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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Shimano => Topic started by: smnaguwa on September 02, 2011, 10:08:23 PM

Title: Old Shimano MLZ reel on the Kenai
Post by: smnaguwa on September 02, 2011, 10:08:23 PM
My daughter used the reel on the Kenai river spooled with 20# Fireline.  She hooked into a large King on a spinner, bank fishing.  At the initial drag setting the King took line easily, so a well meaning Alaskan next to her tightned the grag which then seized and the estimated 50# King broke off.  Shimano wouldn't tell me the type of grease I should use; would Cal's drag grease work?
Title: Re: Old Shimano MLZ reel on the Kenai
Post by: Bryan Young on September 03, 2011, 12:20:05 AM
That's odd that Shimano would not recommend their own drag grease...but then again, the reel probably does not have carbon fiber drag washers.  I would recommend changing the drag washers to carbon fiber then greasing with Cals' or Shimano.  I think Shimano drag grease is a little better for light-medium duty spinning reel appliation because it's thinner and lighter.  I havent' tried Cal's light drag grease yet.
Title: Re: Old Shimano MLZ reel on the Kenai
Post by: smnaguwa on September 05, 2011, 01:21:40 AM
The MLZ has an unusual drag. There is a large plastic(?) disk on the shaft that the spool rests on.  There are no drag washers.  The drag knob puts pressure on the top of the spool. 
Title: Re: Old Shimano MLZ reel on the Kenai
Post by: redsetta on September 05, 2011, 02:01:31 AM
Sample schematic here: http://www.reelschematic.com/schematics/Shimano/Shimano/SHIMANO%20MLZ-60(1981).pdf (http://www.reelschematic.com/schematics/Shimano/Shimano/SHIMANO%20MLZ-60(1981).pdf)
Full MLZ range here: http://reelschematic.com/schematics/shimano.php (http://reelschematic.com/schematics/shimano.php)
Two drag disks - one above and one below the spool.
The lower may be Teflon, which I wouldn't grease.
I find some older spinners are a bit jerky under load, no matter what you do (ie upgrade to carbon fiber and grease etc).
It may be the case here.
There may also have been a tiny bit of wear somewhere on the braid, compromising its integrity. A touch more drag may have been a touch too much...
Not sure if that's of any assistance, though!
Justin
Title: Re: Old Shimano MLZ reel on the Kenai
Post by: smnaguwa on September 07, 2011, 06:11:59 PM
Thanks for the info.