him when he fishes.  i'm certain it's something that he does and thinks nothing of it.  alan
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Board4life on September 04, 2011, 08:01:19 PM
Quote from: alantani on September 04, 2011, 07:19:19 PM
someone should keep an eye on him when he fishes.  i'm certain it's something that he does and thinks nothing of it.  alan

Will do... I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Brendan on September 10, 2011, 03:21:56 PM
Could it be truck rash instead of boat rash? I have seen people driving down the road with a pile of rods bashing together for miles with reels on with no protection of any kind. Just a thought, Brendan.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: striperstalker on October 18, 2011, 11:24:48 PM
It looks like truck rash or boat rash.I've seen it before, put in a rocket launcher or rod holder too close to a bigger reel and not enough space. in a good bite rushing , set next to big reel on top of it's handle, banging the bottom bar. Rods strapped together getting on and off boat, placed in the truck for the ride home.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: basto on May 04, 2012, 05:35:44 AM
does he use a long wire trace?
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: Squirmypug on May 04, 2012, 06:11:37 PM
Old post but..Looks like when using heavy jigs he put the hook in the rod hook keeper or top crossbar and let the jig hang lower and hit the bottom crossbar.
Title: Re: Avet frame wear question...
Post by: alantani on May 04, 2012, 08:08:34 PM
yeah, probably a barb from a hool that dug into the crossbar.