as the title says. Is there any point of using loctite on screws? I have seen many reels with loctite on the screws under the reel foot and other parts. Anyone use loctite? and if that is the case, where?
best regards, Thor
for me, no. i had a tube and threw it away.
Generally speaking, Alan's right.
However, I've done a few larger reels (50/80W Internationals etc) that are only used for trolling, rarely get a service and are a long way from assistance if something goes wrong (ie spend most of their time in the middle of the Indian Ocean).
In such cases, I'll use a low-grade Loctite product to give me peace of mind that parts like the ratchet plate and/or drag plate won't rattle loose over time.
Other than that, I never use it.
Righto, Justin
thanks for the replie.I will then throw away my loctite. I saw that JM reels had loctite on the screws for the dogs, that is why I wondered. I get your point thoughredsetta, but I fish halibut sometimes here in Norway and a tiagra 50 or bigger isn't actually the tools for the job...
when you change handles loctite seems to be the only answer to stop the nut unwinding.how do you folk do it?
i bear down on the nut or screw until it is vein popping tight. they will usually stay in place. alan
I generally use it on roller guides on my trolling rods
Lock tite is primary good for screws that are pron to coming loose in a reel. I dont personally use it.
Quote from: alantani on September 02, 2011, 03:46:14 AM
i bear down on the nut or screw until it is vein popping tight. they will usually stay in place. alan
Alan: you are a lightweight. When I bear down on a screw like that there is a cracking sound. Stainless are too brittle. It is easier to use loctite. I posted the story about my Penn International 50 vxw and Dawn's aluminum handle. I was using the reel for Tuna and Marlin in the Sea of Cortez out of Cabo San Lucas. The handle came loose and put the reel up for the day because it would not tighten. That evening I tried to find loctite and could not find it or a similar product anywhere. In desperation, I bought clear nail polish and tried that. The next day my pal Joe hooks into a nice Tuna and the handle came loose again. I got out the phillips head screw driver and tightened it with the fish on. Then Joe would give the handle a few turns and I would have to tighten it again. This was done all the while Joe ragged on me about my reel maintenance acumen. Well I was laughing and tightening at the same time. It was funny but I returned home and used loctite. I used it during the tournament and caught several Tuna. It worked flawlessly. Dominick
Old thread but worth adding to. There are different grades of threadlock. (Permanent, removable, press fit assist, sealing, etc) Just as you would match a reel to type and size of fish, you should use the proper product. Heck, you already do it for grease and oil.
Quote from: targetdrone on August 21, 2013, 06:46:46 AM
Old thread but worth adding to. There are different grades of threadlock. (Permanent, removable, press fit assist, sealing, etc) Just as you would match a reel to type and size of fish, you should use the proper product. Heck, you already do it for grease and oil.
I've never used the stuff before. Can you maybe explain the differences between the different grades? Does permament mean PERMAMENT, like in using araldite or something?. And the other ones?
/Karl
Heat will break it down so the screws can be removed.
For fishing reel use, and only for a few things, a small amount of Locktite 242 can be good.
I'm with Dominic on this issue. I've stripped far too many screws and bolts in my lifetime trying to keep them from coming off. A little removable Loctite takes care of the handle coming off at an inappropriate time, but can be removed if needed. I've never used the permanent Loctite, but have an application that I'm thinking of using it on, instead of the SS locking pins I've used in the past.
Take a look at
http://henkelontheroad.henkelna.com/LT-6540_AN_RemovableReliable_SS_v11_Final_Links.pdf (http://henkelontheroad.henkelna.com/LT-6540_AN_RemovableReliable_SS_v11_Final_Links.pdf) purple 222. It is low strength for small screws.
Quote from: hafnor on September 01, 2011, 01:43:34 PM
as the title says. Is there any point of using loctite on screws? I have seen many reels with loctite on the screws under the reel foot and other parts. Anyone use loctite? and if that is the case, where?
best regards, Thor
Sometimes it can be necessary to fixate screws with loctite. Especially on parts that receives a lot of vibration. I use it uniquely to fasten bails, on larger spinning reels.
I use the 242 blue locktite on Penn ss dogs. I also use it on handles. Bob
I also use the Blue, just for handles.
I use screw lock low strength (purple) for most things.
Rgds
Mark
I use the stuff all the time.
Certain replacement part screws for handles etc from Shimano come with a thick blue "paint" pre-applied for this purpose.
Anyone know what this stuff is?
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i noticed that blue stuff on penn's key 23A handle lock screw too. probably dried gooey glue ??? ??? ???
Quote from: exp2000 on March 24, 2014, 10:48:13 PM
I use the stuff all the time.
Certain replacement part screws for handles etc from Shimano come with a thick blue "paint" pre-applied for this purpose.
Anyone know what this stuff is?
~
It's Blue Loctite.
There is always a fine line between corrosion protection and something actually having to stay tight.
The general design of conventional reels other than their handles doesn't really need the stuff much.
For spinning reels, handles, line rollers, crosswind blocks, idle gears, worm pawls etc that are inside the body etc can benefit and the manufacturers use it as 99% of fishos will never open up their reels and want things to stay tight.
I think the real "reel tech" see so much corrosion on conventionals and so few spinners that you guys love grease. The manufacturers always have a "lower common maintenance acumen" and "problem solving ability" among their customers that they are striving to please and my guess is that things that stay tight are their priority.
tl;dr Loctite is cheaper than the problems associated with things coming loose inside the body.
That pre-appiled locking compound isn't blue loctite --it's a rubbery substance designed to work through several tighten/untighten cycles. Many bicycle components come with it, and I have had no luck finding out what it is.
Having said that, there are several places on a rel where loctite blue is perfect --it allows snugging the stupid flat-head slotted screws on the inside of a Squidder frame, for example --instead of attempting to reef on them :)
Loctite blue releases quite easily when you want it too, and will keep salt-water out of the threads.
Quote from: johndtuttle on March 25, 2014, 04:32:04 AM
Quote from: exp2000 on March 24, 2014, 10:48:13 PM
I use the stuff all the time.
Certain replacement part screws for handles etc from Shimano come with a thick blue "paint" pre-applied for this purpose.
Anyone know what this stuff is?
~
It's Blue Loctite.
There is always a fine line between corrosion protection and something actually having to stay tight.
The general design of conventional reels other than their handles doesn't really need the stuff much.
For spinning reels, handles, line rollers, crosswind blocks, idle gears, worm pawls etc that are inside the body etc can benefit and the manufacturers use it as 99% of fishos will never open up their reels and want things to stay tight.
I think the real "reel tech" see so much corrosion on conventionals and so few spinners that you guys love grease. The manufacturers always have a "lower common maintenance acumen" and "problem solving ability" among their customers that they are striving to please and my guess is that things that stay tight are their priority.
tl;dr Loctite is cheaper than the problems associated with things coming loose inside the body.
No Loctite for me. There is a better way to stop screws from coming loose on conventional reels - the Grower washer (the serrated version is the best). These washers are designed for high vibration environments and can be found in a lot of places. I had no problems with screws coming loose inside my spinners (if one breaks down severely I can get a replacement for obscenely low price).
Quote from: Eric Hensel on March 27, 2014, 09:35:02 PM
...and I have had no luck finding out what it is...
and when you do, please let us know. thanks much!
Quote from: Tile on March 29, 2014, 10:24:54 AM
No Loctite for me. There is a better way to stop screws from coming loose on conventional reels - the Grower washer (the serrated version is the best). These washers are designed for high vibration environments and can be found in a lot of places. I had no problems with screws coming loose inside my spinners (if one breaks down severely I can get a replacement for obscenely low price).
This won't be acceptable for the countersunk frame screws on the inside and outside of an old Penn, But it's certainly a good suggestion where aesthetics (or length of screw) isn't a consideration...
The screws on Senators don't come loose that easily. The Grower washers work best on reel stands (Penn Internationals, Shimano Tiagras and Avets).
Quote from: Tile on March 29, 2014, 10:24:54 AM
...the Grower washer (the serrated version is the best)...
or a split washer, but it's not for me.
Screws don't goes loose for fishing gear as much as my head trying to get them loose.
For fishing gear, I only use them for the roller tip of my rod, and some roller of ancient spinner.
I have found that Loctite is needed on the screws of the roller guides here in my part of Baja Sur. Our roads are rutted and after 30 minutes of washboard you could be very unhappy when you find your rod is missing some rollers.
Tortugo